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ic3 tm » M n ; x Tt 92 [ so Practically Shut Out. __ _ Attitude of Michigan Lumbermen, | are ptrh:ct"lc';?l Ge;:lrl:ln Bay lumbermen Now, the transfer from th Poan ricaliy shut out of the Ameri-- Bay «region to Mi : the Georgian ~can, mar ets by the competition of the mill ind PS oo ooo ot 1ht saw-- chigan lumbermen, who own limits WaiopntUstry s no doubt, a matter on tnis side, can cut their logs and float ynich is regarded by our nennie wis. ! them out to the Georgian Bay, raft gréat concern, and is most distasteful. | them and take them over to their mills One of the questions which has arisen \ ;a;lfd manufa_oturo them there. Now the in connection with the discussion of ; | effect of this, Mr. Speaker, is to very this matter is, how far the Michigan certainly and effectively shut up the lumbermen themselves have contribut--* 'cperatlons of the mills on the Georgian ed to bringing about this unsatisfact-- | Bay, and I do not mean by that that ory state of things. There is reason | onlyfl'anadinns are affected, because a to believe that some of those interest-- | considerable number of Americans who ed in lumbering matters were not only ' have bought limits that are tributary upproving of the action which was | to the Georgian Bay have their mills taken by Congress, but took a very $ land are in the habit of cutting their active part in organizing and work-- & logs into lumber on this side of the line, ing up the change of the tariff which E amd they are affected precisely in the was made.. On the other hand, it is § same way as Canadians who own their said, and I have no hesitation in stat-- f mills and are hampered and shut out | Ing it as my belief, that many of those 3 ;'[Y t"ll\sybnl);;ismn'sd of. th(;:- Dingley hill.J u};::)birr-r:(i?ltg:estt'«]\'d 73"?§n331331"1}?fi{12 1 T ad it is 1 "d"" a the ve 10 --is. said | exerted themselves to the utmost in 1 s urged and the people as a rule | the endeavor to influence the action of believe, that it is all important that Congress in such a way that if a dut ingsl shaye be . manufactured inml were to be imposed at all it should h'é indugtey i } po of -- t e | on lumber, and that nothing like an j ui x'.\ 8 nh the sawing of lug&.' automatic arrangement or device by _ 14 s not the case. Since taking which, on the imposition of an export (harge of my department, the dutics of| duty l'n this country on logs, a penalty which have necessarily brought me in-! should be impeosed on us by'the éct of to contact }\'llh these questions, I have i?ongress shf))uld' be thought of. We been surprised to find how small the have had the strongest assurances on proportion of the labor engaged in the this sutject rro;p s;"r;o of t.hns» lumber-- conversion of sawlogs into lumber was men wl;o have \-'gk-"gd'us and (ha.ve laid to the whole cost of the production of their views before us Ex--CGovernor lun)her, from the cutting of the ma--| Rich who was one of'thc: deputation terial as it stands in the tree. I have that' came to interview the Govern-- nere a ('uh'ulatn.m showing pretty (~nn-l ment, was very pronounced up'on the 5-32:"(:.{"\.]1":?imur_m";s of the total] attiu'xde which he ard his colleagues & COs AD P 8 & 2 2 i > * | * 4 ting of the tl'('o's( i'lin(nl;t( 4 oo th('('m-' \I ashingion in eonne. on mite "the 1 e woods, piling| Washington in connection with the l.nvm., hauling Ehenl out to the streams, raising of the tariff énd the conclus-- ;:l?:m'fiu;h:)fl]tt';:::"nthp sllrteams to the ion which was arrived at, so ffir as 'it , & eim nto r 8 § towing. I have a statement a{frt';mro:x\- es namae db men in theks 3 l':f}']';:?r"t':'?:."f great experience, one That Interview. i \\'uuifl3 I M iyure Ao, pthuon, . matkters That lead t d, . am sure, not be gainsaid for 1 t C P oys & word or two a moment in (.h:s House, as to the a¢ n l::erence to the so--called secret tugl cost of milling. It is as follows :-- }2" 1 8 Wh'ic'h nas b'een already re-- Cost of sawing lumber at Peter's tJTed tp thn this' n " daemutaning ;\':nlk lmc'lufln_u: repairs, breakages, | (.?,me"'{' that G "hren C T hes, 'as 1u"n'fr' ow n.\ml', t}ttm.;: up in the spring. ; a rule om %e :gvi.nm:nt lthey. e T eot .h'tilll]lc} q;.-"."\"l'"g else--17,000,00) the préu- cert:i'l'u ntht eGa(.))?ence if Cost or xi o L O L0 1t 1X per MJ have never felt ar¥y obli a";:rg;nerx;t | C e.hi) K ].g'.pu'l,g. freight and Iumlinc'l sponsibility imposed u ngth t e thp;l\\'(fl.".:q |~' l-_' per M., the shippers| that the preml '.Spo reea !o on ro"'s.."r p."..;.l:lvlllli: it from the fl-(bnt: all occasions to report 1n:)e!;-evsiee!?ws_ 0!1' _In years when we did the loadific :xave a very distinct recollection ot ;'Tu!;."t:*'l)\tus t_hu entire cost was about O?rg,fe g:;z\:vtat!ons, pteliha,ps consis us tagh th:tp:l'u 1\'1]-""'" £*th | ing appearog ?3? t?elngmhvggrn:lg'smtll:: & 'ing 0 e reg ma | + 4 ltn the front would be from Rr (tle';.tr;"(tg e OeR iL and ho reprecentative of 110 cents, or in all: aig the press being present. It is a mere Gawing..'.. ... ..:.., .# M¥ i9iAes| matter of chance whether they are Loading (if all aone) ....., i7:: | tbhere 1;1' ?{;t GSn i ament wan ahore | er o e overnment was aware, | M------Sl J L.2 there was no idea whether the press l ' If in loading, the shippers o = | was to be present or not. I do not sup-- :?,7;, 'tmml of rr.l-lght .Inud the : pose I ;ho:ght of .the matter in ad-- |fre n m es,. the moving to the vance of the interview. I say in all | mt would not cost more than seriousness, and with all the emphasis 10 cents, thus, deducting from that I am capable of, that I was not " ~ aiftammtiuranbkieer 7 aware that there was a single represen-- ' El ar lanar s d tative of the press in this building upon ; $1 24 1.5| that occasion or during that day. i 6. " f}@ight is per Canadian all d}d hnot knowv that any representative a vessels, then there is to e of the press wanted to be present, and padded freight --:~..::«.,....,.. 1 12 1.3 o nof poui ons ce faving that I ie <aRd do not believe a single member of the $2 3;--' Government bad any other feeling or I motive or knowledge regarding the