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I . R» ' tf - 'ae > _ . -- T)iLCtiuca'1t eil-N-lip"' 'M 'fofnbutm' . JE. . cc . we .3. )'.'t'iii!!ltllltllllRiii,ii',i a: "dr' ...., " Mt = .2: tttsttrttoet, a w a - Io " w _ ~ - K.d .. ' - lees tor the. Mr. but». om to ttOtt- an to vote. i"iairg riSPi'tt "W lit" ' tinue," he took hm seat." of gnyon' Whether "When. The Attorney-General in n minute ox- "in"... or enemy Tuna)" emptotei, chanted " word or two with tum, and why Roman Catlin" ere was no rea'son then announced tint the Commissioner anxious than others to. lhould be less was anxious the debate should proceed would not say that mo" ttlt,',,", Privuette. He without any further remark by hlmeel habit ot coercin thatc erBy were inthe MR. CLANCY'S SPEECH. (i would any that simian: ttpei,, if." he Mr. Clancy, on rising to speak. that ex- other similar position would be tll: pressed his sincere regret tor the uniortu-' to exercise a certain influence it thee late circumstance, wait-ti had obliged Mn. wished to do 30 ; and he thought it w '1') Fraser to cease speaking. However, he l "3;th all: 'tei'.',.",',':, this spot-193 or "new l must any that he dissented truth the C on, w et er by word or loo . " tground that the hon. gentleman had he thought an answer to that Jtle.c,y l mks:- oft,/,',c'ltvav,1, '1tUawr,,,""h"i',: J'Le?Jerattt ct,t,t/e"t1t,iot,i deyiruit "' . l ' .. right for himself. He would say at the Bchoois Mr. Clancy declarede tired??? outset than: he personally had no objection founded. The ballot would not 1m;l I to the ballot. He believed that the open their usefulness. and there was no ct],- vote was the more manly kind. but, on the ticlentious obJectlon to the. prinmvk. 'li other hand, would say that it the ltomitn Becret voting ; no one could urge that he Catholics or the Province were willing to gout"! be kept from the polls becauso 'l; accept the ballot he would have no ob- . pr. I'onmee had druggpd in al Br', , Jictiott. To him it was nut a question at- animosities he could, and had all: l",', tocting any man's religion ; if it did it make out that the Conservatives Ware .3, would be the duty of every mun. Roman posed to the Separati- Schools M... V": '1), Catholic and Protestant alike. to oppose to force tho ballot upon Roman (ionising, any act of the Legislatule which would in- ig'rhttlps three-fourths of the mci,i'iis",",'r tertcre with the rights of any sect or re- t e luuno Wt'rt' opposed to 5.." , . liglun whatever in the country. Mr. Con. Schools. and nearly all of the i';1:l'n::. mee had delivered " speech which had He ventured to any that the Attorney- bccn very profuse. in which lie had ex- :Gt'nerul himself would not (establish seiJ-' hausstively proved that tilt itomun uutho- ' arate Schools to-day if he had the " C.. . lies were loyal. Had the Roman Catholics l With such a feeling on his own gidzwnfi of the country conic to this. that the hon. ', the House it was clap-trap in try to as- gentleman must apoiogtae for them and , sail the Coitservatives as opposed to Sep- assert their ioyttity '.' He disdained to I urine Schools, and it was done for some- discuss their loyalty. und did not know icnd. Though the majority of the House I why they should be singled out tor de, i and likely or the people ot Ontario. were ' fence or apology. Mr. Conmee offered a. ' opposed to Separate schools. however, he gratuitous insult to the Human Catholics [thought that they would l'csllei". their in trying to defend them trom a chili-gi- ,righis and would deal justly by thom. which no one that tne speaker knew of The que>tion wasauithrus't one, and great ,hgi,Tuti.t,u1t,h" tQ,1sulrueen,i,.tug?"ui' le.:',:'.,,",,",,?,'"')":"' L",',"",?, "W tne man who q a " u s e f e l eurugsei t; ttt ie thouaht ll ' nothing but contempt. if Mr. Hammet- Government Wete the ones liiio set'.',,',.',',? wanted an optional ballot why did he drug sponslule. Who had excited the feelings of in the nnimosities and hateful thing: oi the minority. who told them that they the past '.' He could see no harm in were attacked, and who said that In... mu- Roman Catholics going to the polls and tiou to give them the ballot was made casting their ballots, in their voting in ac" with hidden motives. The ltomun Catho. cordance with ll principle which had been but were honestly alarmed. not becuuse " 1ontr in Practice in the Province. and to anything was in blghl. but lit-cause they which no man could be found to object. mu. told that the "ottsirvatives Wert . There was talk of its being forced upon trying to destroy Separate Schools. . them. and the House had been told that Hon. Mr. Hritxet. -iVhut would ".5. hon. bixots were in favor of it. No wane mini iriend any to the platform or the Orange . would, even If bigots ulco asserted ll. ' fir-tum Lodge ? Does he contend that the deny tApt two and two make four: 'rrange body is not in favor or the aboli- no man 3 course should e, chan zed be» lion of Separate schools ? Does he not cause bigots ulso held it. i'he contention admit that the tnutttbcrs ot the (grunge that the ballot should be rciccted by :body arts nearly all Consvrsutives ? Will Roman Catholic" because it is given them I he soy the i'. P, A. is not intendin,ur to with ulterior objects Mr. Clan 3y regarded ; ubciish Swot-Ate Schools l' is it DU. 151.": "9 Pf-ttrt":?. ttnd lame. for: idle to any that there is no Set-non of Hon. Mr. Fraser-My view or the ballot the community against Sepulute tscmoolc ? cannot be disposed ot till after my mm" Mr. Clancy said that he knew nothing on the c,0yf"el:'fyy.1 point involved "rc. of the Unit ge body ; he believed that once ':,e,r,'t'f,',1ina1, am tgorry to interrupt the hon. the Liberals laid down it platiorni of op- I ' I. _ S.