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RapRReR e h Setpictatine: ~'nadartrdcdid 4 Continuing, the member for Sault Ste. Marie, favored the building of every mile of colonization roads in New Ontario with the people's money, and he stated emphatically that there should be two more lines of railway northward from the great lakes. Besides opening up agricultural land these railways -- would give to the Province 150.000 square miles of forest and mininp: lands which were at present inaccessible. The coun-- try could only be opened up by means of railways. The timber alone in this vast territory, he estimated, would be worth $120.000,000 to the Province. At this juncture Mr. Smith put forward a Mr. C. N. Smith (Sault Ste. Maric), resuming his specch in the debate on the address, first stated that he had an apology to offer to the Minister of Agri-- culture with respect to the purchase of a blind mare for $1.500 for the Agricul-- tural College. _ He stated he had learn-- ed that the Minister was not alone re-- sponsible for the purchase, but that he was assisted in it by another member of th:' A,('!_mirfistntion. (Laughter:) Divided Responsibility. The debate on the address was con-- tinued first by Mr. C. N. Smith, Sault Ste. Marie, who finished his speech of Tuesday by making a special plea in the interests of Ontario's pulpwood. Then followed Mr. R. R. Gamey, Manitoulin, who spoke for about an hour and a half. Mr. Preston only spoke a few minutes, when he moved the adjournment, and he will conclude his address to--dav. ~were was a moment ol sharp repartee in the Legislature yesterday afternoon between the member for South Brant, Mr. T. H. Preston, and Premier Whit-- ney. -- It all centred arourd the Pre-- mier's use of the now famous word "balderdash." About s year ago the leader of the (Government applied this word to a portion of a resolution aim-- ing to give the mineral wealth to the settler. The other day a Government measure was introduced practically along the lines of the resolution of a year ago. Mr. Preston pointed out that as far back as 1904 the Liberals had favored such a policy, and even a Conservative con-- vention had passed a resolution also favoring it. Then the member for Sowth Brant gently twitted the Jeader of the Government about being so unfamiliar with it as to use the word "balder-- dash" when practically the same~ re-- solution was brought up in the House, but by a Liberal. This roused the ire of the Premier, and he hastily replied to the effect that he was familiar with details of the resolution, and thereby got deeper into the mire. BDebate is wontinued by Three speak-- as----Mmr. C. N. Smith Says Gov-- Member for South Brant Cre-- ates an Incident. HON. MR. WHITNEY FORGOT. Sharp Repartee in Legislature ---- Over Famous Word. TWITTED PREMER ON "BALDERDASH." Debentures. to Assist Flotation of Munitcipal ernment Should Build Coloniz: tion Roads--Government Desives RUARY 13, 1908. iA Lansey meident were true it relieved the |Government of responsibility, but there rshouid be some straightening out of ac-- counts between the Blind River Conser-- | ; vative Association and its Persident, ; j With regard to the allegation that the ; ! Liberal Government was responsible for 1 the taking away of timber from the | settlers, he had to point out that there j had been a great change in conditions, : In the old days there was not a great ; demand for timber, and, as a matter of fact, it was regarded as an incubus, for Mr. said if The | horse, episode, said that it w ! blind _ when purchased, and it | over two years ago. | _ Mr. Clarke (Northumberland : blind now? ---- i _ Hon. Mr. Monteith--Well. I h I the authority to say. ?;\lr. Gamey Replics, > Mr. R. L. Gamex (Manitimil timely suggestion to the effect that the unemployed now crowding the cities, if the men were fit, might be put to work on these Government improvements in the north. 4 About the Pulpwood. At present this country, he said, was§ y filling United States pulp -- and paper ; mills with good spruce logs, and the | : time had arrived when the principle ofl _' | seif--interest and. self--preservation shoutd | ! enter into the minds of the Administra-- ; E tion. He gave figures to show how n! | large portion of the pulp used in the | | eastern States came from Canadian for-- | | ests. In Newfoundland, he added, some | { measure of self--preservation had been ; taken with regard to pulpwood, and now' ! it was announced that the great Harms---- , worth interests would commence the ) manufacture of pulp on that -- island. : Conuld not some similar measures be' | adopted here ? he asked. _ The speaker then suggested that an -- arrangement | might be entered into with the other | { Provinces _ regarding the -- pulpwoods. | Whatever conclusion were. arrived at : between the Provinces should apply the | { same to them all. and a Government I | commission might take up the work. In | faet Mr. Smith wont so far as to sug-- | clusion Mr. Smith took