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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 24 Apr 1894, p. 4

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' . t f . = _ r.rCLL'= Giaaaaq . ... . . _ , '1 .. " M""'"'" '"'s"r' . - KEI " . , . Evils would follow no from the ' _ ' . Mr. Bauer?!- "he! that as a representa- ballot. The position. or the eminent ' tive of a ding which contained a large . with regard to that was untenable. He number-of Roman Catholic voters he did voald 'have no hesitation in voting against i not think he should give a silent vote. He [hie bill; because. it was false in every way. was not trying to make political capital, xii-ruse " was who came half-way meas- tor it that were his motive he would best r ' 'srtriett had been molten with regard to do that by taking the opposite of the _ . Public Schools-e measure deoigned to course he was about to take. He thought l Art the Government down easy. Mr. that Mr. White had taken a stand which l Clancy than remarked that trustees elect- would be contrary to that tav- u by open voting would not be likely to, ored by the Roman Catholic voters of his i declare for the ballot, and. in reply to ai constituency. He thought that it was a l question of Mr. Fraser's. declared that he pity that Mr. Meredith had taken his pre- believed in the municipal machinery being sent course, and reminded the House that used with the ballot for both Public adnd his course since 1886 had been Separate School elections. He further e- contrary :to his course 'prior to clared that the bill would prove' a dead . that date. Mr. Meredith discluinml any letter. and concluded by atra/n declaring attempt to rouse religious differences, but than the ballot would Interfere With no his actions belied this, for he had time man's religion. 0 and again assailed the minority and was DIR. WHh'Pru" OPPOSES. J always speaking of their encroachmenis. Mr. Balfour then sketched the manner in Mr. W1htte continued the debate. He which the Roman Catholics and the Pro- complained I". the partlzan character of testants had lived in harmony together be- Mr. oanmee'aspeech, and declared that he tore these imitations had been started, was not in Rtvor of the proposition which and instanced the (use of Windsor. which he had submitted to the House. It would Mr. White had previously cited, as a (use not put an end to the bickenings . lt would in which the new spirit of intolerance had simply trangter the quarreliintr from the upset the spirit of harmony which but] pre- House to the school 59""0735' Mr. yil1t.t milled. He reminded Mr. Whitethat he had then cited the PM" of " Indsor, where been compelled to pun as an independent there is one Union t%hool Board, one with regard to Mr. Meredith's educational school board election. and the ballot is policy, so unpopular had that policy been used, and (litholics and P1e'ie/,es,1,it,1'l in his constituency. He knew now mat- together in harmony. He believed that ters had stood in Windsor. and could say 3 the Catholic priesthood would prefer not l that it was not by compulsion but by per- [to have the question continually rlebaitedi suusion that the union board had been 'in the House and the country. and would l, formed. He denied mitt there was a solid prefer 'to get rid of the charge of t.erro.is Catholic vote, saying that neither he nor ism. He then declared one sub-section in Mr. White nor Mr. Clancy had ever found Mr. Conmee 3 bill would make the ballot the Catholic vote solid, either for them or compulsory after alt, for it stipulated that against them. There seemed good reason ep bfsllot 0;" adopted Shallldfge "ee: to think that there was a combination of e or t ree years. r ' i the P. P. A. and the Consmvatives. The years why not tor _ll, the time?; Roman Catholics might well he excused He believed that Mr. C?onmee had 'edt I tor looking with suspicion on their would- sireto succeed in allmy'ing 1tlreut strife ' I be defenders. The Orange Grand Lodge he had tauntod the Orangemen and the! had adopted a, programme which tlrst as- P. P. A. and had trldd to incite religious sailed the ameliorations of the Separate hostility. that was a mode of procedure School law passed by the present Govern- trye which he had no "RE III was the mode ment, and then aimed at the abolition ot of Judas 'si-triut. of trying to advance the Separate Schools. Mr. Balfour then onc's politiml fortunes by means of his alluded to the argument that because the i-t-litrion. If 'ne tey/d If. I'T'l at. any; Liberals in 186'.) opposed the Separate '/Js",ye'lirn/'1', i: "h1i1t',,,vi,1t,tii','at it? ":11 00" School act they could not be honest in s ret!trt0n e' . ..c ' g" . supporting it now. The Attorney-Gen- wit'aout it. He then held that there "A. eral's position was that the Separate no finality in the measure before the Schools wen.- the result of a cmnpi-umise, House. The House should be bold enough and were guaranteed " Confederation; to pass laws thnt would iiavt. mm" "if?" and whut remained was to secure for them ing uit tlits s'ttv'tu.'.t," book. In" an efficient machinery whereby a proper . Would t'uilt4t' Itlg-l'ibiilllt'.' "hm". li-li' system of education could be secured. Mr. i _ i'illlillry' 'l'lw \ll'ilii-l C,')";.'),, lllulilllS Ill» IBHifOUl' 88150 cited thoi wctrds de Ice, l . sin-ct was m.