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' -- ' ' '. s "m _ -. 3",: . ' . - _'.' paid-by Btf,tfidt2lS.te.'Pr,,g'.", on g ve li , ' _ , . tcilat't l the side of the to. . temp on was 'a a.» ' I , - ., sGEf2ikTs evidence that the page. use better new . ' '~ . - -. Iiltirim s', "a; ' -'", 1 ed under the in system. It wu only to I my 4ttt the on. . i. 7l"l'llir, r ' ' ' K. i talk at random on the subject. The hom F ttn had adorned this some one?" 'hleh ' lxentieman had referred to the feeling in . c'tLRett which the Opposition brim tlt the. l *the country on the subject on the ocoau- ward were acute; Were tor the 8int tor- T ., ion of hits former motion. and rt,,hce, most important cases on Lr/le/f hut! blamed him for speaking or the ex- (The surplus, the biennial session Gavan". l ' tttrtrerutions of newspapers. Well, there merit House,and now the fee not?!" I ' wore. sunh exv.tr.eratiottm It was a hnblt Crt?, had its turn ot being osoiutlfi; :1 I y 1 among tho Opposition newspapers at the _ sential to P.t welfare of the country. Win _ l r. I time to publish the gross receipts-l of the "f" Mr, W hitney Working up his lmagina; F l different otlluen no the salaries of the hth P.on ? Was he aussolutel.y certain of the . hrs of these ottlces. taking no note at _ need of the than" 't The Opposition Was _ all of the disbursements. Of course the terribly ("will of amendments l they seem- ' figures purporting to be the 'nt'omes Were ed to think it was very wrong for the _ such as could not bo defended. Tte hon. Government to do such things. He would 1 l gentleman hnd state-:1 a. number ot facts, tell his fricttdg opposite that they on the I find ho had hllnsell statcd other facts. timernmcnt side would move all the am- I'he public were in possession of most of cndmcnls they chose. They were perfect- the facts "the case. ly within their parliamentary rights in Mr. Meredith-Has the commission been doing so, and he could not see why they 1ieyy"t yet? should not use their Parliamentary priv- ' The Attorneyr-fJeneral--Not yet. but we ileges. What a bloodthirsty gladiator his l hole to lmVe the row." before the Kott- lhis friend across the iioor was in his de- i icrnl elections. and tioosibly before the sir., to tight the question out squarely. , ) House clones. The Aittorney-Generul then jiicw determined he was on settling thel ', rct'crrcd to a. sintemont by Mr. Wood 'question then and there. Mr. Whitney'; . that the County Crown Attorney of Hunt llsserted that the fee system was unbusi-l inks had tttwh. excessive churn-{us for Work nesylike. Did he not belong to a profes- l in connection with Us oilice. The charge. sion that was paid by tees ? Were not mild Sir Oliver. was in uccordunce with jdoctors 'puid by tees? Were not l _ _ the litutute, mud n it excessive. lie cor- many businessmen paid by commissions ? lrected the previous speaker on unotln-r 'Wns not piece-work a fee system ? It point where he had erred in stating the was just that the man who used the ,rcoo-ipts of 'ttt oftlcv, nnd closed by tray- lollice should pay for its maintenance,' i ins: he would not follow him into the many "other than that the taxpayer who used , otlher sttueruents he had made, and which the ottice only three or four times in his , really hud no special bearing on the case. lit1. should pay taxes for It. The few who _ He wanted. however. to say delinltcly do USc the othie should pay for it; not the I that the Pun-ornmi-nt was not tidying that multitude who do not. As for the elec- these salaries could not be reasonably rt'- tive system, uMr. Whitney had spoken of duced. That "219 " mnttcr of opinion. 'the present incumbents as pensioners. He . All that 1 do say. said Sir Uliver. is that must settle for that offensive phrase with the fee system is the best unitem tor the man) respectable citizens whom he the public. the course that. secures the bud thus insulted. Would the poor man most ett'cicnt work, nil-l the course that be elected, as Mr. Whitney fancied '.' All is most economical. its experience shows. know the turmoil and labor of a public'. So for from saving the Province unyihinc elm-lion ; what chance would the . poor like Bottom, its the hon. gentleman says, nun have in one? The curse of the if We Wt'tt' to adopt the system which he l,ward-heeler would be brought in by the advocates it would be a very heavy 'systcul proposed. How many elected oth- chnrg-e upon the treasmry from that time. ciais have tied from the United States in (Ministerial applause.) the last few ycars l' They were elected; Mr. Whitney rose to reply, but they paid the price; they repaid them- lt Doing within a few minutes of 6 St'th'S, and they tied. The adoption of that o'clock, the Speaker left the chair. system would prepare the way for an in- 7 :undution of elective ottFials. Police Mag- AF'TER RECESS iistratcs and County Judges would be clcct- Mr. Whitney resumed the debate when ou. He warned the Opposition against the Speaker resumed the chair. He began the fa.tyous course in which they were b . 