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T# ggd tlf1e endorsement of both the mem.| r w oi is c hnd liot in the district the . Legfslature: thSthe »conaiiincme ' Marter cited cases, not in the dlstl:lct from whieh n uency 4 where he himself lived, butin Sault Ste. C e came. '| Marie, in Haldimand, in Kent, al! THE QUESTION OF POLITICS. places sufficiently far away. As f.f" | the Toronto Island license, there was Proceeding, Mr. Harcourt asked the \ no taint of illegality connected with hon. gentlemen opposite to give one in-- 'it, and the facts were that bufore'the stance in which the license commis-- | | license was granted <-- there was JRQOYA sioners had been used politically. The ; | rowdyism, more drinking there, more | leader of the Opposition had not told | | MMegal selling than now. (Applause.) | all the facts in regard to the Halton | Not only had the Government officials libel suit. The charge was that the l l tried to stop it, but the Toronto police commissioners there had told a man | ;| had tried to stop it, and a special con-- named Caverhill that if a certain man <! stable had been maintained there, and was granted a license his family would / yet a great improvement had taken thereafter support the Government. place on the granting of a limited wine Mr. Kerns--Does the hon. gentleman ° _] and beer license, has know who Caverhill is ? ; Mr. Harcourt then cited the great df}- | Mr. Harcourt--I do not care who ho crease in convictions during tllwtpa;-t iis A few years, showing that since 1889 the Mr. Kerns--He is one of the Police \number has fallen from 4,.797 to 2,237, : HAstrates avnoinlé p s Govern :'l;\ile in 1887, when 50 per cent. of the 'i\,l,?,';: fates appoimied by this. Govern U vince was under the Scott act, there | * o oirina®s $ P PM rir E'ret;'e 1,843 more convictions than in tlh?-"'('lu].?ft'i:n':'xu'{ n ie nb on t %18%. Qntgrio stands highest ll:l point C "Mr. Kerns Aid not reply, and Mr. l of sobriety in the Dominion, while in | d l 'by Al Maine, where there is prohibition, :Harcourt' continued, .~ayin;':v that by '| there are 2.53 convictions per 1,000 of i'lh" verdict of his countrymen the U the. population, against 1.92 per 1,000 in '('ummisslune'r had been freed 11(..m the Lentario. (Applause.) As for the charge charge and it had fallen to the ground. 'of partizanship, it was well known to |'I'h(~ present Government had no ob-- f.». House that in County 'Councils ;jevt in encouraging a lax administra-- -fllere is far more partizanship than in | tion of the liquor. law. As a mat-- the House, and it had been found well \ ter of fact the hoteis of this Pro-- to divorce municipal politics from li-- | vince were better equipped and had 1 cense administration. What would be l as good a class of licenses as exists «result of giving the Mayor of a | anywhere. As for sobriety, this Pro-- c & voige in the license system? | vince was away ahead of any other t charge that there are no Con-- ! Province in the Dominion, or any acting as License Commis-- States that wore near us. In conclud-- on as next rebutted by Mr. Har-- \ ing, Hon. Mr. Harcourt said he would rt, who pointed out that for many | be glad to-- receive, any complaint ears there has been an ardent Con-- ! about -- license &.o0Mecials and would ervative on the board at Kingston: undertake to investigate it, and if it hat there is one in Toronto, in Water-- brought discredit on--the Government 0o and_els«\\'here. the official wonld promptly lose his P Mr. Whitney--How do you know? position. . (Applause.) t Mr. Harcourt--A leopard may change 6i ; his spots, but a Conservative generally THE PATRON LEADER. _ _remains a Conservative. (Applause.) In c «_ Next Mr. Harcourt touched on the Mr. Haycock also spoke briefiy on charge that the law about conviction the amendment. He said that the for the third of{ence is neglected. The question should not be a political one. »-- member for Lennox knew better; knew The temperance question is the one that there was a hotel in his own rid-- we ought to hold away from politics ; ng where the law had been enforced. |\ y¥ Mr. Marter. had introduced it as $ Mr. Whitney--Name. \a vote of want. of confidence in the Mr. Harcourt--It is the Briscoe | GGovernment. (Hear, hear.) He could House. (Applause.) inot agree with the preamble of the _ Mr. btr_atton--'l'he Cavanagh Hotel, * | amendment, but he did agree with the , eterboro', was another case,> | proposed system of appointing license f som® i IMEN CaSBS. | commissioners. That system would *,--'.