The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 6 Mar 1894, p. 10

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'l . I gray» I l mm"- will. mt "that 'lt' might re- , 'tth",',',',',','?,', "pitrtt,rg, s?t,tt, 1.. 'ea. , eve itself!" "'Wition lbplause) t e ov me. he vex-nun; _ - . "r'."" Now what we) the entire cost of the i'iiiirii.'. _ ed great increase: (tom 1ifi',i,i1,1jiijui'ii, ' , ct I tenance ot the Ontari " - ment, from the increased subs l y I y y. I. . o Agricultural Col ' tr N, lege, the management or which he id Dominion by the act of 1334. and a. Rh' LI , had been such a disappointment tenths, sources. In spite of this they w" I country ? He would take the period of live l tinually making additional inroads [' r Ei years, because during the last five years capital of the Province. He insisted t ti' , the department had been presided over by so. far from, the people Vat tho i cough; a Mining, and the public and the House 1 being satlatied with such a record and I . have a right to expect the improvement , the results attained. they had - 11 ' I l promised from this important departure. l to feel the Keenest disappointment, it,',', Mr. Clancy referred to the manner fil irg on the question ot railway certi eat , l which the Opposition had opposed the .p.' ' Mr. Clancy said the amounted , , '. 3; Dointment of a Minister of Agriculture. a un their "mum was it .41..» C ' A quoting the terms ot the resolution mov- l ot At-ttrural is?" Ed of. the ed on that occasion. The total amount "mm being "an. y wiped out, over one- i expended during these five years on my half remained to be paid. It could not be § count of the college was $469 077 apnor- contended that the i'tvvince was in a. l tioned as follows '.-Civil government ttu.- position to pay that amount now. Mr. I ' 222 . f r Pe . _ ". ' ' l Clancy rutepred to the statement ct the 1 I ' o r PM". etc., $35,000; for public , . , ' _ buMintts, 883,000 ', for salaries and waves Attorney -ue new] in. Bou'.h Ontario that $127,035; for other expenses $134 To f"); these railway securities drew no interest. Stock purchases $25 872 in thou other Yet the amount originally voted was some- hand there iiai's7iii' receipts which to. thing over $5,000,000. while it'wouid take tailed for the tive J.,' . . . "it; over $8.000.000 to pay it Instead of there eelm- ti't'it,tt?'e!,iettte,8,lt?,t/fe8,i of v " no interest on these securities. the "stock, tuition ces. fees for board, revenue ' * . " Melt t Mtl' x from the experimental dairy and the and it was unw- T " ' _ creanfery and from sundry small sources. General that It 'rto?sld at??? (0' MA - This meant. said Mr. Clancy. a lotus to the the people 'l,', so. i a ma Ctr. Pee, . , Province during the tive ycars of the applause.). The sum aroparttlt paid on great sum of $331,535, unless it could be railwuy aid certificates was $0,959,084, and shown that the results achlmcd Were in y'ct the amount actually paid was but', -an educational sense or otherwise in any $4,998,000, the explustatett being that there way commensurate with this expenditure. had been a rearrangement of eteete That this could be done Mr. ('lunpy blil- Yet allot a dollar hed been added cesL9,1tt Dhatloany denied. it would not be reuson- surplus by this. From ars P, a. - , .. able that such administration should timber sale ite announced" _ It " P, ' -Lf make ends meet. but It was t) be expect- tion ot the HOUSE The COM! " fr'"'. t /C4 N led there would be less disproportion than not the courage to my to the HOW". " [existed There was too much money (up money was needed, but that 130.331-} "r--','. pended on stock in comparison with the irter Was put up to we" 4,} , _ pvocceds from sales and in cmn- that the timber i'iiii,ii2it'itttlll parison with the very disappoint- idle to pretend that the Pd 'l% _ " lug results. In respect to salurils. simply by it desire to put 0"? Mi 0 there had been an increase from another form; the Government ante! thet $21.42;; for the year 1883 to 333.930 for WY,',. money. thoutzh they would not admit. it. Who number ot students had not in the The House should be 'it,'elltfif before tim- !meantime increased. The salaries paid at ber was sold, 85 Mr. Mere lth had moved. line college were higher than they should Moreover, a stock-taking should be he' be. Mr. Clancy quoted avorage salaries and the people shown what their _ 1,fa to teachch In ('ollolxiate Institutes were really worth. Both propositions hid int Brnntford. Brockville, Strathroy, Whit- been voted down by the Government. I": my, Woodstock, points in the constitutcn- Glamor then referred to the sale at fs, lcies of the ditrerent members of the Gov- and the charms made that this had been t 't'l'nment, and also at Guelph, and show- effected without snag valuation, and for iil u? that the average salary paid to the mere song handed ver to the ?J,i"r',?f',',,t,',1T jxnelnbers of the college staff was much for what they chose to pay. Nothing was, (higher than was paid in "uy of those more worthy of condemnation in the his-l 'plzucs. an ut1tlt'ti.Hf4ary