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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 6 Mar 1912, p. 3

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. tore] issue that Manitoba should be T3231," s,"rfi'iieiyi,2,,1,ees,ten: representing I ' allowed to extend her boundaries oven .éitorLW l ntereits. and City son; _ to allow her to have within 70.000 addell, Hamilton. square miles of the areapf the Pro- Strong Languave _ Vince of Ontario. 2" . a . . Mr. Allan Studholme (East Ham- F Pynieious legislation, dishonest ilton) called the five-mile strip "NO and immoral," Were the terms used Man's Land." The Government. he hy Mr. Anglin to describe the clauses l said. had failed to look into the in the municipal franchises nét Whicl: future. It was willing to take any pre'Vented any further "torsion " old thin: that the Dominion Govern- franchise rights which him not I U ment would Rive it. If a private assented to by the people with "to? railway had wanted to go where. this Iréference in the event of C. . in a railway is going both the Dominion Posed extension to the rate )133 pro- and the Manitoba Governments would "You are clipping our ,',f//,b),f,',re . give it more than Ontario was getting. Mr. Waddell. "You are takigre 51:22:17 V I New Bills. (i,vr),ii'nrir,ieilit,tc"t,)'. Council. You will "h" Mr. Proudt'oil'it ,"ie/'/,tr"rtngo',',,) in- Ities in' Ontdlrrioé'? all the municipal.. l troduced a bil to amen the muni- "I . . i, . [ cipal act. which would allow ttauni- "Yo'EOtthFe dillét 'Jj,1,lith, ltVEr.thBe§l<. cipalities to raise money for a tem- in the four or five Years in) "hirer; iiltl porary purpose. At present a cor- has been in force F Tii', ar . l" poration guaranteed bonds for which giving the people the ri ltetSImP J no sinking fund had 1been proxidecll. on these things" gn o pass They could pay certs n e cctric rai - . , . . m . . . way bonds which have been guaran-I tvc)l,,rai)'ti)tietctt/givsttty'.tetie,s 111ee-, teed. "in? i'nt 1on'sf)1rn/1'/ ntihc cot?» Power Commission hill. in "Thigh it}: any (e an cu. C it email es -. . . g . " " Ere thus in a hole and seek relief. ir,fttrihtti)"i1dtoc1acpeuitrji all 0r_p:}1rt A hill introduced by Hon. W. H. to the owhcr and only c'r'errfiam er Hearst. Minister of Lands. Forests part SE) 'ii'ri'i'r,/ii't% y p.13 or the and Mines. extends the operation of "That clause woe. in the . . i an act now in force to may a bonus on hill " said Mr Book "It 'r., origina . copper, nickel and cohalt refined in of compensation " . IS a matter the Province. Tho .prcscnt .8" was Mr. Nesbitt also objected to the to operate for at ol,"',').;',",.:", fire years. breaking of solemn contracts of the end Mr. 1"'r,rj'i,t.i',s,d1."iu Is to continue municipalities, which, fixing rates and it tor l like he?" : ' IV ll; i ,. Ithe definite time of franchises, had ' I. '),'/ii 1fJa,'.l,Jja "II') t2,vtsl.e,nrl,) I',': I at!""? of mm... He did not municipal act allowing municipalities t',i,ti.,it,l,t' 1:125:13; 1'l,2"'Cl1iorfmt)/itf1'gi, to give cash bonuses to manulactuiui _rr/Arhaiis ordering an expenditurd oi" ers, except by ha." ,o/' "WI 8589.551 "100,000, which other engineers might) ment or total cxemption for a period inot thin - warranted I of ton years. Mr. Fraser will.?)'"? . . _ l; ' A . I ' introduce another measure providing Want Restraint, I that a bonus in -law to :,','y:,ri'i,,,mJ/'ttl,'f; In regard to the clause providing assented to MI J,yri/J'Y) "id DU"; for companies to put thcir wires in 1""? at an "Who" In." or - conduits which might br, constructed, "9's"; . 7 . ., he. thought some restraint should he II pst or., in? "an?" 2/iv1i',"fi,.?f, put upon the capacity of those works I ' the I.'. P.rt. '3 "I? "s'Jl1s1f/A,x't'fnrlt',.'; so that they should not he built for I of whlt'h the "WW"? Toast? 