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being made for additional grants for hospitals and for asylums and for other nceds, and he thought the #iniversity people should pause a little while other matters were adjusted. In reply to Mr. Whitney's remark about contra-- dictory statements regarding the rev-- enue, the Premier said that on one oc« casion he had referred to the ordinary annual revenue, ard on the other to the abnormal revenue resulting from receipts of $3,000,000 from a sale of tim-- ber. _ He also asserted that politics had had nothing whatever to do with ap-- pointments to the university staff. As to what had been said regarding the President of the university, he wanted to know if university professors were 'The Premier asked the House to look for a moment at the treatment the uni-- versity had reseived from the Govern-- \ ment. -- In 1886 he himself had introduc-- ed a bill for the confederation of Vie toria with the Provincial University. It had been heartily supported on broad grounds by Sir Wm. Meredith, then lead-- er of the Opposition. Mr. Whitney, the Premier remarked, by way of compari son, was mentally and constitutionally unable to take a large view of any sub-- 'Jvct. What was the broad viow-of t!lii | question ? It was that the university :was one of a great family of increasing t Provincial interests, all of which had to be conserved. The -- demands, for in-- stance, of the public schools were in-- 'creasing. The public schcool population | in Ontario was 500,000, and the Govern-- | ment grant to public school education amounted on an average to 50 cents a head. The high school population was 23,000, and the Government aid amount-- ed to $5 a head. To the university, with lits 600 undergraduates, the aid amounted lto $200 a head. Of course the university |education was very much more expen-- sive, but it was to be remembered also that the university could not do its| | best work if the high and public schools | lwere not well maintained. 'Then there| was technical education in the interest of | the 300,000 artisans of the Province, for | which the Government was doing some-- | thing, but not as much as it ought. The | grant this year was $25,000. The Normal | School, for the improvemnt _ of public , school teachers, required $70,000, and : there were 10,000 teachers in the Pro--; vince. The grant to poor schools was' 350,000, to aid education in the unor--' ganized districts, for the children of the j | settlers who took their lives in their hands and faced disadvantages and in~' Icum'emenms in extending the bounds of! civilization. What a trifling sum it was"® 'The Government could not give to a]l' claimants as it would wish,. It had tot divide the total available as fairly as possible. The Government gave 370,000' to agricultural education, and $96.000 to the university. The division of the re--| sources available had to be made with | regard to the industries, the development | and the future of the country. _ The foundations of the country rested not on one or two brilliant products of the uni-- versity, but upon the masses, upon whose broad shoulders rested the gov-- ernment of the country ; not upon the few, but upon the great multitude who earned their bread by the sweat of theitr brows. _ The Premier hoped that Mr. Whitney would take a broad view of the question, and that university men wou'ld appreciate the situation and not defeat| | their own ends. } The Premier _ explained somewhat more fully than Hon. Mr. Harcourt had his reply to the university deputation. The Provincial grants to education were now more than three times what they were thirty years ago. -- Demands were Rtemagogic speech. _ Mr. Whitney had changed his position, the Premier said, within a few years. -- Then it was the public schools for which he had heen pleading. He had then declared that the liavernmment was neglecting the public schools, the only means of education for 95 per cent. of the population, for the , university. He had appealed against the; Government to that constituency for | several years, including a couple of gen--} eral elections. Now he appealed to the | 5 per cent. Probably he thought they were more influential in politics. _ The Premier could see no other motive in the speech just delivered. What the Governmeut Has Done. Some Explanations. A was Dr. Macal to show that ment. he expl dent Dr. Mac no further offensive -- words wolud Do used. Mr. St. John at length condermed siub-- sidies to railways. and argued for pub-- lic partnership and ownership. A Duty to the Province. Mr. Stock said that, though he had made it a rule never to endorse any man's paper, he came to the conclusion that this proposal was a good one, and he would not do his duty to the Pro-- vince if he did not support it. _ In the first place, he believed that the scheme was safe for the Province, basing his belief on the character of the securities offered. _ Taking the items one by one and accepting them at the reduced vaiu-- t ations which the Opposition claimed for them, he showed that there was still over $3,500,000 as security for the $2,000,000 loan. Besides, there were the bonds of the company, so that there would be more than double the loan. _ The proposal, in the second place, was desirable not only for Sault Ste, Maric, but for the whole Province. _ In his own business he felt the impulse given to trade by the development at the "8oo." -- If the proposal was not ad-- opted there would be years of litiga-- tion, deprcciation of plant, loss of con-- fidence by capitalists in Canada and re-- tarding of development. The following bills were read a third time : --To amend the university act, re specting the Thunder Bay. Nepigon & St. Joe Railway, respecting the Town of To ronto Junction, to amend the Ontario insurance act, to smend the volunteer land grant act, to amend the hill respect-- ing the Education Department. At 10.55 Mr. Whitney said he had re-- ceived information that the Queen's Hotel, in which many members lived, was on fire and suggested the adjournment ofi the House. Mr. c'Smyth (Al'goma) said that his duty was first to the Province and then to the district which he represented. Ho denied the statement that there was a general demand in the northern district for this proposal, and said that out of 50 letters he had received on the sub-- ject only one endorsed the bill. _ The people of Ontario should not be asked to pay $2,000,000 to satisfy some poli-- tical grafters who are interested in the bill. Not one dollar from Canadian banks was going into the scheme, though the President of one bank was named as manager of the new company. s claimed that 100 mines and prospects worked by 100 miners and prospecters would be better for the country than the same area operated by one company. The Premier at once adopted the sug-- gestion, and the House adjourned. 001. f*