The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 3 Apr 1908, p. 1

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l, lac-fore the orders "or the day were. iprweeded with Premier Whitney said 3110 did not want the. idea to get _ltshroad that the. Government were in 3a hurry to get through with the ses- tilt)?! and to have the elections on May 28. (Laughton) "i may say." he moweded. "that nothing. is farther from our minds. 1 hope-and, al- though i cannot speak with a 'great deal of positive-s, but when lhopo is followed by action very often the hope is rr'allztrd---that hotoro the House rises, if the Cabinet comes to a conclusion and decides- that 'tho election shall be held this year, to {stand here and tell hon. gentlemen. I Elmo" that this will he creating a pre- cedent. but it will not he tho first pre- cedent that has been created from this ,side ot'Ahe House." Proceeding. Mr. Whitney said: "So far it has not been considered. wo. have nearly two years yet." (Opposition laughter.) The Premier added that when he heard that municipalities were preparing to ap- pear before various committees next -reek he had thought it time to take 'Premier Whitney Makes State. l ment in Legislature. Will Tell the Date. While expressing the opinion that there was no reason why the. business of the present session of the Legisla- ture should not be concluded by Tues- day, Premier Whitney yesterday said that ho did not wish the idea to get abroad that the Government desired to unduly hurry business. At the some time he denied that the Government "ere forcing the progress of business with a view to holding the general elec- tion on May SS. as had been rumored. He denied that the Cabinet had considered the matter. but added that should a decision he arrived at before the end of the session he would make an announcement in the House. The Hon. Adam Beck took advantage of the second wading of the Do? Lake pon er bill to make a general do once of the Government's power policy. Mr. Berk contended that it was the desire of the Government to carry out their promises. but as a matter of fact he did not enlighten thi. House in any way as to the Crovernmout's intention. Mr. Bet-k rot'errod to the excellent terms which the Hydro-electric Commission had been able to make with the On- tario Power Company. but he failed to make any statement as to how the Government proposed to convey the power from the point of generation to the consumer. At the evening session tl discussion of an academic nature took place on the Hon. W. J. Hanna's prison labor motion. which was refer- red to Committee of the "Thole. Before the House adjourned Hon: Mr. Hanna introduced his amendmontsrto the liquor license act; Perhaps tho: nary oytstanding of these Was that ntilllf.ving the practical affect or the. nuashin.st" ot 106:1] option hy- Hon. Adam Beck Makes Lengthy" Speech in House. Attempting to. Justify Work of Commission -, Liberal Leader's Critieism--LG', qum- License Amendments Intro-g duced. I No Scheme Yet About Delivery of Electricity. MORE POWER DISCUSSION. iii'iiiiiii,r'tiii" WANTS RI FINISH. awte. Hott. Dr. Pym said it was true that the truancy law had up to the Tdes- ent failed. but the proposal to place those pow-N's: In the hands of Iowa! school boards would only bring the Chairman into unpleasant notoriety. He asked that the bill should be with- drawn and his request was acced- ed to. TT _ _ Power Minister Speaks. Rome action 'to wake thentrup. It was not intended that the. tegiiuaturer should sit on to July. He could Sl'rOi no reason. however, why the House; should not complete its business by? Tuesday. . ', A Word for the Senator. Mr. Whftno.v proceednd to roftrts to the press ropurts'of the Senate Com- muteo which killed the Ontario & Michigan Power ("ompany's bill. He said :--"I we that the committee play- "OI-SCUM" "1': FIGURE Nu'nay (V. naKa- .. t lat-Ra Falls Railway Company ' reapcctJ; ' . itttt the, North Lanark Railway Co "1 Party: rmpccting the Dunnville. _s'i'-'Jivi.j, i landport & fhramsviule Electric Railwyiv. , Company: rcspocting the Guelph ItiF. '35 dial Railway Company; respecting the) "r" [ Hamilton & Guelph Junction Railway... If, company I' rcspcrzting the city of Pet F 'Ng Fore: respecting tho. Young Trome' V '4: Christian Association at Fit. Thoma. "g',, '". rnspccting the Railroad and City Youn . 