15 ka . Irequiremcnts much in advance of this 'trom October 16 to I\o\(-ni IT. a; t I Ida" requiring tho corporation to W" (south fre,'" :)iyrcy?bPI l to 1,"; "3:13,: , an 'uirii't'ir/i"ri'-,r,s.r), for t'nciliticsmot, IA.. H. I-.": Machin tlxc110r¢i - (lI Inccdcd. Mr. Ncsliitt quoted legal' lduccd a bill to amend. the gante an I I . . , hut ti "t "I 1sr,islut H ',1 '1. ' I... . _ . ' . he open season , opinions thu It stain dunes lOll o "ShorKs act to hart? t -q P It ex- Inot take away that security tor pri- I"m3"1"?2n:m:t)2v:'rf9:h?6Lt}, .Now'erh- Ixutc property for the protection of it? f:',', and he will also seek to short- l tiltigl'hiqltlhz "(up ernment itself was on the open season 101: "/,,y/'k,',1tf," in- I "ii/ 1'i'il"iin said that his company Tho "th 'Y 2l"p'l'tf'i)'st0l/lc,'.r' Mr. Inuuted only a, fnir deal. in reply to; i,tp"ll,y-'cd, .le yo}; has charge of it. I Mr. Beck's statement that the com-I /M'. K. Mf:)?1e::'e.,.ye.f2e' puny would 1w compensatcd for :inyI It _-..----------------"- I loss it might sustain. he sold it didl ICOMPANIES UPPDSE I 'not, cure to leave the question ofI I I. (compensation to bo. (ict-idcd by uny- I I body. It did not. think the Hydro-I 'I FRANCHISE I electric Commission the proper, tri- I BILL. burial to deal with suchnmtters. . I I Mr. Beck said the municipalities Ithcmsclvcs might. enforce the regula- I -"-------.-- Itions, but Mr. Anglin preferred the Commission as the lesser of the two . wils. Large Deputation Protests to I° I . . Vested Rights. I I Hydro-electric Commission. _ In dealing with the bill rcspcciingI I T the extension of franchises, Mr. Nur-; -----. lin claimed that if there have been,; I I valid franchises created according to' _., . an (-xistitig law at the time, there (STRONG LANGUAGE IS USED should not how be passed any law I . _ I I which would invalidate that fran- I _ I chiso By the regulation that exist- - TT Iing franchises could not be extended I I _without a Vote of the people, there .Illon.Adam Beck Says Commission "MI Iliad been created vested rights which / . . .- _ .. ' ' l it was not proper that the Legislature I Had Poucr All Al,":',",".':,-'!,':':.','-':.""; vitsclf should take from those to whom 'I Legislation Makes More f"""e Ithcy had been given. . _. , Mr. Beck pointed out that this was Bill Will he Amcnttcd-.A Purina-I not the purpose of the section of the I Conference. I Iact at all. and this would not be the _ . Icffect of it. I ------- I I . "Then if this section does not do , I that." returned Mr. 'Anglin. "it is of _ I r. . . _ _ no effect. And if it does I wish to ragga: 1'1, finite the throng that) say that in my opinion the section I _. ff. m the Jtnilwuy t'ommittcc I must be qualified as a piece of perni- i.'s,'Cl't'),,'i1,i1,ly L:gislnture yesterday, it I cious] legislation. dishonest and im.. Si't?f JI (e a ight (j lar i; -s, mora .' I the one side was arrifed 21:02:: On I "That is enough," replied Mr. Beck! electric Com -. . . e MIN-I 'at this; "we don't want that sort ofI . I __ m1ssion to hcar protests language here." ', y5a."y't and defend the le'Iislzition: F "We are only here," returned theI. r which is being sought in the amend..' ; Chairman, "to hear objections to the I ments to the 'Power-comm/ss/Orr', '4'! Ibill. We are not discussing the act land the municipal francl is "f.',': ( -,' 'nOiV. It has only just come from the fathered b r 7 C i so "Cr, both "., iprinters, and it is gonng to be. amend- . . J Hon. Adam Rock. On 'ed." I .. e the other side was an imposing 11ml-" I .A further conference will he held up of eminent counsel, headed 1' .' between the Commission and a Sub- Hon. Wallace Nesbitt ICC, 1 ,,.,'C',r committee representingthose present, a brief, as he t- , _ . C, "MUM; at which certain amendments will be hi - s ated, for 1.'Jii' fran.., drafted, and the operating difficulties 1 c 1505 representing an investment of of the legislation discussed. , 285,000,000; Mr. A. W»'-Anglln KC ser-er-rev-ere-tEre-s-cr.:-.--. 1 =. tor the Toronto Electric Light Com: 133/". aiu ' 7 ---.---_-----,

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