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|{«inderstood policy of the department What a strong body of public senti-- \ | that there would be no compromise ment has registered itself in favor of with anyone in regard to the enforce-- curbing the liquor traffic. Both par-- ment of the liquor license law. ties in this House recognize that local The Provincial Secretary retorted option alone is not equal to the task to the statement that the Govern-- ;'lf curbing the traffic. Tt is a fact € moent had -- deserted its colors with Elat ithis House is a unit in its ex-- C the charge that the Liberals had nail-- M ki elhen it 1NO" 1 rimer 'edile-- | f'd theirs to the fence ang attempted j Outlining the Liberal policy, Mr. | o straddle the fence. : i Rowell said it was a widely recogniz-- | Other speakers were: Dr. Jas. ,}}"" ed fact that the bar was the strong-- 7 Queen (North Wentworth), Mr. C. R. hold of the liquor traffic, and that in 3 | McKeown (Dufferin), Mr. R. J. Mc-- and around it lurked most of the 3 | Cormick (Fast Lambton), Mr. Wm. eviis that were hurting the Province. o | McDonald (Céntre Bruce), and Mr. The Liberal method, he said, was to Allan -- Studholme (Fast Hamilton), abolish the bar. The (}o\'ernmflnt's: ? Mr. Hugzh Munro (Glengarry) moved method was to abolish the treating in | the adijournment of the debate and the bar. | will continue the discussion when it "Our remedy a year ago," declared is resumed. Mr. Rowell, "was to abolish the bar. | f It is exactly the same to--day. T | | Two Amendments. wonder if the Government has chang-- ; ] Two amendments were dntroduced, ed its attitude of a year ago or if it§ f s one by Mr. Hanna reiterating the is the same." He pointed out that| * 8 position of the Government last year, t.}}ert'e;' \\'are dou'l')tletss ;n;mfy members | f in ¥ O e overnmen whno avored the § and another by Mr. T. Herbert Len-- abolition of the bar, and who, if they' | f nox (North York) expressing appre-- were free to vote as they thought, f clation of the administration of the would vote for its abolition. Party ' | § Government during the past eight ;(':lsin;}':: he said, made it impossible f A if vears, and deprecting that the tem-- There had been, Mr. Rowell point-- ; perance question had been brought ced out, many resolutions adopted by : into party politics various bodies throughout the Prov-- & * * ince calling for the abolition of the some surprise was caused by the bar. non--participation of Hir James Whit-- s ney in the debate so far. In reply to And the Premier Smiles, 3 pposition -- taunts that he was not Mr. Rowell----My hon. friend the f speaking, Sir James advised the ib-- Premler smiles, but I ventura to thirk bs $ eral members to have patience. The that the clergy and laity of this Prov-- -- faect that the proposed amendments ince who have worked so hard and wl are but repetitions of those introdue-- «o unsgelfishly to benefit human con-- ed in the disenssion last year and ditions should be entitled to'a hearing s that a Conservative cancits is called "m"t.his momentous question. x to meet this morning ilends color to Bir James Whitney--If my hon. p the belief that the CGovernment has ;r::n;;] will wait a minute T -- will § not made up its mind what course to rowit. $ ; o 1 persue and is unable to meet the Mr. RO""'""U. 'entm@" 7'0 tm."k 1 p Iiberal challienge that my hon. friend has frowned in-- . y wardly many times since T commenc> TFhe second Tinme. od this afternoon. ¢ ce i¥ se' i --The Liberal leader then reviewed Phis is the second time," said Mr. c 6 Rowell, "that | "'...\(l l;:::l'thfl;im\lljr s§me of the local oplion contest re-- $ of presenting the Liberal policy on sults las'_'!"""?'-\' There "pf'f C | a the question of the liqueor traffic. _ I municipahfies voting CA the. t\ ~law. submit that the whole problem of how Twenty-slr_\' of _ them «'arf1ed it, 37' best to deal with this is one of the had a majority but failed to carr; most important questions that can en-- it owing to the thren--nfths '.']a";,:(." "!"d gage the attention of this House." Its 14 defeated it h""-f straight "1""""""." ' evils, he said, were recognized in all In s;h'o.rf, out of 77 contests 63 muni-- & ol , eivilized communities, and a study of cipalities f-']*louml a majority for thfi(f} P ® the legislative records of all civilized by--law with only 14 uF:;'unst.' This | e countries showed that all of them had was a remarkable record. as showin's | ' endeavored to do somethng to curb the trend of public senfiment. -- In re-- | L the traffic. The®leader of the Oppo-- peil conlesLls 16-- 'munlcipalities sus-- l > & M sition declared he had no preconceiv-- tained the by--law, in five it was sav-- | ed notions as to the best wav of deal-- ed by the three--fifths clause, and one | ing with the problem.