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PP § f "'that a distinct variation had been ~lial adjustment which had been made made in the arrangement of Confed-- brought Sir James Whitney to his eration in favor of Manitoba, which feet on a point of order that the was part and parcel of the whole set-- question of financial terms had not tlement. Miar;it'o;)z'l htad et;eceia\;eg :_l)i:- ' been mentioned in the resolution or tt:l'_(i'(t' ]g%a?-i«:aiwidy?w?)naeg. Nothing yet the amendment. Hon. A. G. MacKay had been done by the Dominion Gov-- * said that a distinct variation -- had '\ ernment to preclude Ontario from been made in the bargain with Mani-- | pressing her claim ; it was not yet toba, and the other Provinces should | \ too late to make some -- reasonable have been consulted. Speaker Hoyle | showing. took another view, and ruled Mr. El-- \__The Speaker sustained the point of ' liott out of order. | iurder raiged by the Prime :\hmstor: Mr. T. Herbert Lennox (North Nothing affect'ng financial terms ha.o, York) replied to Mr. Elliott, and he been stated in the resolution or the was followed by Mr. T. Marshall amendment. and Mr. BElliott would (Monk), Mr. C. R. McKeown (Dutf-- have to confine his T('IH&_U'kS to the Terin), and Mr. Allan Studholme, who boundary discussion. . Failing accept-- will likely continue to--day. ance of that ruling he would ask the a | HMouse to wait until to--day for a| Loss of Jurisdiction. | written opinion. 1 | ] Mr. Elliott criticized the admission Resuming his remarks, Mr. Elliott i of the Government that territory was said it was not time to lay the blame | not a serious question. What, then, on Sir Wilfrid Laurier, the Right ' 6 was the serious question? Was it the Hon. R. L. Borden, or even on the sentimental value of a Provincial-- Prime Minister of Ontario, but to lou_k 8 owned port? as suggested by Mr. after the rights of the Province; it f Gamey last week. Mr. Elliottcon-- was a time to avoid political differ-- j tended that, under the British North ; ences and place the Province before America act, when _ the _ Govern-- | party, that it might receive th'e con-- ment extended the: T. & x. 0. Rail-- Sideratifl" to which it was Cntltle(]. 1 way over the Manitoba boundary it h $ would immediately pass from under' Mr. Elliott's Amendment. the legislative jurisdiction of the Mr. Elliott's . amendment _ regrets t -- Province. The price of the five--milé that the Government had undertaken strip to Hudson Bay was the control | to deal with the division of 324,000, f of this railway., Then the railway square miles of territory in Keewatin| & would suffer from the loss of im-- fwithout consulting the Legislature, munity from spurious action, which, |and failed to realize the great import-- as at present, could not be brought | ance of securing such an extension of unless the Attorney--General granted the Provincial boundary; that the Gov-- | a fiat. '"The whole arrangement has ernment failed to properly and ade--| | been made without any consideration quately prosent to the Government of { of where Ontario is likely to land." Canada the claims of the Provinc'ei to | > i the territory, and, without securing Financial Adjustment, the aid of the Legislature, admitted * a ' Mr. Elliott proceeded to discuss the 'that this Province "had no legali f advantage which Manitoba had gain-- right whatever," and had consented ed in the settlement by reason of the to a division of the territory in ques-- | financial a@adjustment, when inss was tion; that the order of the Governor-- | ; interrupted by Sir James Whitney General in Council of the 20th Feb-- | that there was not a linc in the rte-- ruary, 1912, providing for railway ac-- solution or amendment before-- the cess to Port Nelson or Fort Churchill, -- 0 House rclating to financial terms. ! by traversing lands within and subject *'"*Whaterer may have been the claim | to the jurisdiction of the Province of twenty or thirty ycears ago, it had Manitoba, was entirely unsatisfactory. { 3 r}nthh!g to do '\\'ith the Province ot" The Government's Duty. s ' Ontario to--day." "We are discussing the adjustment It was the duty of the Government of this territory and the adjustment to prevent the proposed division. Tfi