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Sn tss on c e n in h PRPSy: . cincial Secretary. (He asked, why Mr.; ~Stratton 'had not on. 'the day the | | charges vere made stood up and point-- | ed out what portions of the statement | \were -- "malignant fiction," and what \part "harmless facts." Instead he had | sat in the House --for weeks without 'saying~ anything. _ The truth would stand telling at any place at any time. No wonder the people. believed him guilty, and no wondet" m;}'&'ly people still --believed him 'guilty. _ Why didn't t'he deny the st'atc'mcmt_s? + 4* t Es' i | A Supposititious Guilt. ETC Mn e 0C hasah n Mr.: Ross said Mr.--~Stratton chad de-- nied the accusations to his leader, which was the proper,. course. (Applause.) Mr. _ Lucas: continued :--The « Gov-- ernment had all the same _ mo-- tive in securing the support of Gamey. 1i -- criminal ° proceedings . had been taken and the case-- referred to this House as a jury, the Provincial Secre-- tary would not have been to--day oc-- cupying his seat in the jury box. The case had been looked upon as a crime ; the most eminent. criminal lawyers had been.retained, and Mr. Johnston --said they were charged with a crime. |__Mr. Stratton corrected Mr. Lucas, | saying that Mr. Buckingham's evidence was that he saw them leaving Mr. ICofl'cc's office and g'oini{l into the board room. Neither of these gentlemon jsaid that he saw them leaving the _ The House rose at hve minutes to 1 o'clock. f Searching For Mistakes. Mr. Lucas resumed his speech .at 3.135 o'clock. He,. asked what the Ipurpu:'e of the Alyesworth interview" could be. Was it not to disarm 'sus-- picion by having the deal go through the hands, of so eminent a counsel ? From be@®nning to end the commis-- sioners had faifed to submit in their report all the -- surrounding circum-- stances on the subject, but gad charg-- ed.the jury favorably. to the Provincial Secretary. _ On page 22 of their re-- |'port the Judges said : "It is to be not-- led 'that Mr. Gamey deposited $900 in the forenoon of September i1th." If that were so the prosecution were out of court, for Mr. Gamey had said that it was deposited in the afternoon. _ Mr. Lucas then discussed the evi-- dence regarding hour of the deposit of |$900 in g)e Ontario Bank on Septem-- ber 11. t _ Mr. Stratton--Where is the slhip ? | 'Mr. Lucas--"Never mind. Do not \try to sidetrack me, and get out in that way." This was not the issue. If Mr. Gamey -- and Mr. Stratton wanted to throw dirt at one another Iperhaps they would have an opportun-- ity to do so, and Mr. Gamey would lbe"well able to take care of him-- | self. Mr. Lucas asked them to assume for argament that the 'Provincial Sec-- retary was ready to buy Gamey. How would he be able to insist upon| Gamey "delivering the goods"? He] took the best stens he could to that end by obtaining Mr. Gamey's lcttcr.l He did cvery-thini in fact that was con-- sistent with a theory of his being guilty. __ » _ Mr. Stratton--You forget that Mrs Crossin says that Mr. Gamey depos-- ited the money in the forenoon. Mr. Whitney asked whether Mr. Stratton was reading from the prin'ed evidence, and the latter replhied that he had about 1000 pages of it. . Mr. Whitney commented that he supposed he would get a copy at the last mo-- ment. 5 That Deposit Slip. The report said that Mr. Bucking-- ham saw Mr. Stratton and Mr. Bo-- land at the Trust Company's office at about 11 o'clock, on September 11, and he leit them there. Had they said that Stratton and Boland left. Bucking-- ham there it would have been nearer the truth, for the last he saw of them was when they were leaving the office. Mr. Lucas, continuing, said the Judges again on page 24 said that Gamey changed is recollection as to who carried the money parcel, at the instance of Sullivan: 'Fhat was not a fair way to put it.© It was not a matter of recolYection, but one of un-- certainty. Alibi Defence. Deposit Slip. Pro-- Mr. Lucas----"No, but account -- for iou.' f wished to make was th did not make a fair rep said that Mr. Buckinfir Stratton and-- Mr. C Trust Company's office. ton had continued: in hi _ _ _ One minute the Opposition said the Judges went too far, and the next minute they said they did not go far cnough. At any rate, the report was satisfactory to the Liberals, and would be accepted by the country as a finali-- ty. It was true there had been a few verbal slips in the report, but they were of no consequence whatever in regard to the main issue, and his hon. friend | should be above referring to them. |Compared to a She Bear. \ _ In resuming ~in the evening, Mr. | Cameron remarked that Mr. Whitney's \speech had made cup in vitupéra-- |tion -- what it lacked in argu-- ment. --The loyalty© of the Tory party -- out of offce© could never be counted upon,, and, as Joe Rymal | used to say, "a she--bear was not more \icmcious than a Tory out of office." | The Judges would live down the ire | of Mt. Whitney; they were too high sln_ be injured by a man of the calibre of the leader of the Opposition.