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' f,',,',',',',; Mr. Ttoi-Xt-ei" . Com-l Consultative Comm. m as oner. _ - 20 Mr. m... mere m... . I "r2ttitve"l?le,fii,itttee,grtg'dafit'i Hon. Mr. Rotur-'-'rhe mutttt "a" at- that he had changed iiiro inion The tached to that position just as in thel o osition leader had 1fl)d'lllf in Ad- case of the Fisheries Commissioner Je,",.") Committee ilhlll' Mr Rtss fa- 9 now. Supposing I brought in a bill to , . . f " vored a Consultative Committee. There have a commissioner of Mine. ap- was a rest difference between the two pointed. " I brought in such a bill as' terms "i' Advisory Board' was one that the conclusion would be that every . p , . . . . to give advice; a Consultative Com- terson who voted for' that resolution itt . that i ht b it wtu' opposed to the appointment of a "(11 " was (men Mini g e comm 'l . Minister of Mines. e or not, as t e, n ster thought fit. In England in 1393 an Advisory Board, The Education Policy. was proposed in connection with thie: Mr. Whitney had went a seed deal 'tt2ct,t2ut'1l'tJgTi1tuPtLtrorth of time discussing the subject of edu- was brought in for Gl appointment of cation, but he had told them nothing a Consultative Committee The word new, nothing that required to be an- "advisory" was eliminated and during swered 8s'O tar " he could see; The the discussion it was pointed out that Wrvernment ht1,Hytelt.d his Obj?" the Minister might consult the com- tions on the subject over and over mittee or not, as he thought tit, and again. He took issue with Mr. Whit- that his responsibility was to be un- new, 'ttttl declared that the public. impaired. That could not be done un- ""00! system was complete. and that der an Advisory Board. hut it could it gave a well-rounded education to all be done under a Consultative Commit- who attended the public schools. Mr. tee That matter] was now occupying W'llitney disagreed with the Premier's the. attention of the d"iv"iraariC1.rari'.'. 'policy of making it a tepping-stono to ther the should have a Consultative ' ithe high schools. At,',"?,':':',' thou- Committze and how it should be - sand pupils went to the high schools. pointed ' up t'), 1"e, .'.'UT,' they to get their prepara- Taking up the timber question, Mr. ' my education if not in the public! tumtyols " It the 130 high trchoolt, were' Rotm showod that the claim of the blotted . out to-morrow. the public! Opposition to have invented the saw- school education would not matter in log policy now in force was not 'tot'- of", part . l r:c§.qq6Ashlong agtf) as the ii:nber sale .. t. . . . o CTi t e manu ac ur ng c ause. was r,ilt'i'a"odit,t,,'e,n,d tings 2sega2,',', 1"igll, 4n operation. 'and Mr. lMiscamplieil did partment and the university tor a great l not introduce his reso mum to cctupcl many vears. I am not aware of this) 'syd,')1,'/1'itte,'.'.e Il 82:32:31" sunnct/u,.reyt1T,' friction 'Pho did not always a ree . ' ' " ' ' . with my '.'i(-\\'r,yand do not agree with ": say that Hon. Mr. Gibson and the bib- V me now : but there was no friction. and i eials voted against the munutuctuNng is not now Some of the members otl clause. Their contention was that the the faculty were and are my Ittl manufacturing clause should not go In- friends. As Minister of Education I to operation until after the expiiation promoted m, advancement by every ot the then existing license year. means in my power. When I took The Premier then spoke upon the ne- . charge tgeventrett years as" the under- cessity of preserving the pine forests of . lgraduates numbered between 300 and Ontario, and referred to the steps that 400 : now they are between my) and were being taken In the way of refores- ].t)00. tlzation to accomplish that result. tit . might be that some measure mig it e I'he University and the State. devised for proceeding more slowly in "The hon. gentleman seems anxious the cutting of timber, ar, perhaps the that our university system should he lumbermen might he induced to co- divorced from all connection with the operate with the Government in that State. Is that the public feeling of regard. Possibly the pulpwood might this country ? This House is a delih- be preserved in the same way as the erative body, where we express not pine, by creating forest reserves, so as only our own views but those of the to get the largest possible revenue from ' different communities. I have never the former. . 2 heard a member of the faculty of the Such were the initiative policies the. university favor a separation from the Government were carrying out for the' control of the Government. I could good of the country in regard to pulp- count on the fingers of one hand all wood, nickel, retoreatising and coloni- the alumnae of Toronto University that Ration. Another item was the pro- have ever expressed that opinion tome. posed exploration of the territory north I have never seen any body of gradu- of the Canadian Pat.Mc Railway to- ates endorsing that view. If that be ward Hudson Bay, ' . the view ot the country I would like They contended It was a new Gov- very much to know it. If the univer- ornament, but the Opposition said they eity is hampered by its political con- must not flatten themselves by that nection, then let that connection cease pleasing illusion. It was not material by all means. The political connection whether " was new or not. The Gov- should not stand if the prosperity of ernment had addressed itself to those the university i8 crippled. 1 do not be- new questions with new vigor, and had lieve it is hampered. I do not know to-day, he believed, the confidence ot anybody who would give a boom-St to the country. topposition laughter.) [ the university if it were separated N from the State. I do not know any- A Vigorous Government. Vbody who was appointed to it because "The Government " Mr. Ross went iof.his political views." (Applause.) on, "have the confidence of the people.l I We. have not so large 'a majority " 1