of the claims appertaining thereto," [the Provincial railway was extended | replied Mvr. Eiliott. I | to Hudson Bay it would involve a cost| "Mr. Speakor," interrupted _ Sir "Of $10,000,000, which would mainly| James, "I must stop the hon. gentle-- benefit Manitobha. The alteration of man in his attempt to draw into this the terms of the Confederation com-- discussion a matter which has not pact. as outlined in the Federal hill, been referred to. I ask you to rule without consultation with or consent| that the hon. gentleman cannot dis-- of the other Provinces, was a violation cuss this or any question of a finan-- \3 of the spirit of the British North Am--| cilal nature." l erica act. | *'*May I ask," countered Mr. EI-I a * ' * liott, '"if the Government of Ontario Entitled to Credit. | 1'n'a.s been invited to discuss with the No person claimed, said Mr. T. H.| Government uf the 1)(\nn.m«)n f.,'f('an- Lennox, North York, that the Du-i a da. apythmg in connection with the minion Government was bound to go-- i ?r?:n\('.::-'if);:;ijurfi:'?]fin'~ rft' 't'hc'_ rlghtfl.o'f cure territory 'for Ontario. Still, he Kith this l'"a"('l"',_f,nues in connection said, it was the duty of the Dominion | **We lia\'o never | ask to give Ontario the territory she was 5s i2 e Drrven neen asked--there entitled to. Ey the settlement pro--; s no such thing in existence as the hoi c AEw! a i | righis of the various Provinces in re-- p\osed by Sir Wilfrid Laurier, UOntario | gard to the financial aspect of this ind no outlet to Hudson Bay. By | territory. What doos the hon. gen-- ; the prosent arrangement, Ontario had | tleman mean? _ Manitoba H4s maflc: secured access to these ports. and it some financial adjustment, but it hasi was thj'ough the efforts of the On-z nothing to do with the Province of tario Government that she secured | Ontario," continued Sir James. " it. If any Government was entitled At this point. Mr. Rowell cams in !n credit for having done all it could, ' to the discussion with the remark that | it was the pResent Government. Mr. Elliott had a right to place his Here Hon. A. G. Mackay pointed nutl views before the House before the that up to the convention between Speaker made his ruling. The mem-- Mr. Roblin, his colleagues and the ber for Manitoulin (Mr. Gamey) had Dominion Government, in 1905, there moved an amendment to his resolu-- was no demand by Manitoba that her tion, which expressed the thanks of boundary be extended castward. the Legislature for the settlement | I suppose, then," retorted Mr. Len-- which had been made. To carry out nox, "that the reason the Province that settlement a bill had been in-' was not asked to come in before was, troduced in the House of Commons | because they could not trust the providing for a division of territory |. Government of that time." ' with financial terms to Manitoba, but / A i f !(1)0 tf'iln?ncia] consideration whatever to Benefit Manitoba, ntario. The order in Council read Mr. T. Marsh: <Ir reralia by the Prime Minister made no men-- the im';)OI'J:J:'Edyf ('\g:?;:'\'-)l)i;;Uk&e':\t: it;?'r): of anything beyond a strip of -- ()r?tario.. If Ontario bUin.H. terminal t railway into Port Nelson through the . No Justification. ;i;\l*sént);leaitrilp of territory, they would Sir James replied that the House cl€. Whe;g C;l?efpo"tfilevfox t'elephoncs. had '"no knowledge of any bill" velop it in a.strf fiv Soms to_do; which had been introduced in another | _ They iw _ StrIp lve.rmles f\rlde, tb : | ey might develop it in Manitob House. Mr. Rowell was not frank; | but every dollar th toba, | he used language in such a way as | 'be tl'ibut(j to tl> :; r 5_ Apent WOUI,d to show that there were financial tob&s 4 1e Government of Mani-- terms in relation to the Province of Tfie Ontari PA f Ontario. _ "There is no justification the Can: d%llo Government had given f whatever for the hon. gentleman tak-- million ado cg l\t,)rt}'{er_'n Railway two j ing that stand. The Province of On-- a larger m antige, n i the clay belt, ' tario has no more to do with fSnan-- Would efrant per mile than Ontariol cial terms thah the kingdom of Mor-- Mr '15 F € ecco." ferred tc R. McKeown (Dufferin) re-- f Hon A. (G.. 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