\l'ai'"m:. R | lnllu\\' a representation of the people Licen 3 have ofte'n:)deen flnedrt"-i.;-e | '. ('h!'m'.qh the Warden, the county a afterwards obtained a transfer »f through the County Judge, and the )S;w' ¢'ant' of the business, !I'rm'im'e through the Government ap-- farcourt continued. It is wltifln pointee. There was never an honest 6 retion o!;;l_:e-Magistrate to lay iliquur law on the statute books of m offence as a first Instead of a third ' i('::rmda, Mr. Haycock contended. The ffence, so that neither the inspector | trouble arose through the offence lor the license commissioners have any | being compounded by settling the vio-- ontrol of it. The department often re-- lations of the law by paying money. teives information from temperance | Mr. Haycock concluded by saying he people and others reégarding violations | would have to support the imotion of of the law and write to thank them for | | the leader of the Opposition. It. There had been a sensation in some | _ _Mr. Meacham, in a speech of some fcircles about an alleged scandal in ' | lengthb, said that the Government could || Millbrook. The facts of the case were | | not surely claim credit for the increase as follows :--In 1881 the population of | , in temperance sentiment throughout * || the town was over 1,000, which entitled | l the Province. He then quoted a num-- it to four licenses, Ten years later | b'(?l' of figures t"'fihfl\\' the income the the population, for reasons which the | | Government received from licenses. Dntario Government were not respon-- | | _ _Mr. Middleton said Mr. Marter's ble for, jhad faHl en to less than | ' speech had been clearly partizan. All Consequently the number of | | temperance people have confidence in had to be reduced to three and ; the leader of the Government regard-- well within the law. Under | ing temperance legislation. Mr. Mid-- etion of the act the municivality [ ;dletun quoted Mr. Marter's reply to _ direct that a special census be | the questions put by the wW. C. T. .: I. _ This was done in Millbrook, 4 . in which he had not answered yes to he result that the population re-- | the question as to whether he would m showed over 1,000. In view of that | strive for the enforeement of the liquor was again entitled to four licenses. |law, Mr. Middleton concluded by say-- nere was an observance of the law | ng that 'I"h'v Templar was a paper D far as the license commissioners | which, politically, was untrustworthy; were concerned. The municipal offi-- | i1 some of the statements it made ers of Millbrook settled that question, | were made by any other newspaper in |fand it was their action that led to the | lt_l;o Province it would be liable for increase of licenses. (Applause.) The | libel. __ > Bault Ste. Marie case had also been | _ Mr. Kerns considered that if the peo-- _ made a sensation of by certain news-- | ple of Toronto had their present Mayor papers which connected a murder with j on the License Board the temperance an alleged ilegal license. It was stat-- | | people would have nothing --to fear, d that the two men who committed | | Mr. Kerns then recited the incidents he murder became drunk at a tavern | Ese the Halton County.case, and closed hich was illegally Jicensed. _ As a ' | by saying he had no hesitation in say-- atter of fact the place was as legally | | ing the license law was not properly ised as the Queen's or the Rossin | administered in that county. ta this city. The investigation by the It was now past 11 o'clock, and Mr. Crown Attorney showed, too, that the l Marter suggested the adjournment of liquor had .been got at another hotel | Ithe House, but,the members of the acros sthe river, and not one drop was Government asked that the debate be obtained in the place in question. (Ap-- ' ' continued for an hour at least. folause.). Fault had ailso been found 1 Mr. St. John, continuing the debate, | ;Ii\:h the granting of a license to one | Sarg"ui Sifonous speech, in which he irt in Hamilton, some parties having | said the administration of the License Saidvit was granted illegally. In this D('pa'rtment was made a means toward case the commissioners acted within e orernment"keeping in office, the provisions of the statute, and Hunt Mr. Kidd spoke brigfly with regard | to the personnel of the commissioners ; | in iCarleton. and--Mr.; Moore spoke for | oi' /