The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 9 Mar 1899, p. 3

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120 Mr. -- Pattullo corrected Mr. Whit-- nev's remarks by stating that he had in his Gesk a resolution passed by the Town Council of Woodstock approving of bis resolutions, the only fault found with him. being that he had not gone far enough. Continuing, Mr. Whitney expressed regret that the Government had not adopted a definite policy . and taken Mr. Whitney said the greater portion of the hon. gentleman's speech had been a condemnation of the policy of his political friends for some years up-- on the tonus: question. Personally he was opposed to the resolution The Goverrment had, he asserted, some years ago introduced legislation strik-- ing at the bonus system from political motives, and for the purpose of strik-- ing at the policy of protection in Can-- ada. The law prohibiting bonusing had been broken immediately after it was passed, when a special act was passed in the case of Strathroy, and that bill had opened the door for all the other acts that came afterwards. He bad noticed that the Town of Wood-- stock was not in accord with the views of the mover of the resolution. After recess Mr. Pattullo continued the debate. The ery that he was taking away the rights of municipalities he characterized as mock heroics, and pointed out that he was only asking the House to adhere to and enforce the Mr. Pattullo belioved that further dis-- cussion would do good.-- He recognized the great divergences of opinion in the House, and that it would with the amendments before them be rather dif-- ficult for members to know how to vote. He also recognized that the matter is complicated by the action of some munricipalities which hon. members re-- present, and which now have bills be-- fore the House to confirm their bonus by--laws. law which is now upon the books of the House. Respecting the interests of New Ontario, he asserted his desire to see that portion of the Province opened up and developed, but denied that the bonus system was essential to its development. 'Taking up the case of Toronto, to which reference had been made, ho pointed out that. that city had no special powers whatevoer in regard to aidin#@ industries that are not enjoyed by other municipalities. act mignt ve introaucea »y gle_uov- ernment or by a private member deal-- ing with this question. If the House were to arrive at any definite conclusion upon the propositions before them it would be better to have a resolution framed with a little more regard to the exact situation, so that it would ex-- press more clearly the desires of the House. Therefore he suggested that the resolution be withdrawn and intro-- duced in some other form at the next session. Mr. Carscallen ligent vote could resolution as it moreover, a vote mean anything. Mr. Whitney suggested that the House express itself upon the resolu-- {)l(ms as they were without further 4e« ate. % At 6 o'clock the House adjourned. Against Protection. After Recess. assei not l in it ed that an intel-- + given upon the ore the House: favor would not action in "the matter. | He was person-- ally in favor of the bonus system with all which it implied, and he was also in favor of it without any restriction, on the ground that the municipalities should be at liberty to act as they de--| sired. He would never be a party to any legislation or expression of opin-- icn to the effect that his fellow--citi-- zons gare not to be entrusted with the use of their own property as they saw fit -- He also disapproved of any inten-- tion to prevent in the future any citi--. zen from petitioning the Legislature as proposed by the amendment. Mr. Gibson's Views. | Hon. Mr. Gibson thought the princi-- ple of unanimity should be present in the case of a bonus granted by the rate-- payers. He admitted the strength of the contention that an industry would be a good thing for a town and would employ operatives, but, nevertheless, there ought to be a preponderance of sentiment when a bonus was proposed. Mr. Whitney--Hear, hear. Mr. Gibson--The hon. gentleman says "hear, hear," any yet he approves of an amendment which requires the ap-- proval of only a fraction of the rate-- payers. The amendment only called W = & 14 Je @uis s iss might not be a vote. -- That was tection. Mr. -- Carscallen, interrupting, said two--third sof the total vote was call-- ed for by Dr. McKay's amendment, but on being corrected by the mover, said the hon. gentleman had misled the House. Hon. Mr. Hardy called the Speaker's attention to the expression, and the lat-- ter expressed his condemnation of it. Mr. Speaker repeated his remarks made on a former occasion, that members were guilty of a breach of Parliament-- ary etiquette in addressing one an-- other, and said such proceedings would no longer be allowed. Hon. Mr. (GGibson, continuing, express-- ed the opinion that the sentiment of the House was. against saddling on the ratepayers of any municipality the lia-- bility for a bonus on a mere majority ity vote. It was not impossible to se-- cure a two--thirds vote of the qualified ratepayers on money by--laws ; such a provision would secure an undoubted expression of opinion before a by--law carried. The system: of, bonus--hunting was a vicious one, and could not be toon sirongly condemned. o When all the bonus bills sought for this session were examined it would Ix»seen that some of them were in grave violation of the principle laid down hy . the Legislature, and the safeguards provided by it. That violation should ndt be permitted, let the consideration be, what it may. What the Premier Said. Hon. Mr. Hardy nonvinded the House | of the position he had atways taken up, which was that they should not enact a law that would preveht the granting of a bonus by a anutmicipality under any and every oireums@tancoe. Where : a municipality on acddunt of special | circumstances,: fire beifig one, applied | to the Legislature, it ghou!ld be accorded | the opportunity of making out a case, and, if proper, fecuring the right to grant a bonus. That bad_ been his opinion in the past, and hs held the same opinion still; He therefore thought ¢° iha wata nact whiah fifth of the qualified no safeguard or pro--

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