The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 7 Apr 1908, p. 3

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id for such unfairm' > l.'r:.;!,! S | 'Bew $ ~Bbeen absof%!ely Thrown to | 4s ! the winds, and he gave as his proof the |TheIndependent Stand.~ > | divisions in Peel, Cardwell and Essex. [ Major Rathbun (Independent), East | In his opinion the changes in the Hastings, did not think the people in | county of Middlesex were the most out-- the rural ridings would consider favor-- i rageous of all. In every instance the ably the doubling up in Toronto. He | changes were made purely fmf] :"iml"." was quite at a loss to know why his rid-- | for party advantage. 'I he Government ing was considered at all in the r_fflw- were afraid to trust the people who tribution. Though perhaps his riding | sent them io the House with a major-- had been made better from a geograph--| ity of 40, and consequently hbhad at-- ical standpoint, there were regular rid-- | tempted the most subtle gerrymander ings in the Province which were mffd," ever atteompted in Canada. irregular. ]lo. pnintt'd 'Ou.t t.hm "'d.fif Dodged the Question. and West Hastings had each a popula | id f | tion of about 17,000 people, while tlw' Mr. Hoyle (.\nl'th.llnr:n'm) was mn.k- North had 25,000 people. -- In the neW ; ing allegations against the last redis-- arrangement the East had '3['."00 ]'f.".'l""- l tribution by the Dominion (.'.u\".'!"'n".}'l""'. the West 17,000, and the North L'..""".l when \] Bowmain asked. him M it was putting the entire county: out of bal-- not a lt.n't tf'm(' as a 2 <'1|\ of the de-- '-anoc. He could not see why a tu\\'n-l liberations of the committee at Ottawa "ship giving a majority of 162 1'~'11>'¢l'}'='j a unanimous report was brought in i tive should be thrown into a 1'"""'2} Mr. Hoyle evaded the question, say. i which last clection gave '!1"' lf'rg""t | ing that Victoria county "('\v"] protested Inumlmr of votes of any riding in the | then and protested to--day. He was | county. If the bill went through h®} further usked to answer the question, gclaim(wl it would arrogate all the pOW-- | and retorted that the UOpposition -- g0f ber of Hastings and Prince Edward to ! no justice from the Deminion Govern-- the lusz-.\*_ a small group of men living ment, 'l'f"l "]." action "r-l"'"' o I' \'.}.r:.. in Belleville. vesty of justice. In 1814 the Liborals :'pr".'.\']l\;[]|(!"f'l'l' thirty counties, ha l"'an(s Riding Back. claimed, and in 1885 forty more. The debate was adjourned by Mr. I At the evening session the debate on Hislop (East. Huron). Ithe redistribution bill was resumed b; ho m e ie se enndmenaite ornnona n M». Duff (Wost Simeoe), who said that had the Government desivred they could have created many safe seats for Con-- Isc-r\uti\'rs, He hoped that before the j bill passed its third reading Cardwell| would be wiped out and the old riding | of South Simcoe reappear. : I Was Mutilated, f l CC:. Atkinson (North Norfolk®) said that if Brockville riding was searified | I before the change Huron county was j I mutilated. The member for Woest | | Middlesex (Mr. Ross), as well as the member for Peel (Mr. Smith), had both | been _ gerrymandered The Minister ; Of¢ Public-- Works had secured tb q | Liberal municipality, which had been | J taker from Mr.. Auld in South Essex, | t but he would have trouble in handling | ' it Regarding Torouto., the speakerid saidl his "worst expectation" had heen | surpassed How were the agricultur-- : ists going to be represented in the ; LMegislature? he asked., and he addoed| that he did not think they would have ; any representatiom at all In a city | a man could represent 100,000 people | easier than 20,000 in the rural districts. | He wanted to know what the agricul-- j turists would say to the large repre-- | sentaution of Toronto, where a mem--| boer woulid represent one and thr e-- | quarier square miles, though in the j rura'! districts a member I'f'llv:"'w'.l""'(l_g hundreds of square miles. f "If¢ you link up votes in Toronto, | why did you take the linking away : from Ottawa?" he asked. Continuing., | Col. Atkinson said that th Premier j must have listened too much to t'.:.-; political heclers of the back conces--! sions. The Premicer had been weak |j enough to be led. ' Going Whitneywards. } I Mr. Pratt (South Norfolk} said the dual representation in Ottawa gave th | best reason for such a course in To-- , rorio. Before the redistribution bill ; had come down the member for East i Huron had taken "good care to get | from --under." The only reason for | such a course of action was i-w-;«u..-é the country was going "\\'311121'»,\'-: wards." Notwithstanding the "lin--| loyalty" .of Iiberals, he noticed lli)-:' position members were dropping .mt.f Hadid not think any rural riding would | object to Toronto getting its share of | representation. ? Against Precedents. | : Mr. Bowman (NXorth Bruce) said rhoi ; Opposition claimed that the Premier | | had departed from all recognized cus-- | I toms which should govern a matter of | 'this kind. Had the Liberals at Otta wa l I adonted the methods of Mr. Whitney j Ithey would immediately -- have 1;'1\"-:1' steps to undo the iniquitous ;_-erx',\-l ' mander of 1882, but they had waited un-- ; til a census had been taken. In Ontario at present the Government were deal-- 'in:: with a@ census eight years old. l'l'ht'l'" was absolutely no sound excuse | for the Government dealing with the 'iqm-.\-tinn in old Ontario at the present time. [. Th special committee business, Mr. | Bowman said, was a farce. '"*We attended those meetings day after day, but even had we had any suggestions to make they would not have been considered for a moment. The whole thing was cut--and--dried be-- fore the minority representation was thought of." The principle of county boundaries, he said, had been entirely lost sight of in reference to Carleton and Russell. Party advantage, and party advantage alone, had hbeen thought of. The , principle of equalization of population, *+ay. t bmemerme.....

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