The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 12 Mar 1903, p. 6

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, .... . '_.' .. is proves t at the gentleman - mice, but be willing to accept for knew there was some reason to The Caron Case. heir trial. So much for that point. expect that the hon. member for M.an.i- True it is that in the Caron case .at . toulin was not thought of as a straight Ottawa, alter long and protracted dis- " State Prosecution. Conservative. (Applause.) Because we pute, in which several points of. differ-' It is to be also, we are told, a State all know, and nobody knows it better ence came up, a royal commission 1va.s rosectuion. A State prosecution for- than the Commissioner. that largerlissued. Now, I do mat care.w.hat is 001113 Isn't it a goiod thing, perhaps, grants for these appropriations are Isaid about the Caron commission; I t rom some points oi view, that we are gwetrto Government supporters 1lyy [do not care whether ir2tei'tttter, t iving in an advanced stage of the are given to members of the OBBOEKIM "tht'"' t'1Tffd 'Q"'I.".( Awith vurld. because if we carry our mem- tion. to do with (our present 301519 mm" ories back and our remllections of One of the Letters. regard.to tthnst Eattfrri'eiid 113542; "had s mistory, strange thoughts will come Let me come to a more important ttiodotto1ctehottr'1u1d, consult the authori- adore o.u.r minds tr.o-diyy when we are member of the Government. (Laugh- . l t d because the manner in C old in this, the beginning of the twen- _ .- l b tIts, 1e quo c , " - , . . ter.) I wish to read from The G o e 4 1 . k f them shows that he ieth century, by the illustrious Pre- . , .1 . l of the which 1e SPO , 0 '. . , a portion, a very "on extract ' reral im oortant considerations iner. that we are to have a State pro- , " :--"I w n to To- ory.tt.s se1 . 1 . . _ . - l . speech of Mr. Gamey e t h .1 . r involved m Its considera ieCuttOn, The accused are to prosecute ronto again about Oct. gist, and met W 1Cll we f, fi . l . the hon gen- t hemselves before a tribunal nominat- (Captain Sullivan at North Bay, spoke tion. In tjc] fit] p 1eaeit), to have this n d try themselves. (Applause.) By iio him about the rumors that were go- I"??? says T, le '21: once IN werweening kindness and good ieelingliu: around. and told him I was going investigation t can?" this Lririsuture r non. gentlemen who made the charges (to see Stratton in the city. _I saw I He /1asnt/', Ilircc weeks Ire wants to are to be graciously permitted to beiStra.ttor) that week in his office, and Power?" otrh will of the cople of!" represented by counsel. [590]": t?.hirp about the rumors, and 8ei"2,"'tf: tit e weeks aiEd in the T In the first place the accused (showed him Sullixan's lettersrand told Ontario 01"] f, . in": ma . be e are to choose the tribunal. Inihim Sullivan had been talking. Helmeant1me wno hows " 3, s . . . _ , . . . d dis- done or what might be undone! I the second place, It is a iu/ri:rs,e/i-iiii,'iy,.",'iiii,. to wait until.lie woul IS k . . that the co le of this a tion bv themselves of themselves.lcuss 1t with the Premier. _.\Iyers took ta .e.....1 Ira ld tl o iigostp sur orise- m Search the we" of historv. get downime to. a room and I waited there a ProuiiceI WI V)C if; ii l? iilis t from the shelves all the law reports longtime until Stratton came. and hv. ed 1,""i'i" l (in :11: 3ch Ont'rriob S from everv civilized "mm". in the said we had better do nothing about earth} y. t C 1981:": 15.720" the I 06: ol world whatever mav be the nature of them. ".6 said that was the Premier s the L 1Cyset2 represen a 1'. S p . . . ' " _ ;,, advice. Stratton also spoke of a letter. ple, take upfln themselves to say we tne procedure. and I (let) the Produc- .. g ",.,. 7 ,. ' _ l' d T c. - g n , . . the exact duplicate of the other I had will voluntarily shut ourse yes up, an ion oi such an ot1trogtrotis proposition! . ,1 " icl tl 'a t , t k ltake awa from ourselves all power of"?! as the hon. gentleman has dared toimgna' , 11Cl1 iey "-n Ct me O ta ce . ' y _ a '. f tl idr take to-dav to the Legislature of the i.l,1,eyt 1yjth me and Sign at GO)": Bay iactmn of the rne,pCiest111aet10e'iid), Si If te Province of Ontario. (Applause.) We .and mail, addressed to the Premier, ipeople for. a term 0 three wee s. Ir, - M Hon. (no. W. Ross. Stratton gave me can promise this, that the hon. gentle hi Wm the letter typewritten, in which I men of the House will have an opp.or" 2:1 _ . agreed that I would support the Gov- 'tunity of showing by their votes Just b ' Ca' ernment and that I was getting no con- [whether they are prepared to take that lt i sideration for the same, only the ordiir action or not. (Opposition applause.) 