exception to the remark \of a previous Conservative speaker to the effect that Ontario was an agricultural Province instead of a manufacturing one. In the north there woere already great manufacturingz con-- ecrns, such as the mills at Sault Ste. Marie. and the future would almost cer-- tainly bring greater industrial expansion. Hen. Mr. Monteith, in explaining the horse, episode, said that it was not blind when purchased. and that was fest that the ake the lead he Premier o remier Roused. T. H. Preston (South Brant) Mr. Gamey's explanation of the incident were true it relieved the nent of responsibility, but there be some straightening out of ac-- between the Blind River Conser-- nith wont so far the Premier him YXow ier himself -- might ollow the steps of oundland. In con-- k exception to the lous -- Conservative that Ontario was i V 'p !'The Cost of Text--books. ': Mr. J. A. Auld bas given notice of | his intention to ask the Government on [ Friday as to what reductions have been i made in regard to the price of text. " books. He will also inquire for particu-- lars as to the purchase of the ill--fated N fishing cruiser Turbine. The Hon. Rich-- !! ara Harcourt is inquiring whether the ',' Government intend to introduce legis-- 'i lation with regard to the safety of the i| public in case of fire in public buildings, I' and Mr. J. A. McMillan wants to know ' how much work has been done by the ; drainage referee, and what that officer [! has cost the Province . ' | First Cancus Was Held. | " _ The supporters of the Government in | | the Legislature held their first caucus of | ,the session yesterday. -- The discusiion' L2 0 Lee 0° PCA oGIEY Mr.°H. W Hoyle (North Ontario) introduced his bill to amend the land lord and terant act, and Colonel J. Mun. ro (North Oxford) a bill to amend the municipal aet, both of which were read 2 first time. r.R. E. Clapp (South Bruce) present-- ed an extensively--signed petition from Brant township asking that automobiles should only be allowed on the public roads of incorporated cities, towns and ¥illages. "*The land had to be cleared before it was ; settled. _ Then came the discoveries of 'mineral wealth and conditions were | changed. _ In 1904 a Reform convention | passed a resolution on exactly the same lines as the present proposals of the ':CGovernment, and the following day a ©similar resolution was passed by the Conservative convention. _ "But." said ; Mr. Preston, " when last year the Lil | eral member from the Soo brought for-- ward that resolution the Premier was !'.'m unfamiliar with it that he desceribed i it as 'balderdash.'" Crown in the Province of Ontario. These bills came down as amended by the Sta-- tutes .Revision Committee, and contain no now provisions of importance. Colonel Matheson also introduced his bill to amend the net respecting municipal se-- curities. The bill gives the Ontario Rail-- way and Municipal Board power to is-- sue certificates to municipalities stating that debenture issues made by them are in order. This will prevent the noeed for municipalities coming to the Legisla-- ture for legislation confirming the by-- laws under which debentures are issued. The bill also permits municipalities to pay into the Provincial treasury enstail-- ments of sinking funds, and to receive 4 per cent. interest, the Government hay-- ing the power to reinvest these funds. The Provincial Treasurer stated that the effect of these changes would be to fa-- cilitate the fintation of municipal loans and prevent considerable Utimatia. Premier Whitney--I -- have complate confidence in my hon,. friend's good faith. but so far from being unfamiliar with the matter, 1, as a member of the Oppo-- sition, brought before the House this very question before any convention. Mr. T. H. Preston--I am very much surprised that, in a moment of weakness, the Premier should -- characterize as "balderdash" that resolution. The Premier--It was bailderdash in the extreme when it was introduced last sos-- slon. New Bills Introduced. Bilis were introduced by the Hon. A. J. Matheson and read a first time to amend the act respecting the raising of loans, the consolidated revenue act, and to supplement the revenie of the a Conservative convention. (Laughter.} Mr. Preston moved the adjournment of the debate, and the House adfourned until this afternoon Mtr. T. H. Preston--P balderdash because it was a Conservative convention regard to the price of text. e will also inquire for partiou-- _the purchase of the ill--fated riser Turbine. The Hon. Rich-- "} ats, and Coionéel J. Mun-- ford) a hill to amend the , both of which were read 0 ask the Government rhat regluctions have Db WiiPininintin@itoncllysa ies c 2. 1 Turbine. The Hon. Rich-- i8 ingquiring whethor the tend to introduce legis-- ard to the safety of the f fi\rs in public buildinos. *A L %¥+w »emvuan wants to know has been done by the and what that officer reston--Perhaps it was rable litigation. _ le (North Ontario) to amend the land-- was introduced at