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Mr. Whitney', Charge. Mr. Whitney said it was reckless- Pl" run mad. They had not had one Jot or Itittle of information given to them with relation to this grant. There had nerer been' such an outrageous propomtion submitted to the House. as Piss one. Did the Government think it could. compel the Grand Trunk to remain ll] leading strings and re. peat what was done, in North Perth? It might be that the Premier thought that by some pocus poeus he could bring on a dissolution and go to the country with the support of the Dom- inion Alliance, the liquor men from top to bottom, the James May Com- Hay and the Grand Trunk Company. No other reason than this could be imagined. "t venture to say, and 1 am prepared to stand by it, that the lGraml Trunk Railway Company never tasked for this grant. 1 stop there, éprepared to go on at some future Pimp whenever it may be suggested as it iS now suggested that my statement is not _ correct." Mr. Whitney concluded by :moving that the grant of 82.000 per 'mile and 6,000 acres per mile for the line from Thunder Bay to the interme- tion of the Grand Trunk I'aeitie , be struck out. Necessary For Ontario. as uupossmw to put a, value on lands so far remote from transportstion. Mr. Hanna retorted that they were asked to put through a. very important piece of legislation without' any information to enable them to give a reasonable vote. it was proposed to give away 6.000 acres of land per mile, and the Premier could not say whether it was worth fifty cents or five dollars per acre. ft was paternalism or some other ism run mad. T _ _'," are'uuer Th, inqiiriiaibii, to put a so far remote from trans Hanna retorted that th to put through a very i of legislation Without 9-1 Mr. Uomnee said this was a line to connect the Grand Trunk Paciiie with navigation on the great lakes. It was thoroughly in the interests of On- tario to reach out and tap that line in order that the grain and other pro- duets of the west might come down into the cities and towns of the Prov-" ince. The line was necessary if tho trade of the west was not to be car- ried away from Ontario. Mr. Hugh Clark asserted that; there was not a shadow of excuse for the grant. It was a pure gratuity to tho Grand Trunk Paeitie to enable them to build a line in competition with the Temiskaming Railway, owned by the Province. Mr. Whitney-lt is more. important that North Perth should be carried. Insinuation Resented. Hon. Mr. Gibson resented the re- marks of the leader of the Opposition. "1 state on behalf of the Government and the Liberal party," he said, "that 5 we are a little larger and wider in! our views as to matters of public pol- l icy than to be influenced by the con- sideration of what elfect a measure may have on an individual constituency. 1 wonder if my hon. friend takes that View of important public matters as' they arise 'l 1 wonder if he has spent l the greater part of this session inl opposing a bill simply because the Soo was lost to the Opposition at a bye- election? (Applause.) The hon. gen- tleman stated with the greatest posi- tiveness that no request had been made for this subsidy. I deny it. 1 as- sert, on the other hand, that absolute- ly positive requests have been made by those in authority in interviews with the Government; doputations have been in the Council chamber over and over again, urging that this grant be made." They could not have too many branch l lines if Ontario was to get the full bene- _ tit of the Grand Trunk Paeifie. The; value of the land granted would be sim- _ ply the value that would be..imptrrtel, to it by the building of the railways. It .bad absolutely no value at the present'; time. He was prepared to stake his ', political reputation on the statement that no better tttet,",', could tre, made of the lands t t f0 ' ed the sub- ject of this subsidy. ir,'i?,'i?siii'riiiir,, , had not been rngueneed n making thiai nrnmnnl In any consideration other', jectu'oFthis subsidy. had not been rntiuety pzogosgl by an: co mitted to the House as I the Government think ol the Grand Trunk loading strings and re. n it Hon. Mr. Gibson said that he had not heard from any law association any de- imand for reform in the last few years. "rho. bill which he introduced four years ago applied to the higher courts rather than to the lower. He thought that as a result of the presentations-ot deputa- l tions and of the Iepreeatory course of} the Opposition he had better withdraw the bill for the time being,. Since then :there was no demand for law reform. iThc motion was lost on division. thunftttrijis,ft. interests of thtJ?rovjnqii. _ '1'tte/,U'rismi'ini' also spoke of the (t portance of the road, and the ame _ - merit was declared lost on division. _ on the statement of the Attorney-Gen- eral four years ago, that at the next session he would introduce a. compre- hensive measure of reform regarding County and Division Courts. Ho de- elated that the people of this Province would not wait much longer for a sim- plification of methods and reduction ot expenses. to that contained in the Dominion agreement with the Grand Trunk Pacific be inserted, in this bill, to provide that in the event of the Province' taking over the road at any time the amount of the subsidy should be deducted from the purchase price. The Premier saw no objection to the amendimint, and the clause was therefore inserted. The