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m-----' P CBe "W"Ww' a TT 1 w---'Tvv <mqwma 4 :m{, ) k T T TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 1915« M MEN'S VOTE | OPPOSED BY MINISTER property worth $100 would :'mve :ne| right to vote. /In the case of own ng | Hon. Mr. Lucas Presents Ar-- of 'sceupeing a houre of $200. both | s woman and husband would have thisl uments Agamst Measure right. That was going fairly far. It) 8 was argued why should an unmar--| 1 ried woman with property have a vote | Advocated by Mr. Tolmle! id Then ies she wets murried the t loses the right to vote? but Mr. Lucas Ml'. ROWC" and Othersl took the view that if what was adviu- | . 1ot1'.* s @4 vated were adopted inconsistenc es | Point Out Possibilities in would not be removed. Ir stead ofl Faving one they would int.rodncelotl.ler | R inconsistencies more glaring. He in--| Reform I stanced the transienst tenant \\'hoi I comes into a town and rents a house§ t ls i worth $200.. Both he and his wife would have the vote, but the home-} Arguments not strictly confined 10; keeper, who built ]hlslowln Il'lq'us'e,l a110} 'e advanced in the owned his house, ard who had it in the subject were advanced ie his own name, would only have one| Legislature yosterday when the see--| vole | ond reading of the bill to extend thc; On the property and representa-- municipal franchise to married wo--| tion argument. Mr. 'I.uvas S'J,ld' the men was discussed. Wpeakers, parti--| present law did rot in any 1edlfsen'§e f "over :ide, | recognize the representation of pro-- culariy those on the Government si( : perty. The man with $100,000 pro-- launched on the subject of yomeil 84 perty had just the same right to vote suffrage in general instead of ('Onfll.l-f as the man. who . walica ; in and | ing their remarks to what the bill! bought a $100 vacant lot. | specifically proposed. In the absence,} Mr. Studholme--W hy not? o recdra Mss J. o. Hon. Mr. Luecas stated he was rot through indisposition,. o in use C# arguing along that ling. --but was Elliott (West Middlesex), in """'-"?C' merely showing it was not a question name the bill stood, Mr. J. C. Tolmm'i of representation of property. (Wi®#WPWr) moved the second rcadi![lg"fi Voter's Permanent Interest. N ; incing s h. Hon. Mr. 5 L A soonyid C e spQ'('C l' 7 ° '('i. Mr. Lucas said there was some| Lucas, the Attorney--General, ()hlfh C PFHH'iple behind the [Bresent basisl] the -- bill. Mr. Sam Carter (South tor voting, but it was not the property | Wellington) supported the hbill. and| :)usn's. ,'I hc) aini ]was to have an elec-g f rocky ) josed it.| orate to whom they could appeal who | e phorati D1 Of (H"C', UP' o 5 d? were likely to have some permanent Mr, Rowell was the last °"e'"{c". ang | interest in the locality. 'That prin-- after addressing the House for a, ciple was not perfect, but it was more short while stated he did not intend| :oarln' so tbhan tan_\; argument that they | f NHFIC} after ; 'ere representing property in the| 5 'ther © rnoon. and | to speak lua.ln(x that dll'L 6 )H 3 | present system of voting. The presert| moved the adjournment of the House, ; bilt. was only 2. Step,. but the final | which was agreed to. j QOdfl as proclaimed by the advanced . o mpy [ suffragse societies, was participation w ® ) * Sss & s Justified by Plebiscite s cA in ail branches of Government in the. In openit® the debate, Mv. Tolmie| courtry and in the national life of the | alluded to the plebiscites which had | country on the same basis as men. | taken i lifferent munivipulitiesi \"Verc they prepared to take even the | been .ak'nn in diffe e Ee es o¥ | _ first step to the final goal? g and the favorable voto ?n ev Cl\}'l(l'du(.l'lz j M,r'_ Tolmie--If would like to ASk | what was p)'opu;'s'?