© The Chancellor had not commended Frank Sullivan's evidence; on the contrary, he had linked Sullivan's name with Ga-- ;mey's. The Government did not call |the Judges to 'their assistance, but 'they called them to get at the truth. | (Applause.) <~Mr. Blake had had per-- | fect confidence in the decisions the Judges would give. The people would punish these men for their outrageous |attacks con. the (J)ndges. (Opposition laughter.) The Opposition had at first { B Caid the. scope of the commission was not wide--enough; but later on, when it was proposed to investigate the Campi\l&lnv funds, they, thought it was too wide.. Mr. Donald Sutherland had been marched around the Province as an example of the men whom the Lib-- erals tried to bribe--a man who only escaped disqualification by the skin of his teeth, when he would have been {:rcventqd from -- being even pound-- keeper in lus own town. t ~Mr. Whitney had:said not a word l'of Gamey's dbsconding, the mutilation ' of the cash book, or the episode with the deposit slips. It was a principle of law, and was admitted by Mr. Bl:ifie. that the burden of proof was on the accuser, and in this case there was not a tittle of corroborative evidence. The lf);')posi.tior!'}xcrc not satisfiqg'd, but tl:e The Speaker said he did not know where he would begin if he called every bon. member to order for using un-- parliamentary language. -- There had been wide latitude allowed in the dis-- cussion, which the very nature of it made unavoidable, but occasionally a member would say something he should not say.. He had no doubt the hon. ]member for Huron ~(Mr. Cameron) | would say he should not have used the expression common liar. He had an-- | ticipated trouble, but he hoped such words as liar and thief would not be used any more in the discussinn Liberals < did: not care. _ The people would pass judgment, and their opin-- ion would agree with that of the com-- missioners. -- Mr. Gamey had written in the interview that he would support the Government "in matters he-- was satishied with." Anyone on the Oppo-- sition side could promise that without interrupting his party allegiance; and yet it was said, forsooth, that Stratton was fool enough to give $1,000 for i. And Mr. McGregor, who. was brought down especially to help get evidence, was never 1E)Ut in the witness box. (Ap-- plause.) Ar. Cameron asked if the evidence of such a creature as Gamey would be effective in consigning to ob-- livion a young man like the Provincial Secretary, who had risen from the bot-- tom of the ladder almost to the top. Mr. Whitney said that he. did not| object to the language used, because he | thought that the Provincial Secretary | and the member for Manitoulin could| 1not make their speeches satisfactorily | to themselves without using such lan--' Iguage. He thought it would have, \been improper to interfere with the , Provincial Secretary, and if the hon.. member for Manitoulin were given the: [same liberty no objection could be (made. _ Under that consideration, and | with the ruling of the Speaker, he |thought that there would be no fur-- |ther trouble. Some Names Called. His accuser, the man who had posed as a patriot, was only a common liar. The Opposition hoped to attain 0{-- fice by clinging to the skirts of a de-- generate, who had leit himsel{ open to the charges of larceny, perjury and forgery. -- _ daly w j Mr. St. John raised a point of or-- der as to whether such language was permissible. _ _The Premier said the force and pith of the hon. gentleman's words had been embodied in the report of the Judges. used any more in the discussion. Mr. C);meron said he had much plea-- sure in bowing to the Speaker's rul-- ing. _ He had intended to convey the meaning that Mr. <~Gamey by his course of action had left himsel! open to that charge. Open the Gates Wide. Dr. Beattie Nesbitt, who -- followed Mr. Cameron, criticized the commis-- sioners' report for the statement, "which they made flat--footed and with-- _out=--equivocation." that Mr. Gamey Mr. Cameron, continuing, referred to some of the triumphs of the Lib-- eral party, and concluded with an elo-- quent tribute to the Premier, saying to the leader of the Opposition that he would be a fortunate man if he was as successful a leader as Mr. Ross, who had not been surpassed by any Liberal leader in this Province. Mr. Cameron was warmly congratu-- lated by his Liberal friends when he resumed his seat at 9.35 o'clock, Dr. Nesbitt's Criticisms. .