bill was then given its third read- Mr. Whitney had stwiiiJiidraTmsnd.. Peet.. _He moved that a similar clause Mr. Matheson remarked that the to. tal expenditure for the year was $5,- 305,000, which was $1,600,000 larger than in 1899, when Hon. Mr. Ross be- came Premier and Treasurer. The to- tal receipts were $5,624,000, of which 81,500,000 came from the sale of timber limits, leaving a normal revenue of $4,- 124,000. There was, therefore, a de- ticit of 81,180,000, notwithstanding all the increased taxation. The Premier protested against the figuring which imposed such a distress- ing burden. They had heard for years predictions of direct taxation, and still the people were thoroughly comfortable, jolly and happy, and Canadians were never more prosperous. The Gamey Case. Mr. G-amey moved that the House re. grets the payment to Chancellor Boyd and Chief Justice Faleonbridge of $3,- 500, being at the rate of $125 per day for twenty-seven days, while they were in receipt of pay as Judges of the High Court. He thought there was some- thing sinister in regard to it. Their payment was not arranged for until after the work was done. If it appear- ed satisfactory they were to be paid. Hon. Mr. Gibson said that the- cal- culation of $125 per day was not cor- rect, for weeks had been spent in an- alyzing, classifying and digesting the evidence. The sum of 875 per day would be more like it. It was true the Judges were under salary, but that wy! no reason why they should not be paid for extra work. If they were paid at the rate of $75 per day it would be less than the eminent counsel received, namely, $100 per day. Eminent coun- sel were an expensive luxury nowadays. It was easy to charge that a bargain was made, but he thought no one else than the member who made it would attach much importance to it. The payment was amply justifiable under payment was amply Jusuname under the circumstances. Mr. Whitney agreed with Mr. Gamey that the payment was too high, and he hoped that this would sound the death knell of the use by the Government of the judiciary for such purposes. The motion was lost on division. In supply a number of amendments on items which had been discussed from time to time were made by. the Oppo- sition and declared lost on division. One of them was to reduce by 810,000 the price of the.land for the London Asy- lum. Hon. Mr. Stratton remarked that the adjoining property had been sold for utes to 6, and the House aiijariiii {nth Tuesday at 3 p.m., when the formal pro- rogation will take place. . Hon. Mr. Stratton remarked that it was understood that the House might reconsider next session anything pre- judicial to the public interest. The third reading was carried at a few min- Amidst, disorder and interruptions, amendments large both in number and in quantity were added in committee. Some of them were agreed to by Mr. Jennison and the towns of Port Arthur and Fort William, and others were strongly opposed by the promoter. What the net effect will be, on the bill can hardly be determined until the amend- ments are all printed and studied. 1 The famous Jennison bill for the pos- session of the KuminiBtiquia water- ?power was the last item on the pro- gramme, and it led to a two hours' dis- cussion. Hon. Mr. IIarcourt,-- who mov- ed the second reading, said that he did so in the absence of the promoter, Mr. Cameron (Fort William), and without 'committing himself to the principle of (it. He despaired at the present stage 30f the'seesion of doing justice to all"t1ie isuggested amendments. Dr. Ndsbitt's six months' hoist was then defeated by 11 yeas to 28 nays, and the bill was read a second time. The Premier expressed regret that Mr. Conmee did not say what he had to say in less time. He was grateful to the Opposition for their assistance in clear- ing up the work of the session. The Attorney-General thought that the bill might be dropped this session and en- gineers appointed to investigate and re- port next session. (Loud cries of "No," "No.") The Premier added that this was the worst tangled water-power leg- islation that ever came before the House. If he had his way he would like to get all the property back again into the possession of the Crown. Mr. Whitney wanted to know if this was the return the Opposition got for aiding the Government' all day in ex- pediting business. Mr. Conmee began to discuss amend- ments at length, but was met with in- terruptions and cries of "time" from all parts of the House. Mr. Barber pointed out that by the six months' hoist the legislation of 1902 would remain in force, leaving the Clergue interests in possession and the Jennison interests out. _ Dr. Neshitt thought that the Govern- ment should appoint a hydraulic en- gineer to investigate the whole question, especially with regard to damages, and therefore, moved the six months' hoist. Mr. Whitney asked whether the Gov- ernment was a party to throwing put the bill. ' Then the trouble began. Pages of amendments were offered by Mr. Con- mee, Mr. Cameron (Huron), Mr. Barber, Mr. St. John and others, and it was ob. vious that if the House were to adjourn that afternoon, or even that night, no intelligent discussion of them all could take place. The Premier, in reply to Dr. Pyne, said that the Governmefit did not want to disclose the price offered for the Tem- iskaming Railway bonds, as it might af- feet their credit. 3399' per acre. The Jennison Bill.