The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 24 Apr 1894, p. 6

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. _ - . . '., " - PM F ' - T"'.I .4. ". I . , . to, the com.. _ . " ' ' . . tV certain they ' not NUT the Hmtestant portion tif "in ould . ISN It Cpulsory ballot. He hoped the House won't: expect that Roman Catholics 'g an Puttiid _ by a up". anoi-ity vote for the ilseco the ballot to 9- ttrettter "A"; min: to reading of the bill providing for the 09- schools , That they would e l'l'd ult- tional system. (Applause.) adet the ballot when they are i for " " It was the Protestants who . HON. MR. FRASER. is?" asking for the ballot tor {'03: The Commissioner of Public W0 B then Catholics. Those who advocated t ham! added some remarks which his weakness to them: "You are too much in title. trus- had prevented him making earlier in the of your clergy i you cannot elect t e the debate. He sold it he had had any that"): tees you wish; we want to give your at all at the time this discussion start. d ballot for the purpose ot trtfl'y,r you ram. as to the attitude he should assume in re- the Intiuence ot your clergy. 39,33: gard to the present bill at the present time quite sure no Protestant I'"?,',',';,";,"','!'), I he certainly had none now. He gathered would accept a. measure forced upon k T? I in m the leader of the Opptsition and from in that way. " another 1e,,n,y,1.P.1it',' [ tne members for Kent and lisex that solar were to approach it with the remarlt. "if: as Separalc tit hoot elections were concern- are not free ', you cannoc do what you ii ed their proposition was that the municipal l: is necessary that W" who are oppose system was to be npplitl to those elec- t) your retibon should interfere N. my}: [ tions. Tho Roman Catholics were to be dc- you the rights you ought v.', "1l'ts', trived ot all the rights and privileges, they what would be the rtlul.t ii., . ll) cnJoyed, and turned over to the municipal ioti'e the ballot upon the cumulus. we] machinery. Ho far as he had approved ot the ballot himself. He thorn. xi considt-red the matter. he con- lt Wa." the best "main ot voting. 'l:; Sq l sidered it so mucn ultra vires of thin pected the Roman Catholics maniacal; House that he had no hesitation in saying some day or other, to'adopt it. e Ti. it would be the bounden duty of Separate however. no expectation ot their in" School supporters, it this House passed adopting it so long as the ("Gino") w n such a measure. to resist that law to the ',dtrr2lt with as at present by .ho.n. be": "ll/ill uttermost. and to test it in the final court _rpvcsite. Mr. Meredith (Ilafmzdl- .[ they l of the realm. Therefore. having regard to (in the interests ot Roman Cat o N', . lv I the bill of the hon. member for Algoma. ishouid have the compulsory ballot. huge: , and what he said he proposed to do to his litormmi cPttorics.tttPitly.'i' were; 1th to}; bill by way of amendment, he did not judges or.ttpt. Ptrt was no Itou . . nt propose to strengthen the attitude or the trreatt majority ot them "I": at WISE". positiin or the arguments of any of those opposed to it. If hon. gent emen ', or gentlemen whom he had named by voting swim?" ad they argued their cum" against this bill at this step. He preferred luctiott should be the reverse Pr what lt to wait until he had been the amendments IHOW wag. Instead of endeavoN'ng to force He did not propose to play into the hum". Itin- ballot upon xiii-m they should tIriiletii'2; ofrthose who were dealing- a blow at the id", 5319?,»'1'? '/ty'1,ttodt1'.i/1l',h1ti'i't',t/ul', Separatc School system, though smile of It" Fil bur???" y, ' _ . . i, Mr them might not think they were so doing. "'5' y,., "$1?me ji.")