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ree "The receipts and the expenditures," he said, " were the reovenues and ex-- penditures of the Province from the first year down to 1896. But the Pro-- vince started with millions to the good." as lianilities. The receipts of the Pro-- vince since Confederation to the pre-- sent were $89,365,700, and the expendi-- tures $89,131,561, leaving a balance on the right side of $233,000,. The Treasurer himself had admitted the liabilities to be $2,732,865, for the payment of which there was only $233,000, so that there was a deficit of $2,499.865. Mr. Marter asked the Treasurer to explain that if he could. * Mr. Marter laid himself out to prove that the boasted surplus of the Govern-- ment did not exist.!. He challenged the statement of the Treasurer that the Sandfield Macdonald Government had a surplus of only $1,350,000. The sur-- plus, as a matter of fact, was $3,810,966 in cash and bonds. The present Gov-- ernment had in drainage and tile de-- bentures and in cash $616,206. That amount represented what the Sandfield Macdonald Government _ had in boads and debentures of $3,810,-- (00, so that there had been a shrinkage under the present Ad-- ministration of $3,194,286. The Sand-- field Macdonald Government received from their cash savings invested $148,-- 703 in 1871, whereas the present Gov-- ernment in 1836 had received only $46,-- 026, the difference in favor of the form-- er being $107,677. In 1871 the Macdon-- ald Government received from capital held and debts due by the Dominion to Ontario $140,318, while the present Gov-- ernment received from that source $214,528. For this the Government could not claim any credit. Mr. Marter made a calculation as to the financial posi-- tion of the Province. While he said there were available assets of drainage debentures and cash of $616,206, there were liabilities of $4,316,630. Despite the protest of the Premier he persist-- ed in treating the railway certificates WM'rT--iffiroourt arose to comply with the request. Ex is 3 _"Where did it get them ?" asked Mr. Marter. F T a "I am glad that at last we have got face to face and that he cannot an-- swer." The incident was closed and the Speaker declared it was 6 a'clock. More Details Wanted. Mr. Marter had a word of complaint to utter about the public accounts of the Province. They were not explicit enough, he said, to show in detail how the public money is expendeéed. To get at the facts it was necessary to go to " Does my hon. friend want me to answer that question ? I have stated it repeatedly." " Let the hon. gentleman take five minutes, and Iwill take five minutes to assist him." " If I were outside the House I would say that the djanguage which the hon. gontleman has just used is the language of a mountebank." tween the Government and Opposition was that regarding the timber resour-- ces of the Province. It behooved the Government to husband and take care of its timber, Wipes Out tho Surplus. MDriv ulA NB s iA to rise and reply to such childish stat»-- ments. Plunging at once into the boundary question he asserted that the Government had charged that the hon gentlemen opposite were pursuing an unpatriotic course in this matter and of playing into the hands of their fel-- iow--Conservatives in the Dominion House. The charge had been made then, had been made since, and the country and the House knew that the charges were true. Had the Opposition risen and voted as one man with the Government and showed Sir John Mac-- donald that the Conservatives of the Province were determined to protect the rights of the Province there would have been a settlement of the matter within a year's time. On the other hand, the Dominion Government was, by their action, encouraged, at ali events was not discouraged, by hon. gentlemen who were in Opposition in this House. The hon. gentleman who had just spokén had proclaimed him-- self a follower of Sir John Macdonald, and he had repudiated Sir Charles Tupper, Sir John Thompson, Sir Mackenzie Bowell and Sir John Ab-- bott. He (Hon. Mr. Gibson) knew of no more effective repudiation than that by which the hon. gentleman had over and over again asserted himself as a follower of Sir John Macdonald to the exclusion of all other leaders who fol-- to grant the request of those Canadian lumbermen who had represented that because of the disadvantages at which they were placed they could not stand against the competition of the Am-- ericans who are taking away Ontario's logs. Mr. Marter promised that when he and his friends came into power they would put into force the Con-- servative policy. That they were com-- ing into power was beyond question. It was in the air. An Unpatriotic Course. Hon. Mr. Gibson expressed surpriso that an hon. gentleman who had been so long in public life should make such puerile statements as the hon. gentle-- man who had just taken his seat had offered. It was almost more than one's patience could stand to be called upon CHO P UWIo -- ARCCUIUOT LNE Emm oC ask for the prpduc% flvouchers. The Public Accounts Committee was unable to investigate every account of the Province, as its meetings were lim-- ited in number and duration of time. He held up the report of the Dom-- inion Auditor--General as a model to guide the Provincial Auditor. Mr. Marter came back to the question of railway certificates. He said that by the system deferring the payment of railway subsidies for 40 --years a sub-- sidy at the rate of $3,000 a mile was swelled into a subsidy of $10,000 a mile, $7,000 of which went not to the rail-- way but to the persons who collected interest on the securities, He advo-- cated the adoption of the policy of pur-- chasing supplies for the public insti-- tutions by tender. _ He made the de-- claration that the saving in prices and di'scounts would be sufficient to pay the salaries of the Ministers. He called upon the Government to impose upon limit holders the obligation to manu-- facture timber in this country. _ This, he said, was the policy that the Conser-- vatives had advocated for years. From the speech which the Premier had de-- livered a few days ago he concluded that the Government did not propose