(l l)b' .tl.nc »ll. fendel the Minister if we have not taken the | mainlained the bill was in no sc 2y first step already when we have given | revolutionary. Great Britain \Nd§ P;t | the voting to widows ard unmarried | ceedingly careful in regard t-)'l»sg women ? | legislation, and .hc, qi(.ifn%t,t,h}r:)fi&xg! Hon. Mr. Lucas----Yes, to some ex-' wouid go far a'.btrd'\~ .1'1l(]]£'\'n\ in th/isi tent. (Opposition laughter and ap-- o nc C (;)-m. 'd'.u.l .nd'} .f,' (;,\» Great| plause.) But, as I pointed out. the! x?g.ttc;r. Mor '\Cd,'-:'- SC_O-l h. ~';('tiv"ily; aim behind that was to secure some--| b;ltam had hnfl .lf.lt,\ur;f -l?l"nm'i'o o:ed f thing of a permanert eclectorate, notl 6f the nature which this hi & fnl 1 | to represent property. The import-- i in _ New Zealand apcl}ix,\usttxa}zva;) ]tclfi: ant issue is:; what is the next step ? | granting (')fd th: tfi]saf:;(t"LloF:S Oux;d "he; My honorable friend has said Britain | had DPU'i"l ]Ma;iql'la.tlnxvro ug,?ho({ld take| has granted what has been asked. thought this Legis] ampa rpcad s Had that made the suffragists quiet? a forward step. 'The speaker recog [ o oay Noi k ' # 1 t had only stirred up a militart agi-- nized that they should be exceedingly fation. "'Phey wWant more ! careful in extending the franchise.' -- } t , | but he did not think anyone would!| Women Indifferent. | say they were taking away any of its| ds o had U sacredness or sanctity when they ex--| Dealing vith the general quesuon' tendcd that franchise to women as| of woman suffrage, Mr.. Lucas de--' well as to men. It seemed to him| clared the great mass of women ap--| they could find no class morse intelli-- ; peared to be y1d1ffgr¢nt as to the ex-- | g'en't. more capable, than the women{ ercise of the 1t"an'f-hlse. _In (,.alifor.ma,l to whom they would extend the vote| where women's franchise was given through that bill. | in 191i1, only 27 per cent. of the avail-- The Prime Minister had said it was| able women registered, as compared by no means certain the women want--| with 93 per_ cent. of the men. He cd the vote. "How are we to find out| twitted the Opposition with throwing the women want it?" asked Mr. Tol--| out erumbs of comfort to the ladies mie. "They have petitioned for it,| so that they might engage in guer-- their husbands have voted in favor of| rilla warfare against the Governmert. | it, How are we to find out they want! Fais x gof { to exercise the vote? The only way and | The YVoice of Guelph. the simple way, it seems to me, would | Mr. Sam Carter (South Welling-- be to give them an opportunity of ex'l ton) said the Aitorney--(General had oreising it. 1¥ do not know of a single| gone over the question widely, gently | objection that has ever gone to this| and yery inconsistently. "He also," Government or any other Government | declared the speaker, "touched the against extending the municipal fran-l matter very like a Conservative, and chise to married women who owned I must frankly admit I am the oppo-- and possessed property." ! site of a Conservative. We are asked e es | whether anyone asked for this. -- I m s ' Ninister Opposes BHI } can only say the city [ come from | Hon. Mr. Lucas, as at last session,| (Guelph) voted with a large ma--| was the chief spokesman against the| jority in favor of it, so there is somel bill. He commplimented Major Tolmie! sentiment there." on the "very reasonable and satis-- The arguments which had been factory manner'" in which he had dis-- used against the nill were the same cussed the subject. asg those advanced 'n 1832 to keep Proceeding, the Attorney-Generall the franchise from the common peo-- said the intention was to give to anyi ple. He iooked at the cuestion from married woman owning or occupying | the moral side, and instanced the property the right to vote. In a vil-- | : case of Tllinois, where the women Jage any woman owning or. o_ccupying! had played a decided part in wiping » «*