The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 22 Aug 1898, p. 5

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e o _ # w and a Detroit gentieman naa made a $ S ie 'fzo',:', ered o:mmgr?afs V or i complaint against the act passed at the | 0 0 whou oC P n-'"'fl" were resuming last session, claiming that the act was prices Ta w Horefore, the pri-- in contravention,of the orlginal con-- their norm@A leveL.,.;J.l' ere' iwe would -- [ wact of the sale of timber limits, and son "l'-'a"t')'em"és"';;;d "?de! £Wus that the Ontario Government were vio-- short )VH ]: (N(,%r()ntaflo) and Mr. lating that conflidence. and praying for | l t 5ke, criticlizing the the withdrawal of disallowance of the | Kidd (Carleion) spoke, C Ing of act. 'Mr. Hardy said he took the | t Government's methodg of disposing * n H1 ply of i the | twine, and asking» that the output 81'0lmd m s reply opposing e ttt'ethe" rison be diskgributed through the proposition throughout. He drew at-- (I)«' rmex?c' Institutes or other agricul-- tention to the fact that the British tuai'al agencies, inste®'d 'of, as at preaeint. North A.g»erlcl:a. arct.ptllfetil ths magag:- 4 a any: for disposal. ment and sale of public land and the being sold to @cCoMIpRIH timber and mwood thereon in the hands , The Lumber Question Again. of the Province. The Dominion Gov-- & « tted the reyly, a Mr. Whitney moved for «n Gg.e;l:n&g?_ fii'l«'flfi'}t h::n:;nmm T eek dohe aglefl to his Honor the Tfir"te"a: 16 'be:laid ' yond that, and therefore the confer-- praying that he will caus f sobies of ence was not at liberty to deal with before this House ai);eturn 0 i"mi-l or the matter without the consent of the all correspondence between his (:,n Province, or without making some ar-- the Lleutenant-G?;rer'nor;h:!:'t: m:_;n at;r; mnge'r'he;w Mr. Hardy kz:en recalled 3fmt1lt1>:r ?l?;:e':g. ang';:lr: Excellency the that it was suggested with some levity Gavernor--General, or the Govemm.gnt and not & llblflehln:'xi'tend;fl:'ta)'thhen t:;e of Canada, or any member thereof, with act was Da"ed1 htt C ge m:.t otolt.lm'l'cl?er; | reference to any reprosentations made plications mig a' t be e ades. by any American lumbermen in re-- was no doubt it mig n en nan nc lation to any legislation passed by this tion, on the ground, as contended by Hcuse at its last session, and with Te-- the Americans, that the Ontario Gov-- lation to the nppearantce befflfs :;':, ernment had virtually confiscated the Quebee conference. 4t I98 (20MiChaif of property of the American lumbermen, sion of eminent counsel on hehalf 0 and varied Wy act of Parliament the said American lumbenmen with rela-- terms under which they buought their tion to complaints regarding any of limits, and under which the limits the said legislation passed by ktlhls were sold. The contention of the Gov-- House at its last session. In sncg !llfl' ernment was twofold: That they were to the motion Mr.. Whitney said the sifypIy éarrying out the act answer of the Premier to his questiong in accordance with the regulations and earlier in the evening had materially terms of sale, and that they had 'h""eufi} fhS J'm:rk' h* lnt:n&duttr.) kept within those limits. But even if | make.' O innoar ) 't"u lont othe lum-- they had not they themselves must bel D crimen 9f the Province, butr'to people the judges of what should be the tim--| bermen of the Proyince, peop ber policy that they should adopt for | generally, it being well understood tha!' the preservation and perpetuation of | the people as a whole toc;}: :il n ches their timber resources, both for pur-- | Te naa ) ;.he' sl:;xatk:;.k e t o Te | poses of revenue and for the use of the& onl a tout e'acTon t er} t: ; ul people of the Province. (Applause.) | ff'lt ns T n| t\:ron otoo tefi 'mi'- They had planted themselves squarely | ermen's ssociation o !'\'a 0, in on that ground. If 'the matter is to| ":"Ch they, after adn evldentl tilf!eregce come up at the Quebec conference, is to o aring in "Mvor of frée ioks Iof free be brought up by eminent counsel, o | fia'gg' {ll avorhot' e;.hh ognflor : course the Government of Ontario inortrer t Ahkeh 6 ramdgr gae 0':' n{,'- would 'have notice, and the rights of ture <;'t heh p(flu(;rl\ and referred to the the Province--its right to legislate and fact that the American lumbermen were make regulations as far as law would g':lngq'tl:hbee reprtesented 6 4 gounls;l a': permit, and as far as constitutional | ':voeuld be l(:, c(r)'l'\b(;retnce. '& ?}a | authorities would enable them to do-- to ste thar the interests of the 'would be defended. (Applause.) That genf- o sce t ttt ;he n:iareet:'o the was where they stood at present. There rovince were looked after by com-- was a difference of opinion, as Mr.] imftent persons at that conference. There Whitney had pointed out, even among | l';\%gn(;lood 23"3:) t:;latmtht(;ls:irgent-lemetg those. who were the most urgent in | ld ith th i oC . mmiuk a connection with the presentation of the | 0o away w e legislation passe asure which becams law last session. | last session, or at any rate to get some me 5 h did not himself claim | equivalent for the injury which from The "em'e'_"h (ever might have been | their point of view they claimed to ""'d"i m{he" :set\svith The bill, or for bave been done. He therefore urged done in i i nor the bringing down of as many papers any special individual s"g'g'?t Otnt{at it bearing on the subject as was in the did he assent to the proposit m} r hon power of the Attorney--General, and as $s P eP en ns {'f'"ufiut%'; hon. | far as his discretion would allow. gf;'r:]'figg"t' ooEotFl}m'e h,;\':?teer in hand, and | Mr. Hardy's Reply. the lumbermen passed resol('i'tlontxs«SQBi':\tx; hemselves on record, 8 € Mr. Hardy, in reply, again referred i\'.','\'i,e'tfe; very largely stood, and they to the confldential nature of the cor-- themselves perhaps only repeated respondence or negotiations and said what could be called the dormant senti-- he was not at liberty at this time to ment which was awaiting only the 0C-- bring it down. While not enterin'g fully casion to give it volce, to make it Into the question, he thought he would speak, simply because they could | f be justified in bringing a few matters all see what had taken pliace. | Mr.| | 1 | relating to the question to the atten-- | Hardy then discussed the history of the | t3 lti»on of the House, and he intimated commercial relations between Ontario | t that John M. Dickinson, of Lansing, and the States in the matter of logs | <

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