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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 16 Feb 1911, p. 2

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. Tg .. ') . mi . "wail" .; KC. we.',"' T of 'i,'?l'lt,ll5lll " nditure now than it . t ' T: f' !ll!lll . ' diagram 2t 'fottttV Gitrthunent. t e scare ty of teachers Was one . ' - into thoroughly. and the 'lfdld','. ' . thought the references to tho" sub . . , Jects in the amendment unnecessary. showed that in the riding of one _ T . He declared that the hon, gentleman, "Esme" number" who had de- I _ the leader of the Opposition was ap- clare that there was nothing wrong': . , I - . F proaching lmpertinence when he as ' with the educational system, 31 teach- trerted that neither the Minister oti V gh.")" of 74 were not properly quali- Education, nor the Deputy glimmer. "Twenty-tive per cent. of the rural nor the r/te,',':"",,":,',",."','.',', Iff $303322? schools in this Province have unquali- ' had prac ca amt y " tion in rural neighborhoods. As for tted teachers. declared Hon. Mr. , . !the suggestion of a Provincial Com- MacKay. He ridiculed the proposal! _ mission on Technical Education, he made to bring teachers out from the t . " ' characterized it as rank folly, the ac- British Isles. and also the reason tbd.. . tic ath r th f an viricisd by Mr. McGarry that univers tion of 33.11""; m r e an O a m sit . of sense. for the Province, when the y students were gomg to the west, . Dominion Government had sent out a, as if university students ever went commission to be "following their tg.' into the townships to teach any- i track, endeavoring to pick up_the tag "1in honorable friend from Ren- i lots and remnants of information they, , frew," remarked Hon. Mr. MacKay, (gathered. . ailstrDying to qualiif'y 1:31. a position in Dominion Govet'nntcnt'n Duty. 6 apartment o " ucation. If he , ' . ' .7 " i want: to qualify he must show that i Speaking ot tll...:).?))?,""") s proposal] he knows nothing about the depart- _that the Provincial Government " . ' , should expend larger sums on peo- ment. at which there was a general . . laugh at the expense of Hon Dr l pling the northland, the Premier Pyne . . ., claimed it was the duty of the. Dom- l . . . l inion Government to pay the cost or a (No, atttgttttmstion for Delay. reasonable portion of the cost of im- . Referring briefly to the sub oct of 'migration. technical education, the Liberal iead- Sir James defended the right of the, er pointed out the urgency of. the 'Provincial Treasurer tn allude to the matter/ind declared that there was danger he saw menacing the Govern-, no Justification for delay in adopting ment railway in a propo.s.ed 9011033; la full. sweeping system of technical even though it was a policy of the! education. It was estimated that :Dominion Government. . l nearly. a million dollars was sent out , As to Mr. MacKay'S declared syrtt-' of the Province annually to corres- ' l pathy for Agriculture, the Premier gald pondence schools, and this sum coi- ', he would leave him to the tender met-t lected in fees would go far toward Cies of the avowedly independent} supporting such a system. He repeat- member from Hamilton, ed that Ontario should have a separ- That trade always followed the. ate technical commission to supple- flag Sir James said he had always bel. ment the work of the Dominion Com- lieved. invariably. he said, British, mission. power had gone first and had been, ' ' followed hy the trader. . 1tteetprocits Not for Legislature. , We had heard, said the Premier, or; In taking up the subject of recipro-' old moss-back Toryism, but had not; . city, Hon. Mr. MacKay criticized the seen it in Conseryatives: if found it: Provincial Treasurer for having intro- would likely [be in the clothes of Suchi duced such a subject into the debate, a gentleman as the leader of the Op-', and for forcing the members of the position, who would argue that a man! Opposition to discuss it. He declared should not hold different views from that :mder the British North Ameri- those he held twenty-five years before. . ca ac matters of trade and comme . i were tor the Dominion 'lUfi'f.lft'lfe'fie, Tait Too Much For Them. l and to them the reciprocity agree- "The wise and crafty President ofl merit should have been left. He fear- the United States was too much for led for the outcome if the Province: them," was Sir James' explanation of was to keep on interfering in purelyi :the effect of Messrs. Fielding and Dominion matters as it had in this'; :Paterson's visit to Washington. Sir one. Hon. Mr. MacKay combatted' ZWilrrid, he said, had been appealed to . the conclusions drawn from the fig-,' Eby the western farmers for a low-I ures of the treaty of 1854 and showed l Eel-mg of the tariff, and afterwards! that the farmers had benefited by re-i ttold by Grit manufacturers that ciprocity then. He sketched the etul 1he must not do that. so he sent the forts of Conservative Governmentsi Ministers ostensibly to do all in their , since Confederation to secure tariff, power to secure for the western concessions from the United Stalcsw {farmers a lowering of the tariff, ex-l, and quoted Sir John Macdonald in! :pecting to come back saying they', support ot the position taken by thel found it impossible to overcome the Federal Government. . opposition they encountered. To their The Provincial Treasurer, he con- monumental amazement, said Sir tinned, had swallowed not only his) , James, these Ministers discovered that statements with regard to capital re- ; President Taft, who found himself in _ venues, but he had swallowed the a hole, was willing to go farther than record of all the Conservative leaders they "proposed. on the question of reciprocity. Andl Sir James concluded a vigorous at- he had done it all for the sake of tack on the idea of annexation with the politicians at Ottawa. the United States. as predicted hy It was an insult to the. intelligence! some Americans, by a warning to of the people of the country to say" "those who are endeavoring to put us that they could not trade with the in that position" to "look out and be- United States without losing their) ware." . nationality. He. declared that suchl After Sir James concluded, Mr. lil; assertion was economic heresy, Allan Studholme asked if he would and showed that at the time when have the right to speak, hut was call- lBl'itiSh relations with Germany were; ed to order. The division then took {almost at the breaking point trade! place on Mr. MacKay's amendment at il'?l" larger than ever before. I 6.30. The yeas and nays were called , . for, and showed a straight party di-; is",' James Closes Debate. , vision, Mr. Studholme voting with the) i Mr James, at the outset of his Government, and being. loudly ap-l speech. which closed the debate, al- plauded by the Ministerialists for so; .luded to his Government as one which (doing. The numbers were: Yea, 16; was "secure in the confidence of the pay. so, lpeople and in the righteousness of its] The motion for the Speaker to ,own action." He criticized Hon. Mn; leave the chair was. carried on the |MacKay's amendment as being "just: same division. Mr. w. H. Hoyle took 'Yas unusual, just as unreasonable, and', itust as far from the actual facts as it! 'was necessary for his purpose." Re- !ferring to different statements as to 'the deficit charged by three different f {members of the Opposition to exist in the Provincial Treasurer's funds,! Sir James said they would at any rate not be capable accountants. In reply to the charge that the ate- ' sertions about Liberals giving away lands or timber limits to their friends lwere incapable of proof. Sir James said the proofs could not be found be.. cause of the absolute clearing out of desks and wardrobes by the former Government when they left office. He said the Government were al- y ready working along the lines of con- ' F ervation and reforestation, and . o

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