- . liil"i"i' " 'p "A ~"- ',,- iGeorge rown as to hls attittt e to t e 1' til more was -- tioupoli:icul 'ncurl lo ttint Separate Schools. The Liberals were pre- di-pairtincnt 'Kilt'l't' wottltt In. no ind to pured loyally to abide by the agreement tin-st- bicittwittp,s. ' .. embodied in Confederation. The Conser- Hun. Mr. iti,ss---Who is bickering TP' . vattivcs had for years had the great body Nr. White-The hott. Ki'illii'nm" IS birk- of the Cutholio vote. but as time went on ering with himself. Mr. "lint- went on to they had divided up arrgsh on political di scribe the Minister ofi rfaaur"l,t.).uh"u',"'dt, lines; and as soon as the leader' of the Op- tlrt brand who was apply ttlg a tore. U " position found he had lost the summit of question at issue. The school syst-in the majority of the Roman Catholics he should be taken out ot ttte region or poll- had takcn it course to attract the votes of tics. ilhe opposite side. and so at. large majority Hon. Mr. Ross--The Separate St'in' 'f?"" of the Roman Catholics had beer. driven tent was passed under the administration limo the Liberal party. Mr. Balfour then of the Chief s'uperintent "nt. reminded Mr. Meredith of the part mem- Mr. White-l think it was since the hon. bent of the P. H. A. took at his nomina- gentleman came to o',",'.""',') Mr. SN Titihwle'm tion, ond of the Ialliances Aictiwccn _,t),ti Cen- on to deny that the (tttttttt 'a ulk's servativcs and the o. '. . n Bevcra con- could be wielded an a Buiid 'ously, and de- stituencies over the Province. Ho ven- clared that they formed their own opin- tured to sa'.. that not one of the members Ions tor themselves. It was wrong to of the Opposition would dare to get up 1t?trh' c)ytvir'.' lot,',', ycc/."'itll11,',', sl.)',',", tuul i',',"t1"i1iv, 'iflnti't'y,1..a/htc,'.eaPti,,Cit le, tle' vote " t e a y. o . '. ". a'. ' was n nvor o ' icr. .- c - one of the chief sinners in that respccl. Roman Catholics. and had no hesitation in Hun. Nt'. Fraser-On what respect l' voting us he proposed to vote. They could Mr. Whlte--You said that you controlled afford to be fern/i,'"',).',", to the minoyu-dln the Itoratttt 1"athollc s -te. this Province. e Maw no T085011 or e- lion. Mr. Fraser-l never said that or parting from the course which the Gov- thought it. The hon. gentleman is indulg- si,',",',','":,",,),") take-\n tt/,'up/T.i'febteo, the ipre- in ' his imaginatlc". sent as tat on. l o tur a een g ven in. Whbte---lt IS thought in the country to the Roman Catholics to which thev that you said it. were not entitled. and he was t'ontident Mr. White then went Into the constitii- that the verdict of the people upon this timml aspect of the question. and traced subject would be the same as it had been th" history of the educational system from in the lost two contests. ' the cupitulation in 1763, and held [h" 2; MR E. F. CLARKE SPEAKS. t Attorney-General had opposed iooti ant _ , , ' nail the Separate School bill of 1863. and Mr. E. F. _,i.11e,tci'1lf, that person; 13 had done all he could to stop its progress. I he. us a citizen, "on i e to see t t ep. ll: was will speaking when the hour of l unite Schools abolished. but that he was 0-..10,.K' Jia," and the Speaker left the not prepared to see them abolished against i/ii, f the will ot the Roman Catholic laity. It _ ' . , , ' - , ' it were not for the way in which the Ar"PHH.NOO.N 8128810)" Separate Schools had been embodied in the Whet. the Hpoaker took the "hill? at 3 Confederation act there would be fewer O'viock the routine business was hurried dimettlties connected with the subject. He through. Hon. Mr. Harcourt 2,1,'."'do"/""tiht maintainied 2y, there thit1)efa"ity'htyte bill it rovide for the transfer 0 t e among the oman Lit Oile at y or e name; o'f1'l',th'.,, from the lists of one elec- ballot, and that in Toronto intelligent toral "rs'trict to another. and then the de- Relmun 1"L'atlti?iic blalimtwn 313:1" "tie, we". bat" was continued. yo ces or it: ft o sy: e . - .ien Mr. whit: coni'llldeii his speech. Het do- touched upon the declaration of the West- , t . . , funded the Opposition from the chant- ern f',',"il,"gl, 'iof,'fec,tnoci1i,:i"tg/tc'i"t"yit, had that they Wore trying to do away with up bum mutt. an 12ll'., in} 1 "d tdtf 30$ constitutional rights of tho Catholics. and contain one nto trad . "on... e e en in "WWW-ii that it was cowardly for the Gov. Mr, J. L. 1,1e?.,et,.tto, had uttered. the n-nmom to doput" to Mr. "0mm... the task i words l question. f,',"s"1/,',i'. l _iep,','ii"c,vtl',ifnt or bringing in it bill which should have ltad'beenfniu1 cage: list 1',"ha/7 a"ld/d',ta"/,'t been introduced by a 'Minister. He was of led t at]: t etshysiein w ll. . "may 00.1 2h opinion that the majority of Roman Cath- I were to oBed l Willie? WoU e mu. mm were not mm..." to the ballot and the better. When the Grand Master had strongly opposed iii. aiiGirin of a. half- Wald he believed in one national education _ . g " . w) ' Way mcasure. The ballot should be com- :fnr the children of tho inn Pf? It had who. . . . I fallen foul of the member for South Essex. _ I). and so avoid the danger of tho but he thouzht the majority of the co lei, if?" being transferred to the school V ' . .. l). 2.1 N' tins.

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