-- For-- years municipality repealed the by--law. | !';, the legislation had been based upon Indicating the scone of the Liberal | hok a consideration of it from the stand-- policy, Mr. I'.m}ell said that out of i point of morality and religion. In #35 municipalities the retail sale of o later years these two appeals had liquor would be wined out in all h"t% t been re--enforced by others quute as §3 or 84 municipalities, which com-- s\ practical and far--reaching. Appeals prised largely the larger towns and ' h % were later made for the promotion cities, and here it could be done w l)'n ' F ic and conservation of public health, and a sufficient body fi'f public oaminion | F in answer the demand for greater ef-- became aligned against the traffic. | ficiency in industrial and commercial Mr. T. H. Lennox (North \orkr«l (k. life . Why do you not abolish the shop li-- | is Mr. Rowell referred to the state-- censes? iT " i/ ; l = e ment made by Sir James Whitney last Mr. Rowell----If you will join with | L * year when the question was before [ us we will wipe out the shop licenses » ts the House, to the effect that there ; too. § was not a rising tide of public senti-- en m . 4 ment in favor (i the uholl)itinn of ?;"_ ]Bar the Source of Evil. -- $ bar, and that the high--tide had been Dealing with the two remaining > Wieh, .. reached twenty years ago. Mr. Row-- I planks in the Liberal platform -- Mr. %, i & ell declared that by this statement the i Rowell said that the Liberal party ® WB Premier had shown he had not kept stood for the strict enmforeement of + B ¢ pace with modern thought on the lthe law by men in sympathy with the + f vroblem . He qugted eminent British 'enforcement of the law, and for the I"'}'Si"'BNS-_'!"Cl'L}dmg Dr. Sims Wood-- elimination of political influence from ¢ head and Sir Victor Horsey, showing | the administration of the present law. '» -- the views .nf British scientists as to 'Thv evil effects of political influence 4 ;]l:)'; P"}It ';g:'("]': t%fo i;'du'Se"S"_""' 31\""' | were clearly shown in the case n{ the f able to ('m;lbat cg ].lLlIM" (.l._-btel13 -u]tln-' License Inspectors and License Com-- . educed 'the" vigor ease and gencrally missioners. _ Me favored giving the M PeQu uC C Y1gDT: Inspectors sufficient territory to cover & The Fight in Ontario. and sufficient pay to make it worth $3 'rurning 'to present condit! s while for the Inspector to give his T onfario ith 3'9 d';'t; 'Eon thlons' in \\'})ule _nme~ to his duties. As to the ; '" j ( gard _ to 6_. fight |Licensing Board under the. system v R against the liquor traffic, Mr. Rowell droposed by the Libersals MtY. Row-- e 4. said there had been much progress is acree on o esd ira e veat & . 6 nc Nexive ell said such a board would be largely _ ® o« in the Province in limiting the area i cessary. but he favored making it We > within which liquor was sold . QOut ,nm?((fe. imagagitobe ,'9. . '"P.)m'l "5, of the 835 municipalities in the Pro-- free rqm pph,t".(" mflum}u. "? td.\- § < vince 502 were dry, 123 held up by m'eq the am)qintr.nent of men repre-- the three--fifths clause and 333 were senting both parties on the board, fo 3 wet. The relation that this bore tn make political intrigue impossihle. He & the poptulation of the Province was also favored such regulation and in-- 3 that 1,.090.502 people resided in dr§' spection of hote's in the Province as <¥ municipalities and 311.460 in munici--} \\'oul'd keep them up to _the standard + palities which had voted to become: re(ml:'e_*d for the convenience of the c# dry, making a total of $1,401,960. travelling public. _ My 9 There were in municipalities under I _ say to this Government, said 3 license 1,121,31% people, leaving a | Mr. Rowell, in conclusion, "that many §: majority of 252,000 under local op-- | of its members believe in the policy tion and those who had voted to be-- of abolishing the bar. If they were * come dry. treelgromtpa{tlsa'n consid;?lrations fl"ll(',\' t3 {+* t P wou vote for It. T ca upon the . Further Legislation Needed . Government to join with us and wipe ; '"This is a © remarkable showing." out the curse of the open bar." ' fi said~ Mr.. Rowell. "in that. it shows