'rn, Mom's Christian Association at stl Thomas, ' rospeetintr the city or "Egg . I 1Tilllit.t.1tt,to amt-mi the act "spotting; 25;; tTW'TTaw Sock-w of Upper Canada; my. .,' cpcctlng the International ("ommitteogg ," tin; Young Men's Christian Associtk " Hons: respecting the town oCrrH1tfy, ' ' The Truancy Law. "' _ " ', "sk.pe-, I, Mr. Craig tNrellingtor0 in moving l, hit; bill to amend the truancy law ll ilrg°d the importance of some action , 'tll this direction. He was supported 3 by Mr. T. H. Preston {Brant}, who 1 said that a satisfactory solution would I ncx'cr be arrived at. until the whole l', matter was placed under the control i.' In moving the second'reading of his bill to provide for development ot water power at Dog Lake. Mon. Mr. Beck said this action would enable the Government to control and Ttttru- into the storage of the water powers at Dog Lake. Such a control, he main- tained. would enable the Government tn increase-the value of this water power. Under the new schema with higher dams, the total increase in water power would be 10.000 horse- power, since about 4.090 horsepower was; being developed there now. The rentals received from surrounding sites would, he believed. fully compensate the Government. for this outlay. Mr. Beck said certain parties were endeav- orlng'to corral and take. from the, Province valuable power assets, but the Government were convinced that the present action would be of great benefit to the north country. including Fort William and Port Arthur. 'The criticisms advanced against the Gov- ernment's Dower policy were of an-er- Tho Mowing bills wen.- road a, third "/, time ".--Hrsprwting Queen Victoria Nia- r" Kara Fans Park; rtfiiiyor'tltttr inquiriesg'g concerning public matters: to amend the / Untario Railway and Municipal Boar - nr'tt respecting then North 's1fitlCr'li'.h'a., way fytnuyaur: viiisiii'icTrmr the. West; I' rm Ventral Railway Company"." r99... tiorxttifur' thur3rorniMcKay & Kaktic, ..' Third Readings. m: the educational Authorities. Then the law would be enforced by men v ho were interested in its objects. Mr. titudholme, also supported the hm. Mr. Whitney-Nothing-lint/i/dill be done. Mr. Smith (Sault Ste. Marie) said fhat thorn was a. growing foam that 'in conseqummh of tho voters" lists for the unorganizc-d districts not being pr?- pared tho elMtion for the comm- mmcy which inr'ludnd those districts would not he held on the same day.tis that for the rest of tho Province. of tyonstitutidia%iiriii, tii?iciiTei.d than that of unconstitutional practices of thr? distinguish) Senator." h? glrvriod in it. We: who.have been :n this House tttteen or more yoar', have: a distinct rceollection ot a fake resignation which a man. now a. San. ator, carried in his pocket to enable Mr. Connttan, to lost uncertain in the Public mind as to whether he was_a mpmhst' of this Legislature or not. I min not ashamt-d that my knowledge _-'-.. w ...v "mun". gum... in this: House, and said: 't have yet. lit br:arn that Mr. whitney Itran au- ytority 0n that or any other subject.' Of comm I rent fully crushed. but. I will try to survive. This gentleman has heen known as the running topt- PP! IT the side ot James Comnee, and ed ducks and drakes with my reputa: tion with reference to m.vmeimir'ar, au- thority. A terrain Senator known as J. K Kf'TT'Ohjncthd to argmnmwts used m the vommittee in favor of their pay- {nga'ttf'gtion to the resolution passnd to obtain cheap power without coer- cion or interference with vested rights. The leader of the Opposition had said " that the Government should have t taken advantage or. the. forfeiture . flause In the Electrical 19eve1ettpment. ', company agreement to have trot pos- ", session of that undertaking. That - was a most extraordinary statement Cs.',' for a public man to make. "The pol- Cr, icy of this Government," said Mr. '. /i,.ytt;s'ts, "is not. to bring about the fail- . "mi: of large corporations with the ob- Cr. 4 Act. of obtaining