The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 30 Mar 1906, p. 3

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it'hile prohibition dealt, with forty- iiil.' Lona of property. In Essex they had worked with a hare majority for forty years, which was proof of all that was "necessary. A prohibition law not en- H'orced was not as good as a license law lwell enforced, and was a menace to 'pnblic morality by its violation and a discredit. to all law. made a Political Machine. Hon. Mr. Ross desired to concentrate debate on the clauses to which objec- tion was taken. He was glad to notice it, was not proposed to open the door to the. sale of liquor on Sundays to guests at hotels. With regard to local option, he thought a three-year term was not too short. He objected to fixed local option on both sides. It might seem unfair, but they were not there to make it easy for the traffic or to enable it to con- tinue. There should be no discharge tor those engaged in It, but constant pressure to remove it by every possible pneans. Notice was given the liquor dealers to quit at the end of every year, and there could be no harm from engag- ing in an agitation at the end of the year for local option. He was quite agreeable to the three-year limit, which might be taken as a breathing spell. He would, however, still insist with regard to the 60 per cent. clause. The Pro.. vincial Secretary sought to justify him. self by the referendum vote. but the two cases were entirely ditferent. Prohibi- tion for Ontario and local option were different pArpositions altogether, and if placed in the same position he would do the same thing again as in 1902. It was a triiiing and insignitieant matter to close the hotels in a municipality, tom, but as a matter of strict legal right was not definitely settled hy the. courts. Its application to wholesale li. censes was surrounded with eomtitu- tional diffieulty, and he had nut been able to give it sufficient attention. non. Mr. Ross on the Act. ln moving the second reading: of tho bill to amend the liquor license law Hon. Mr. Hanna. said certain representations, had been made during the week. He had already explained that, the clause about selling liquor to hotel guests on Sunday was not a part, of the bill, although on- tario Was the. only place where it was prohibited. A clause likely to work hardship was that prohibiting the can- vass for orders by holders of retail li- censes. It was a long-established ens- Premier W hitnoy-Oh, of course. I expected that, The. Premier proceed- ed to state that stories were Moat of inquiries as to what commission the " iieinls of the Province could get. He had heard complaints of the conduct of the hon. member. and the attitude he took towards financial authorities there. The incident showed the method by which the public business of the Prov- ince was conducted by hon. gentlemen. He ilrtst made a written agreement that the negotiations then and thereafter he conducted by Coates. and then Bays, be- eause he said something verbally ttmf- feeted the bonds he signed. s'1eTndl..v, because we did not sell the bonds In Canada after he. had taken such steps am' he could to prevent it he attacks Ili. It, was not a pleasant spectacle. and he hoped it would be the last oCthe aer- ies. He did not suppose further enn- duet of the kind would be tolerated by the nublic. He was sorry there was not stronger proof that the Government would ad- minister the law on a strictly nunnpoli. tical baais. There was clear and indis- putable evidence that it was not. Men were selected not as moderates, but of extreme views in the Government ranks Hiving moved the adjournment of tho. debate. Premier Whitney moved the ad. journment of the House at 11.30. Spoke of the Liquor Bill. Hon. Mr. Rosa-l was wrong about, that. fife Treasurer of the Provimse---who was} . lent to England to negotiate. The hon. leader of the Opposition said with, t i]; hilt an hour that he had never heard, t]; o 1 I! to be commissioners and license inspec- tors, In 1896 Messrs. Marter and Whit. ney thought the County Judge, the Mayor and a. commissioner appointed by the Government should serve. The Lib.. eral Government 'resisted because they thought the law was impartially admin- istered. He had made some inquiry as to the character of the. inspectors ap- pointed in a. number of counties, and it, appeared the department was to be made 1a political machine of the worst, kind. 1311'. Ross read from a long list of ap- ipoiutments recently made, in which the license inspectors or commissioners were lull strong party workers, some Presi- (dents of Conservative Associations. The Government had made a tactical mis- ttuke in ehoosing these officers. What- ever had been the case under the for- ;mer Government, he did not think there [was any such conspicuous evidence of political infiueneo. The Premier would tind ditrurulty in carrying out his prom- 'ise to remove the license, department lfrom political control with such instru, linents as these. The bill was road a secdnd tithe. and referred to Committee of the Whole Home next, Tuesday. ' Hon. Mr. Hanna declared he had never been half so proud of the commis- sioners and inspectors appointed. It seemml they were the finest men in their communities. Many of them had