The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 9 Apr 1895, p. 1

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-- ® * L * / e y j b "~ s mtileas m f # "a% wl f t m c --stimatas Passed After a * 0 (* tuis contract ; that in & / with which the Government. N ,! contract failed, and the eont: e 3 umber Of Votes. } then made with Messrs. H. A. Nélso ' ic _#* y & Sons ; it was ronewed in 1884 an ¥ Legislative Chamber, April 9. } again 'iln d]889. iTl'le Gfo:'lemmfinetfi ha t ely had experience of the ev fee f Half a dozen divisions occurred to-- 'fgl(l)zvln} 'deall)ing with contractore wt i ay, the CGovernment being sustained failed, and were in--a position to appr «by majorities ranging from 10 to 29. In ;,;!ate 'tlhe aid;"anttage of d}oaling ldv 1 a is frms financially strong. who would n attemopn z :,e'ei» \:'r-lnteresting sub leave it in the lurch. The terms of t\ ce ree j prison labor was progsent contract, he added, were simp ven an airing, the Conservatives a readjustment of the former contra« wailing themselves of the motion to the basis of the agreement beine t * | same. One object of the Governme sanction the agreement made with | in employment of prison lahor was Messrs. H. A. Nelson & Sons for the| interfere as little as possible with f1 purchase of the brooms and whisks labor, and on this count Messrs. Nels i s & Sons possessed advantages in t made !y the Central,Prison, to move their trade was largely outside of 1 that such agreement should not be made Trovince, while broom--making h until tonders had been called for. After been found to interfere very little w A free labor and to be fairly remune a spirited debate the Government was tive, the Government deriving v'rom sustaincd by a vote of 51 to 37. In the nbotut 50 (-(;nts a day per prismer. reni iKhe ¢ further point was that it would he hvenllk Q'L' tfoyse took ugifencurreuce, convenient to break the agreemenrt, and a rapid@ succession of divisions fol-- the firm in question has an interest lowed,; the Patrons gencrally dividing, j the Fatents onithtle improved tmarl:)fi and ftheir change -- sbA f ery latecly put in by means of w k iagk s ( '..l.",' from one side Lo the1 the Provincial Secretary remarked, other causing the votes to vary to a output will be so increased that the n somewKWat unusual extent. . Over nne' contract is expected to be more rem " Uthese votes, that to abolish the ()n-' erative, though the rates alro slig'k C Se j rere lewer. No Government had ever b t school of Pedagogy, there arose | known, Hon. Mr. Gibson said in con« ] ture debate, which was marked sion, to advertise for tenders in a ' * W¥ * @ Flon. Mr. Ross tor of this kind. i n drk4 > Wh"-' Col. Matheson made a few remal m: to es sauyIng that the Provincial Secret \ ne e item of > rad advanced no reason why the U i m "awnd fod 1e oronto Asy-- ernment should not try to get as h d ""&a"d over this a arp passe ge,of *.: a price as possible for the proan~t ~f _.arms arose bétween Mr. Haycock and | prizson labor. Further, he held that the Provineial Secretary. The leader | Government's contention thet the of the Patrons bore no malice, how-- | dustry paid was incorrect. 'The low ever, for within a quarter of an hour |l fizure at which brooms could be mi he strongly supported the Government's he contended, was 42 cents per do. stand that it should control the ex-- # w'*kile the Government produced t penditures on colonization -- roads, in-- at 25 conts; for whisks the lowest ; . _'stead of handing the money over to the is 40 cents per dozen, whi'e the cost munjcipslities " 1e _.Gonservatixes ; i the prison was set down as cight o 9Se: * A b | cents, By such prices he held A number of third readings were dig-- vagzes of honest workingmen have b charged when the House met, the bills ! reduced. " tius practically becoming law being | _ Mr. Awrey spoke, holding that it : < the Attorney--General's to make better ' ivst that the prisoners should helf provision for the widows of intestates ! support themselves and not be m in cm:tni:x cases~; Hon. Mr. Dryden's re-- -- tained by the labor of honest men. specting veterinary surgeons ; Mr. Mid-- | then contended that the broom--mat «dleton's to confirm by--laws 689 and 772 f industry is the one that least incon of Ha'Y'.ill-_n[ :_Dr. McKay's respecting 'diences free labor: while as to ~the debt of Woodstock ; Major Hiscott's . _ _| cbarge that the prices were too low, -- t';}COY'fH'm l_).