control of them even s"." tii, the interests of the people of the j" province. Cheap power is to be oh- .t r!t,te'ntf. by honorable methods. and not "Why such undustmaNo. means as had fir/1'39"". sugthod." '5 gYould be Fruitloss. " 'T'ng-r'ucsinz the statement that the "o'": G'ctvtatuatrts.nnt had made no attempt to ("imam Major St. Alwyn and the. city tsfhyeionto toptther. Mr. Beck said ':1'2,5,,t'1e,t gentleman-did not ask for ' 1y such thing. and "it would ho un- , warranted in the tlrsit place and fruit- '. (less in the second plat-o." . L"whatvvould .the. city of Toronto ides with sueh. =a plant ?" asked Mr. .Reck. I'even if. they had the power l, to acquire it I'" {Bargain-counter Contract. _ "Title character. .atttrtte. stated that the) leader of, the Opposition was not ton, verbant with the true state of adult-s. The: act of the old Government re- strain; potver lacked all the' essen- tia1g to accomplish anything, he raid. while thelonmee bill was in the road as well. He, felt Justified in saying that in regard to no Pntprprim in the Province. eitherpublic or. private. had there been more'earnest workm- rxnert opinion obtained than in comwc- than with the liydro-electric'"Commis- sion. Mr. Beck charged the leader of the. Opposition with having stated that the estimates of the commissioh Were ,untrustworthy, Mr.' MacKa; had said that the commission claimed'that the right of way from Niagara Falls would cost tto an acre. anthhad said that ehrtubl be, No Gold Brick. T:, such land was avaihthie. 'Twenu' dollars an acre was. OMS Hamilton's share. and the total cost of-the . right of way wouhrbe 81.975 a mile. or $247 rm acre. Such criticism as that of tho. leader of the Opposition showed that the extent of the 'undértaking had not. been property aopree1atrrd. and proved that he was, no; informed Mr. Beck proceeded to comment on the fact that much useful work had been accomplished by the commission in supplying the municipalities with in- formation. Theres had been no lack of zeal. emu-3y or carnestness on the part of the Government or the com- n'iission. Their policy, he contended, was not a gold brick one. but one which could be carried out, and the Opposition might assist; with criticism of an honest and constructive charac- ter. The commission. he claimed. had made it possihlc tor the municipalities Proceeding. Mr. Beck ~told of the municipalities endorsing the course pur- EMT-d» and last Jamaa'ry tiftttel, munici- paiities WOUBd an expenditure exceeding the total exttenditure'of the whole Pro- vince. There was, tto-question now of. the contracts. They had 8.000 horse- po'wccr whehebcr the municipalities wanted it. This power had been ob- tained at $9 pPr horsepower for ovr-r 3151.000 ,ttorstepower and. $9.40 for less than t at. . _ . Proceeding, he stated that man in- terview with the Mayor and Board of Control of Toronto these omciam had approved practicauy. of the . contract that had been submitted to them by the tpottttttiisiotr -Again he reterred to the bargains the Government had ob- tained, 39 power instead of $12, and " cent copper instead of 28 cent. _ _ . Proceeding. Mr. Beck said that.it had been estimated that power could be de- livered in Toronto at $18.10. That was on the basis of 30,000 horsepowofsr. but when they were supplying 60,000 horse-- D0Wfrt' on the same capital expenditure they would realize how cheap power was going to be. They wore also going to transmit power at a high voltage. not in order to save copper, but in order that plat-es an remote av King- ston and Owen Sound might be brought within theutlectripal zone. It was the Government's policy to build up On- tario's industries., and he assured the House that-everything possible would be done, to carry out the'choap power policy. The estimates they would sub- mit' would not be ttttal until they had trot' tenders in their pomses.oyti.sytd. had convinced thp, Government that they could carry. out the policy. Those tendering would also Ae to he gun; "We have a bargiiin-eounter contract and we have a bargain-counter price." he said. . representative of the people

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