pol- il'iml views, but he thought he "could my they were not actively in politics. oriefly add , pathetic 19% DESPITE THE OBJECTIONS tW TEM- PERANCE PEOPLE. Ontario Alliance Deputation Received Yesterday-No Intention or Legaliz» ing Sale of Liquor on Sunday or ot Granting Licenses to Boats. I Premier Whitney and Hon. Mr. Hanni made it plain to the deputation from the Ontario Alliance which waited on the Government yesterday that there is no intention of changing the provis- ions of the new license act demanding three-tifths or (60 per cent.) of the vot p "mum: x .. m the report and estimatos would he dy to lay before Parliamen hut he .lstNl there would ho in il , stimates mothing with regard to - inlet and .nlof. m- b outlets. . O' would. of up canal. Mr. Pat. n Mr. Hyman also WILL STAND BY VOTE. oping an along that h, " closed he would be in a r a] definitely with the questio. of the harmony of opinion tha Interests of the country there shot. ' short session. he feared he, would be ged to defer action until next, session. 101'0 would ho in il ' itimates ,with regard to . inlet and h outlets. . O' would. of I. n Mr. Hyman also , o deputation in sym- arms. fe, 1srmp. pinion, b1 Mon to I. laid l (a u It ot of ti. 14 (I St lit It" Measure Approved Requiring Registered Druggists in Companies. The two big departmental sum: op- posed Mr. Downey's pharmacy bl. 'n-"ur' the special committee of win.ih Irc.. M'.'. .Pyne was Chairman. The Ontm in College; of Pharmacy supported the iltr'riri'". Lr.. J. ll. Preston declared that only ding- gists asked for the bill. which rr-vr:':r'ri' direetors of companies operating (inn; stores to be registered druggists. Mr. Harcourt. while willing to insist titti's no : hysician's prescription should be nit-d br' ny but a graduate druggist. (-onshivi'e'i the. measure in some respects somewhat rastic. Mr. Downey asserted tha' the lg companies would not be allowed 'dl tn» lightest degree by the bill. which was unanimously reported without change. PHARMACY BILL REPORTED. ' caid It was possible for every? uunicipality in tho Province to rave local option without a vote, If the people. Under the proccnt lawl , any Council could practically secure itl r by increasing the license fee, limiting the _ number oi licenses to be issued. He" supported Hon. Mr. Hanna's arguments" '11.; to the majority which should he giv- en in support of or against, kn' ital option. It mm desirable from all points of view to bevel _ _ more than a bare majority in support ofi 'sueh a measure. He also earnestly de-i fended the provisions of the new kiwi a; to fixed times for vote on local op- tion. The Government gave place to (tto one in its appreciation of the evils , !of the drink traftie, and its desire to do Everything possible for the moral welfare of the people. The Government would galways welcome criticism of its course ifrom any source. i In addition to the points mentioned in 'the addresses. the deputation presented m'could not have been carried under the propooed measure. This year local option had carried in 50 munici- palities, which would result'in closing I46 liquor places. By the 'provision of the proposed act, victory would oniv have been gained in 27 my.ticipaiitivi, closing 48 places. During his remarks on this subject Mr. Spence denounced the wit-rendum measure oi the former Ad- ministration. Ile complimented the Pro, mic-r on his manly, straightforward stand against the referendum propos- ition as un-British, and praised his con- tention that the majority should rule. The peoplo had every confidence that tho Premier was a man of his word and would now stand by it. Rev, Dr. Chown said there was noth- ins: in the bill to reduce licenses. A high fee would not aoconmlm. 41...: . 7.. V. -.. \J-uwu Hill" [Here was noth- ing in the bill to reduce licenses. A high fee would not accomplish that l reduction in the number of licemo- rim abolition of bars. drinking in clulo.s, and the treating system were all things in line with the sentiment. of the day and that might have formed part of the lull. Mrs. Thornley, in a fluent address, sustained the opinions of Mr. Spence and Dr. Chown. She entered an earn- "st protest against proposed limitation of a vote on local option to two years before another could be taken. Rev, William Frtzzell, the [Sgt speak- or for the deputation. added his protest against the -threemiths vote iion. llon. Mr. Hanna, the first to reply, traversed a good deal of the ground of his argument in the House in respect to tho tliree-fifth.s per rent. of iho my. east being necessary tn carry or repeal local option, and in re- gard to the equality in the time to the Premier a memorial embodying the resolutions in respect to other vlansos of the not passed at Wcdne" day's convention of tho Alliance. At a mwting of the Exo utivo lout. miltoo of the Ontario Alliance a resolu- tion was adopted thanking the delegates who had gone as a damnation to pro- sont tho viows of the convention to tho C.ovorntnont. The standing Committee an Finance and Organization were ap- pointed for the ensuing year. u w. "a": been carried proposed measure, This year m had carried in 59 munici- hich would result-in closing places. By the 'provision of ged um rink-- proposi-

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