cxtmvngnnce alto- tory of the Province. Mr. Sandtieid Mae-i luatllcr. M.. i'l-lncy proccttdt'd to argue donaid's four sales were to iii) .thLLt it was (villi-ill flonl the returns as vide for the debts he thought an. to the. iiitl'fidulll'l' of the students. from to the Dominion, and he did not spend a' the tact that students who went there for dollar of the proceeds upon the current one year cit-n did not go the second year. expenditure. and wry seldom Indeed went the third iMr. (Fancy thcln turned to the considera- . . iit t on o t 0 sum in. the Government view Hon. Mr. Itogs--That is right, run the the attention of business men. Formerly. Previnee down. tt,e,e',r"tThu','.d,T/i'c'se,'3" the 17,'i'i.'i"ri- in Mr. Clancy-i would like to ask, Mr. ' _ . ills expen. ture 0 to , k t . 7 " current year. but un er the preso-nt Gov- f/er/tirc,,','?,'),),,?:,"',,.:]':. times fgi,'i'2T,'. ernment there had been detreits tor four-t allow the Ministerial side ot the House teen of the 2'2 Scars, and in the whole to laugh at and ironically applaud his perindwtllc Government had spent nearly somewhat untoward remark. it??? r':).',',",-,'),'.": {incl} hill received of Mr. Clancy, resuming, said in suite or . . 9 '.t , an Ye t av claimed a . . "as s r to be thrown surplus. TN hat were the Deana to under- tutg,"1etps)2e,l', the "$231... was the stand by the Htatements made in the side of the House which could be 0epcmd- House by hon. gentlemen opposite '? They ed upon to show up the extravagance and l glaimed that a sum of over S:i.0l)').lL»0 had misgovernment of hon. gentlemen oppo-l ',1P. set aside to the C'l'edlt of the Pro- site. He claimed that An investigation In- l v.nce_ or u0urse nothing of the kind ind to the facts in connection with the Agrl- l been dono. TINY haul met cur- cultural Collegé showed that it was a ver- rent expenditure out of the liable sinkhole for the money ot the peo- fl." It, timber, instead ot keeping it to ple of the Province. (Opposition applause.) i i/Tilt/rid", :34":- 'dmll t'fJeitt? the cupi- Continuing, Mr. Clancy dwelt on the) . . C' ,am mu ey turned to large increase in the cost 0th gov§rltimt$t t'ie,t,f.1J'ut.!,'.."iytt.1: "Pd! "L":"Mt 111:1; it was l in Ontario since 1371. g t t at a e e . . ... is o'mcry s y or an as- ex enditure per head was $1 12 ; in 1881 " set, II! Would eventually be regarded bald risen to $1 34 per head, and in "in :2;1ro:t¥1:;1 ill: and; when it came unim- , 30:11:25? ti"i,iye,gbtp'tt1,?scrtteeatped. hands of the tl,'///1,tc,',nit,t,,, 111a")te,.e.t I ment expenditure per headlor educational rlovevnnurnt. The surplus was nothing ! Purposes was smaller in Ontario than m 'tl" '.) l'uulluby. which the 'rreasutvr tried any other Province. The Maritime Pro- b1"t.t,1,.ot'h,'t; t/y,.,t,ei,,t,iyete offspring of vinoes gave Go cents per head tor this our- a sur 'ill'," f,'.': iovt't llmcut. They found pose, while Ontario gave but eighteen ',rl0lrd',"t1.sr,11, hen the) assumed the Gov- cents per head. In many other ways the sum of ', 'illt they had spent that and a i other Provinces relieved the Bimini}; has Tel-,,';,',',')')',',?,'),';," J,'"/Tt'vn", r,')'",,"?,::, It cipaiities of various burdens who 113' . . ', C. J' ca y l e name of I they . had to bear in Ontario. 1i1'yse,1,te'i"a1:. inch was inning hut an l He would like to know what became ot Tillt'erlgf 0". .1 count 'r'tweom the Pro- l the money taken in such enormous sums Minimise) 113,30 Jd? Quebec. (Opposition from the 1)cop13.d-Now in regirliimto in; could "ct be 1,/ljll/iot"""l),"Ti',r'an, uppoigite money expen e on ace :01in . . .,, _ 3 1,303 t 1eir Public and Separate Schools. The per f,"),')),'..""), (323321: themsolvcas before the capita expenditure in 1873 wnsdlz cents.u In come from a ol,il"/a"i'cyof'0,,ti,s; could only 1883, in spite of the increase pawn on, from n. . U,', . 'CT , ' d pplause etc., the per capita expenditure had de- lion v).rr,.l1'i3,htl'ii,1 1n ninth.) A general elec- '-creused to 12 1-2 centsJand in was the per t:lared "tlil'),',',',?,?,)',',',, am 'c1t Governmettt.dis. gcapita expenditure for the purpose of prim- try on the '85: ff")? to tro to the coun- E 'ary education was only 11 1-2 cents. it policy. Thev of thito of their tittataetat l lwas a remarkable and astonishing com- Noted the 'lkiiidiii,re' pposllion gladly 'IC- I mentary on the course or the Government 1 was uonfident that in?" he. hoped and l that with its-enormous expenditure this placed in the hands of it him" would he was all it could do to aid the overburdened ' courage and honesty done Who had the ltt).umitipa11ies' In the important matter the course of the '0lJAul'iott.'2".tr "gains: (or' primary educatwn. (Opposition ap- \ Ora at the country would Jlliyi"t'i/t'"ii,t: Manse. ks. trammelle - ='tr F 7 - Mr. Clancy then turned to the great and where thgy 'r,'dcetet. and would show increasing revenue from the Crown Lands tion applause) ebnddenee. (0990M iDepartment by its timber sales. tirat de- . _ - l nouncins emphatically such "leaks being V 'e ..

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