?'. (f'e1r1)),r'.'li,..nd,1Ji " the House exceeded its jurisdiction and 1'-tiia,reil,i,'i,iit" if; "It in, '..,'H;,.;.,; 'ii, u". nutter passed " measure they wue not entitled i l/or"'.,)',',',',),').;,' LHe did not know that anybody '03 and at": it/il"'",'; School Silhpglnlors l". h "CC-sum it did. I't was. however, sttltmltte o hat, t '6) were . nv th I Shiite Ie/dll' for Roman Catholics to call themselves In danger. rhe position of Mr. the Separati- Schools "their" schools. Att- hitledhh was that thisddouse hard com- othcr innit to which Mr. Mcrcdith had 3.3m iontroi ovf'r thc siitem of b'epoeate 3t,itueted was [mouse they were W tosls:, 4} to the tssxthroks. as to the C _ . 1" th live mau:taomuitt "WWW ot the, tru.stess, the machinery of under to"")',',.,))) "ll';' 're "Va: . "U: the schools, and in every possible way and 'df,, tII'htholit's, ""'., LMen-dim had sbr,pe and manner. It this were the cm $11.1 religion should not be taught in text- it,',"', l);olpli If tilt; Province hud' been living. booii:. He thought it they we"... untitled . l id l". new: so l" the lac-I. quarter ttl to touch the doctrines of thcir church in it'll LIN}. "e,,! iiime who had been cons, their schools they must be allowed also to I [T'Imr lh'rdnd'" ot the Previnve all (Mil lilctcz'nliiic how they should do m. li their Cl'..?,,', III'ubHJleli dro-.iniiiig thut a system, plan "d5 that their' t't"elert.ehould I'ull- "4.51:3: ('.",U. ind": the Iryeraptett'.1rr min religious teaching he did not know Y/C. "i')'",),,,",:.:,,,?,'",','.,?, hilt] really no exwto, why t/1,y).,Lsihio/1lt1 not i'tll'ri' ol,',,' that midi" Catholics 11",C1"/ 1tler/l,'et,ttt'J/."' is"??? Ho thouw t i t ey were o e a iovte; o ' _". . e er. u e teach their doctrines they must be allow- a: 2:1 J',rt,'ly1'io,"t' help} the agitation so ,.. . _ 5 . minim-Ii way. The i'ominis- - "c'.'R t . gi-n empn were . - "3:22:10" It,t//: Works had said the im- I owned. becau.so, if they here to threaten}? rusition ot the compulsory ballot was be- I proposition at this stugi- they would tnake ','./,i11 the jurilirtlvn of "the Legislature. it a lvi'cmg-I for tho passage of something IVila had coiiVei'Sei with the Cop.ttnisriouer very much tnoreobjectionabie. 'isi'iriii/e'i'/i1 I iiu'l'ii the matter. The t'ott1rnis,'.otwy had th-retort, ut this stage of the bill thv.t it I'y'l'f'): stung views. lie tthe Atturne.v(risn- should EU to the sccond reading. arid itin'ait 'walt did not pretend that the Commission- the amendments, that wer'e proposed. ":'.' had convinced him with t'eferen' to Phat. he thought, should be the attitude Izh- constitutionul point. bue the ballot of ull those who thought, as he did, ttut I.ili'-"11I be connected with machinery which the House had no right to impose a cont. I I':';','.' Horse had no pow-er to crcute. ".ulsory ballot. His constitutional "WM-V Vin-trier or ith it was possible to intro- {mil-q were ttH follows :--The B.N.A. act _ line the bsllot without cc/mea ob.iuc'cionaole -?ye,ke not only of the "rights." but of iui;iils of maohincri' he was at present rights and PNviletres." No legislation not prep.uid to my. Accoriiug 1?y.ey "fe/ut/cially. affect " the rights and it) the contentions of Mr. Mrrc- Igfulligfs' etc. The lioman C'athcttcs nth. whatever chances wt'th? eI'frctcvl in th' curtain pNvlleges by the act. One of yegurd to the Public Sillunls should ho, ("if "tra/y-ia,.',',", he drew a distin'tion he.. I'i::iiiuri_v en'nctcd in the Sepamtu- Schools. "Vii-331:9; Tala/dnt',;" of voting and the that .iic chance- in the one (use would 'Y,. t . up o the vote-tha / I t-csutu'ly follow thut in the other. He £21.5d'léld certain _rorms of machinerv as? laid not think that at the time thoact was {with o tty.. One of these rights and |ii'.imcii ouyluriy "mild have suggests-ll 'v'C't'dli.'""r' "d3 that of election ht open l Inis. There might lw many things Willi-h in I we; t "light be urged that cpun vat-I IF'iri'estuiiis would like which would not hula 't',1C,',"1,/1. Privilege; but it 'he ballot 1r.