-z..; t'sc :. - . - Mr. Clancy. continuing. asked if the Pro. 53:21:: 52:":3 if, 22:31:12? and Mr Fra icstants were in a minority ",1 the, 'Tr Hon. Mr. Fraser-l was but a lad going Vittce. and if the Roman Chtthoiie minority. to School then. Surely my iton. friend Were to ask the Protestant minority to ac- will not mm that l was m the Liberal cept the ballot, would that minority resist l ttarty at ("it iiiiii. . . - it , It the tr."yt1te.t minority were tin- Mr. Clout-v said he was not liscussmr 1Pr to "Olaf y, overt acts of the major- the Contrariatje party ', if it included the ")f but, 1trv/T.':l'fle.ty suspected the pur- Uralligemeli in its ranks. he was glad. f 'e LII: 'r,")),";',; for" gt fi,',' ttat ground Hut the opposition of the Libcml party to e ll y to re ttst t e a ot . lie "45' Sepitrtite Schools had not ceased until Mr. . unable to come to any conclusion that Al Fraser became a man. . Iee.lh. It theve were a vote mid" try-: lion. Mr. Fraser stud that he had never secrecy ot the. ballot as to the rights Oi east a vote nor had anything to do with others there 'ye.Y-t l' good rr'ason to op- the Liberal party during that struggle. s','?,','.',',, ."cb2ett.'ocv",:,vt":'t, . '/"i, alarm?" During his connection With the irasty there F, th )1. N its" a; t ./,"."i',.. Itint l\0 " onmn had not been one syllable in favor ot ..i on. m..i.i P""' at ot", - o'. ""9", abolition of the Separate Schools. Mr. or: "iif "it" 'l,",-)",","," ""1"": 'cl"',', "'1" titil Clattcp would not be so free with his t e ntro: auto" oi tite it; Ol won d it: I I' _ -.- x w I to anything further. or would when the" challtngtu Were he in a ootuiition to take is'atuo of the people t the P -' , _ I care of nim.self. . 0 rOWinite, Jr Mr. r'lattcy reiterated his statement that l, would impair the etticietwy of the Public the Liberai party had at one time opposed _ l or Separate Schools. Therefore, who his Yrcparate Schools. and that Mr. Fraser had ' side of the Hrutse suggeutcd that " ltrin- been reared in the cradle ot Liberalism. I clplo which "W not tt"W, but well trust. Mr. Fraser again denied Mr. kidneys l shank! lu' extcttuod to thi- tttittority. Mi} charge. should such an outcry ln- raise-d ? If they Mr. Clancy went on to say that the at- wi-rc the inventors of the. ballot. if it 10'r,' tittlde of the Liberal party had not Chang. "m I" "S"- if tttcy Wt't'ts tryinK in giic it ed, and than the Attorney-Ga-net-at would to the Separate Schools tirst .oi ull, tin-n.- not ttt present stake the responsibility of would be some ground for objection. Hill. establishing Separxte Schools. it was nut " it was wrong for ltomun t'ntiiolics, why tho View of :he Orange Grand Lodge was it not wrong for Protestants ? alone. but of the minority of the Liberal l'iiilcr the constitution, Mr. I'luncy Went iey1si. Both political parties were op- on. certain rightst were assured posed ito Separate Sohools. to the minority. Keeping that in l Hon. Mr. Fraser said that he did not View. why should anyone be upon to the know of any Liberal prepared to say that charge of having hidden motives for vot- I he was going in for the abolition of Sep. Ing for the compulsory ballot. while now urate Sch-0013: he did know of thousands Mr. Ponmee was bringing in it bill for u. at Uonserwmtivea who would say that. permissive ballot, thereby giving tori-u to Mr. Clancy repeated the opinion that the the charge that the Roman i'iitlioilc lller- majority in both Pateios would like to see arehy have Porn-Hi the luity 'l The Put'- the about-ion of Sepamite Schools. While he pose of the ballot was that all "ten might, did not agree with that View. he believed n their vote. he frees and emancipated that they were honest in that opinion. from the e'ircuut.ut;vnceH of slally life which " the Roman Catholics have an enemy in might ittttuettce tiltir voter-from the lullu- the Province it was the Minister of Edn- enee ot nrslgttbor and elliployer us Well as cation, who had alarmed them and made of clergymen. Ile could cite cases in _ their interesta football. and who with no Public School open voting where men had sympathy at all With them. GL tellitttt been Dre-Vented Irom Voting iii-cause of the ttttatt that the Conservatives Were "HHS Pressure at the polls of neighbors. and he to deprive them of their ritthts. The ques- tould not see why men should not be free , tion was not one of religion. and reli iou from that. He could not see any "ttter- i, ( issues should not be introduced. 'il' 2l ence between young in Separate School l permissive ballot were adopted the "the f