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e f had had deficits, was a practi--«| ney denied that he had--ever said that al admission that the Ontario GOVE most of the useful--legislation passed by 87 ernment had a deficit. If--they had no the House had been due to Mr. Mere-- they should say so. Mr. Whitne}'- dith and himself. He blamed it on the | while reluctant to discuss Dominion a -l reporter, remarking at the same time j fairs, said that the first year that} | that he had no fault to find with the § the Liberal Government had been in | accuracy of reports. He admitted, how-- power at Ottawa they had brought ever, that he might hbhave used the £4 down estimates $10,000,000 in excess of -- words at Shelburne quoted by Mr. Gib-- , the last estimates of the Conserva-- son, but he sald that there woere words tive Government. This statement Mt'.I before, between and after which meant ; > Koss characterized as a Tupperlsm.' something more than the bald quota-- i whereat Mr. Whitney repliedlth?ltld';a tion indicated. ® { was content to let the people . | ! as between his veracity and that Oti Comparison of Cost. = : f { Mr. Ross. The leader of the ODPOS'; His hon friend (Hon. _ Mr. ' ; i tion took issue with the statement of| Ross) had compared -- the -- cost (% '! thé Treasurer that thore was timber| of _ legislation _ and _ civil govern-- ' enough to last for generations to come. ment between Ontario and Quebec and $ Mr. Charlton had said that there W-'": between Ontario and the Dominion. He timber enough to last for 152 years, Yed charged that the hon. gentleman had the Government was going on to spen made a most unfair comparison, in money upon a scheme of r;srorestr}}"- view of the fact that --there are two a | Mr. Whitney wanted to know what the Houses in Quebec and in the Dominion, s +4 attitude of the Premier would be Wh"'E and that in both the proceedings are $ some of the Provinces made a deman ' * _ printed in two languages, whereas in | { for better terms in accordance with the Ontario we had but one House and one _ i telegram sent by Sir Wilfrid Laurier language. His hon. frierd had referred p to Mr. Mercier. Col. Matheson had | to the attitude of the Opposition upon ' said that for the last three years there questions which are now happily rele-- § had been deficits of $400,000, aggregat-- gated to oblivion, and had unearthed -- ing $1,200,000. . This statement had been and waved before them the red filag of made last session by Col. Matheson in intolerance. The hon. gentleman must regard to the three preceding years,-- take the results of his action in reviv-- and it had not been contradicted by |ing a question which caused trouble the Ministers. ' between class and creed. He regretted % that this action had been taken by the ' | Defence of the Oild Chieftain. | hon. gentleman who had charge of the g | _ He came to deal with the statements education of the chelldren of this Pro-- ' | made by Mr, Gibson, prefacing his re-- vince. He strongly advocated a non-- ply to the Commissioner of Crown political Minister of Education, and de-- Lands with an expression of the warm-- clared that it is absoiutely necessary est personal feeling towards him. The and there is prime need for it. that the Opposition leader defended the course Minister of Education, the head of the of Sir John Macdonald in resisting the department, should be in touch and in title cf Ontario to the disputed terri-- line, in accord, with public sentiment © § tory. Sir John, he said, would have on the question of education, ~and / f $ been false to his trust had he not should not be a man of such force of ' $ ch#mpioned the claim of the Domin-- character that he must have his own 1 1% ion, whose servant he was. Sir Oliver way entirely with regard to everything ' 3 Mowat while Premier had taken the in connection with the administration -- yB side cf the people of Ontario, notably ; of his department. His hon. friend ' o { in the Queen's Counsel case, but when would have to do something to remove ' | B ? he went to Ottawa he very properly from the public mind the fact that last appealed to the Privy Council on the winter in this Legislature he had voted ' other side of the question, to reduce the quantity of liquor to be k Mr. Conmee remark d that the Com-- sold in stores to one--half pint. Revert-- missioner had not been complaining of ing to the appointment of an Advisory . 4 the action of Sir John Macdonald, but Board to act with the Minister of Edu-- | $ of the attitude of the Ontario Oppost-- | cation, he pointed out that the appoint-- t tion. Mr. Whitney said that the| ;ment of the board woulid not deprive j Bureau of Industries insisted that mu--| | the Minister of one particle of his au-- ' ricipalities should make a return of l thority, and he should not be deprived ' their whole iiabilities, yet the Govern-- | of it, but surely the Minister would ment did not-- folow that -- plan ; | not object to have the assistance and themselves in making their financial | advice of the leading educationists statement. Mr. Gibson had complain-- of the Province. ; ed because he (Mr. Whitney) had Hon. Mr. Ross--We have that now. 3 charged the Government with squan-- Mr. Whitney--Just so. The hon. gen-- - dering the resources of the Province. tleman the other night declared an Ad-- He had looked up the word "squander'" visory Board to be contrary to the i in the dictionary, and he had found British custom of responsible govern-- $ that it meant "to spend wastefully or ment, and now he wheels around and Fi with foolish lavishness." There was no say we have it now,. word in the English language that was o more applicable to the course of the University Control. Government. Mr. Whitney then pro-- ceeded to justify the statements he had Continuing, Mr, Whitney said he haa made at Hamilton in regard to the never sought any gentleman connected +4 t | amounts paid overseers on colonization with the University in his life, but for roads and bridges. He had. he said. ; . eight years he had been sought by f ; | sought to show the amount pald for them, and if hon. gentlemen opposite ; inspection and for the labor which had only knew the names of the gentlemen been inspected. His remarks had been who had approached him they would *based on statements in the Journals of | be surprised. But these gentliemen had the House that $200 was paid for in-- ) come to him in connection with vari-- ' | specting $100 worth of labor. Mr. Whit-- ous matters relating to education in i o