2. reference to the serious consideration embarking of adopting a policy of Ameri- l lee-tied by the subject. it was no no" canizlng Canadian institutions. He hoped ctter, Ten or tsxelve years betore Mr. the time would never come when a Judge glen-duh introduced a resolution providing elected by corrupt methods would try of- tor the election or Registrars. He was fenders, and a County Crown Attorney surprised I" the anger with which the have to prosecute the ward-heelet. who had Attorney-General had received the manner helped him to office. of bringing the mutter up. Mr. Mcredith Mr. Whitney-They do it now. . and Mr. Wood had brought the matter up Hon. Mr. Ross-Specify the charge. It by resolution. and bud been met by amend- " is a gross accusation. merits. There had been due warning given Mr. Whitney-d will when I am ready. by Mr. Meredith in his speech on the reply Hon. Mr. Ross. continuing, said that to the speech from the throne, and they such a course would degrade Ontario from ' had a right to put the matter in a formi her present proud position of pro-eminence d winch required it square vote. Mr. Whit- in impartiality of Judicial tribunals. It _ hey then argued strongly for the abolition war. paving the way for communism and of the foe system, and the, elcction of otii- socialism that would sweep away the ciuls. The feeling was growing throughout bulwarks ot the courts. The present sys- l the country. and the Gchrulncnt of Untur- tent was not unsatisfactory. How many ' lo must take notice of it. Why should 'wpoirlted_otlicials were untrue to their oilicers whose duties were mechanical re- trust I' Only vague hints could be got cetve payment by fees ? Why should a from the Opposition. He challenged the man get more who registers 500 deeds than Opposition to prove incapahillty on the J who registers 3,000 deeds l' The work part of Ontario Government otncittls. Then, does not demand great intelligence. As a the amendment introduced was vague. It ' proof, the Deputy Registrars of the Pro- did not declare either for popular clot-tion Vince are a capable. Well-informed set of or for municipal appointment. As for the men, and yet nut one of them m the rural latter, without assailing Municipal Coun- districts receives a salary that would in- cils, he would pofut out that in twenty dicate that he is a mun of grout executive years only $15,t09 have been lost through ability. Often Itregistrarships have been appointed oftic'ials, while $373,000 have been vacant for years, with the deputy giving I?" by otthtials appointed by Municipal lpert'cntly satistaotory scrvice. He thought Councils. A Government that has done ltho rural population was now intelligent '50 well should not have its pchr of ap- l enough to be entrusted with the choosing pointinent taken away from it and given to iof the ofhcia.lg. They would know who nus the municipalities. As for unseemly Strife; _ deserving, who needed such it position. and what sort of strife would there liCrt be for l would appoint dun-rvlng men at salaries an ottwe worth $2,000 Ot' $3,m0 a YORK". that (ct son, 3600 or $700, as the case might be. was oven to election ? The gentlemen i There would br. no more of the unscemly opposite made no suggestion to elect post- , strife for positions which is now so pain- masters, custom house ottieera, inspectors liuily apparent. Mr. Whltrcey then assailed of Weights and measures, or exeiso oft. the appointment of the commission in vig- cers. Phat would reduce Dominion rd - orous terms. charging that the Attorney- ronage. Their shield had two sides. He l General. "tho crane-st constitutional law- I objected to the amendment, because it was lyer of civilization," and his six "satel- untrue in saying that the system is un- [ lites" Were unable to decide the knotty satisfactory, and because it was artful lpolnt. and had to appoint a commission. in not declaring what it really favored. jag in the case of the 'lohornitw,' or cattle. There wa'a mueh Whistling to keep their IT.his commission was to deal with all for- courage up on the part ot the Opposition, l eign countries, and yet was to have its rr- but the Government would go to the counv , 'ort ready lit-fore the end of the session. try, appealing not to class, creed or sec- l, EHe. was tempted to ark if the report wuss tion, but to the business sense, to the! l not in typr'. Who would be on the commis- c'oruwienoe, and to the intelligence ot the I sion? Would the pogr, despised. down-, country. (Cheers.) . trodden. persecuted farmcr Minister hc one MR. MEREDITH. ot the commissioners , Or would the memhers be scme of those who by some Mr. Meredith replied to Mr. Ross. He unwritten law are the pcnslonors of on- _ defended the manner in which the mnend- , trwio ? They might not not a fair answer _ ment had been brought forward by the to the question there, but they would ap- Opposition. It was quite parliamentary peat with full "ontirientte to the people. and not an innovation in the Legislature. l . , He denied that the Opposition were tseek. l 'I-i--------,.-,.-,.,