\'-l:}\v 9441 of St. Catharines; Awrey produced cvidence to show : ;V_ R liingz-s l-(-s'p'(*('li')g the Oshawa | I much lower rates are charged in larlway Company and the Township of | | Unrited States. instancing the priso Kast Whithy ; Mr. Wood's to separate ; Syracuse, N.Y. -;I"rtal'n _lands from the Town of St. | | _ _Drz. Ryerson argued against the oary§, M,"' _1"'55'""' s respecting the | . | ployment of prisoners in comnet! TS*"'"" Railway Company and the | ! with free labor. It would be hett« ow n OF Q&huw:z i Mr. German's re-- ; | keep the prisoners employed in carr; specting Coroners ; Mr. Chapple's to | | balls and chains ~ or -- in Rraend. the line fences act ; Mr. Ger-- I | gingk -- holes in -- the -- sand man's to amend the act resnecting be-- f | filling them up again. (C a"f'*'m'_I"\"{Vlfln"n't"m'\fl mh.or sn'vlvtivs; | ! of " Oh! Okh!"} He proposel thatr ie Attorney--Gencral's respecting the ! prisoners might be employed in ¢ ehartoring of trust companies : Hon. | the printing of the House. Msy Dryden's for the further protection | _ Mr. Awrey--How about the prin« .Q_fiq)émns employed ln'plum's of busi-- 1 _ To this pertinent query Dr. HKye t"s other §han f.'xotqrnma : the Attor-- ! roplied that the p:'inu-r:f wourid no ~néy--General's respecting the relations I hurt, because the contracts for pvir of landlord and tenant ; the Attorney-- | were givon at so low a price that .13 %noral s to correct a clerical error in | a wonder to the printers how the v tain forms in the act respecting 'conld be done At the figures 7 mortgages of x:t"al estate, and the At-- f:w '\'va('hw.n{ad\'nfl:{;wl 'liw:-'prln torney--General's to make provision for ol the Public School books in thc j temporary vacancies in cortain offices. ons : titen they 'could be soll ut PRISON V. FREE LABOR. ti-- ir present prices. Mir. (tibson (Huron) contended Then Hon. Mr. CGibson moved the the criminals should earn their k ratification of the renewal of the agreo-- and that to change their employn "me_nt bet ween tho.]nspm-tnr of Prisons | in the dirsction spoken of by tne ® _Pub haritiecs and Messrs. H. A. speakers would require so large an aa & »for the manufacture of ' penditure and cost as to make it an . brooms and isks at the Contral Pris-- profitable change. on for "3"? firm. Mr. Crawford _ questioneid whet Mr. Whitney moved in amendment the criminals under the present sy= that the House was of opinion that no vwere carning their keep, and whet agreecment should be made for the sale the balance was not on the wrong & of prison--made goods with any individ-- of the shoeet. He thought that to : nal or firm until other individuals and for tenders would result in obtain firms had had ample opportuni-- higher prices, and surely there ty to _ compete _ by public no-- i other reputable firms in the sams ] ice. The mvr}]hr'r for -- Dundas of business as Mossrs. Nelson & sons poke : very -- briefly, 'holding that : Hon. Mr. Hardy said that the ame t needed no argument to sustain his | ment did not introduce the qusstion position that the CGovernment should | prison versus free labor. It simt < not abandon so completely the princt-- eandemned the Government for not pI Dli'_ of free competition. The course tins up the labor to public competiti, which it had followed in making the | TSis was the question,. and ne ask J(.mtrm't as it had WwWAaSs improvident, in | the House to consider the great im« that the price it realized was too low, I tance of taking into account the di and it tended to injure free labor. cipline of the ~prison and the cons -- bson defended the soursge qu'«-nt. importance that the Governmeol ment in his usual quiet, should know the contrartor-- shoul ._ He first of all pointed know the man who was to he allowe that the prisoners should within the prison. He denounced th P 4n th_"t there should he di-- idea that the conviets should not be 5\1 ~ theiremployment and that lowed to contribute to their own mald en should be interfered with as tenancee

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