3! a ary privileges ol_a Government sup-) _ 1 M porter. After this they were to give From Day to Day. fi', . um nsf,bac,1,c, the one I Signed 11t the lar, What harm can arise if we met and a 'l yer s olhce. Frank Sullivan was with ladiourned from day to dav or adjourn to "j)' me when the letter was given, in fact " .eek at a time a W'hat possible .C .a- he held the letter for a day. Itookit lor a IN . rhat Ix enseti will ac- m V home with me, and we decided at Gore 'chTdat1lrlss1',e1rvl11te,e/t por'tobthe peo- af t?» fetyertotomt,cee isi'"l1) altc{aiions m the ple of the Province, or the members . l" F could get a letter f tl Government or what reason 5' - from them about the same, so I alter- 0 1e"; C' - ki . of _ ed the letter and made it read differ- can possibly be gneii tor YI mg this st ent to what they had." procedure. except this, that the Gov- m I go further down the page. where eminent do not want to be compelled re , he tells about having gone to Toronto at any time during the n.ext. three a .4. after. he had been in the Perth ble- 1w?!" l/ye- and Teet the .leirislap.ors m a, election. "I saw the Sullivans and they ft the Province ot Ontario. (Ap- F .f'. said Stratum wanted to see Ji,ir-i/elplyye.) . . it ill was getting afraid of me since I had; Aow, then, I might say right_her,e th If. gone up to Perth. lmade an appoint- [mm regard to my hon. friend's no ' & ment to see him on Tuesday morning, Ithreat WW." the hon. member fr." A Jan. 13, at 9.30. When I arrived there il\lanitoulin. it strikes me that it did te tat he was not in, and I waited in the (not become the. hon. gentlemanlSc I outer ofhce. Vance was waiting there. I:,',?,,?:,.), he occasionally does that, ev .' , Myers was there, and another clerk, Iformerly he did not. We are all here tri a name unknown to me, and the ladv 'quual on the floor of this House-lap- 1st.enog.raploy. They all saw me. f ; plause)--although we do not appreciate mi V Bl chatted wi.tllmce until Stratton was , what our fate would be under the hon. Sni " ready. and l mice asked me to let him l gentlemen were it 200 years back of the hm 'l, go m first, which I did. He remained present. (Laughter.) He has simply cor f about twenty mluutes. the liberty of this House on this fhror s , . just the same as any other hon. gen- Res Ty, Was it Altered ? l tleman, and when the hon. member for IT. Ill 'When I was called Stratton asked Manitoulin yesterday got up in his Mir , I me v,hy I Has in Perth, and I told I place in this House and gave a resume the r W/ly. I had ll" "F'refrnuent with him be- of his own action he produced the do- cha Il fore the Voting in the House. He ask- icuments and substantiated the state- sou , ed why Iliad altered the letter." What ment. (Applause.) gro . i5 letter f.. [be letter addressed to Ross. i, the , }IOW lid iirattoliilknow about it ? (Ap- 1 Spoke as a Member. whi _ 'El pause. ow (it Stratton know li . _ . . , l . the letter had been given lllllCiatllfié The most important point ihat he inéi't'l El DersOn to whom it was addressed or offered, he offered as a member of C r '_-. some other person had shown it to'tl"S H.ouse. He would not a"). 1tlwi' M , hjm and shown that there were altera, (otherwise. (Renewed iipplnause.), "m'Fra tions? hon. member for Manitoulin nor 7ny- fire _ l I leave that and pass on lor a mo- body who thin.ks. with him will be con . ment, merely reminding yourself, sir, swerved by one hair by any threat of dos Cg as J go on that what I said before was (the Premier as to what he can or will the strictly correct. namely, that the Secrc- do. tApplyvs.e.) Now, then, I have .I Pry.' IS tly; only one who uttered anv cshown conclusively three points: first, cor denial, While the Other hon. p,entiemi, 'r-------------------------------------- wa,' i have sat in their seats, knowing whatl (Continued on Page 5.) _ this , _

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