- suitatrliu for S-n-n-ntn Schools. " Mr. 1tl'pJ,,,1"t'i'l bite"! them, and it the present I \lurwiiilil: Home: rT.y'//,.'yo/,e,.f,. the J'ir"/' it tr','i2t'1,c? T,'ntt,21yutgntto 'i'l'l'" Yvitlinl. I 1:3,..in Quin I,',"?,"','.?'..." in: r I,',",',,',',!?,,,','),,';). I, manner of voting was a l'iriviiez: 1ei".nh1 I '-, IIlI-I i... in :ltucrrtt nary In." " Proust 'l..a'sn1tt,,er'ivio/, law, open voting Ci-rr.u.n|y' l :.:. He tiicught Human Catholic: would the not! ("'9 falling under the terms of have theo right tn coerg'aaln ttt such g on"... "on Dr- ti)/2.te,u"",1e,e?,t was the 8818C. , In casc of a tie the returning omcer would through the 50:33; Jhte,'int,5, Olncen l have tho right to giVe the casting vote, "rlvilege, and the f,'., lC'hool iioanis.'That ' another detail that would be decidedly ob, their. own teacher]; v FEE of appointing . ji'i'liouuliie to Roman Catholics Dl'ivilegos Which they were the two great rile thought it. was out of the could be taken away qgosselsfe¢ It one i, iiIIcStion No doubt we should do and where Would be 'the ff,') l. the Other; l whatever was possible to make mute Schools if the zippoI)r mime of my I them good schools. Whatever leg- own teachers could be hug??? '0: their i.-iaiinn was' neu-ssury Cor that purpose tertrtintition of the number?" the de- II'UulIl not be refused. That was the spirit places would also be taken l polling i of the ll.N.A. act. It expressly provided them under it k'ompulsory 'd'd,rva,iu'ey i for that. Hon. gentlemen opposite might As it is, the boards have the Pit-Eh 'o ytp. lliiluulnt' the existence of divergencies be- cide upon the number of olii5 t to de- twi-in the clergy and the ialty of the and Returning Otticers: un'd tur ptaces I Psimran t'atholic Church. but. looking at pulsory srstem this rich} wouellc-l tine cm" Iihe motter calmly, and taking the Pro- away. Another privilege is th m taken l Vince all over, it Was .orfectly clear. he aiding uron the time of the ole a: of tie. Ilhouxht. that there was the greatest pon- oer a compulsory htlilc: SHE: on. tm. ',sible amity between the two. Protestants could not say when the ed/iii m they I should not assume anything of the kind. take place. and it would be .11., on Wttutsti I incause there appeared to be no ground the tuvtnoil.s and evils of u 'idlfflf,.tie itttrt fot it. Whatever power the :lergy or the ,Sest. lie would propose a. cud-pal eon. Roman Catholic Church possessed they 11tirtlature were to change the- " the, were allowed by the laity. The present selection of Public School Tutsi "we ot question was between the optional sys- ' 1ty11tt,t to appointment by the in from tem of tho ballot, as it prevailed in the i gonna is, would the Separate Qchunmpal Public. Schools. and the compulsory sys- '4 g'/J/yey, to follow suit? In. i'lQii' be tern. urged by the Opposition. The leader Ite, trubJect was surrounded wait. the of the Opposition advocated the compul- c: t et.'. and he tnought their read' dittt.. . S0ry system. He ithe Attorney-General) are?" showed that neither Im-y rumba favored the optional or permissive sys. nor Jhite had really thouiriit'th'e "n.0,! tem. Whether Roman Catholics favored E mam"

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