The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 30 Mar 1917, p. 2

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' - _ . 6ttthgtatt in these few short . _ $0 g',It'l',gti a... it G'r'i"t 9 [iii/lit) _'l',t'ltt"d estimated " .360." iil o I and "dollar on account 000 ,a, 'ttttat the tttwent mu. And '.', » trv%','l'f,gS, " them com- this it. what Mr. Fleming, locum" _ . Ankh c " right to m diversion. calls 'tt tow buckets of water.' And a tnt",, av ry therefore. to make _ then tttpr ,.alr they "° mum," to G. L'J'tall.',T' said Mr Adam, "and pay 50 cent! per horse-power "latri . _ " legislation with- use of power amounting to 30,000. that we should ha out "at, and that the matter should horse-power. _ ' be considered from every standpoint. Very writable. . . l thereto". call the attention of the I derailment to the "sanity of pass- "They disposed. of over 3360.000 I in; tettuhstiort if It can be pasued," I worth of power without an additional j 1 linvestment of a dollar of money. The Order WIS Passed. operating costs are exactly the same. Ah order in Council was passed in They have no additional coat of ad- iMs declaring that the companies ministratciiont h01' mt,"1tl'ltyi1 TIU; . ract should be notified, and ever, an era a v , 0 ea 2r1, $.12:an then made limitingthe profit to this company top the utse 'water that the several companies of which they did not my five pet' were entitled to take, not to exceed cent. of the total amount. The amount 9,995 cubic feet of Water per second. of water they used was approx ma e- . ' ndertook to prepare rm est}- 1y 14,000 cubic feet per second. 22, to! the amount ot water still whereas in the order in Council lim- . available for the purpose of trone.rat- lied them to 9,985 cubic feet, or so ing power with a V262? to 'i'g'.e1',1?i'5. per 0:111. $3132; cdr,', 12teteu,',et t future needs o he mlmlcm' l- tity o wa e . . ' . . ":03." said Sir fee; t I And ytet he calls this a 'few buckets . ' resent overn men nttSt4P.t' of war er'.' wa"?,','),?,,?,',',',',' act to develop 't'/ie'i0,"iii1: Beck Not Responsible ' mmended by the Commisvdon, ' ' . ve, , 'duiefod', the estimates prepared by. Mr. Fleming had said the com-, i the engineers of the Commission. No "my was prepared to tro to the ' one had any conception or idea that courts, but that the moment 311th i. [ theae various companies would vio- wat, trutrtteated tlie Chairunan "t? late their agreement. would defy the the Hydro 'Comm'"i°". "moped toi _ orders in Council or the acts of' this' the Parliament Buildings to askl Legislature from time to time limit.. for mercy. I suppose he refers; , ing the use of water. The first inti.. to the}; t""ie,"t"if,'eue1,ato, 315112321 F mation we had was in the J."',',',).",,).' ('g',dfa'2,tdie,' td%"lu',2l,1't crime! . r 1916. when Mr. I '. 'UH-. I '. . " 2rg'2t!id'l of the Niagara Falls lProvincq of Ontario ty generate DOVE"; . ' . - mission advised the Chief at Niagara Falls. said Sir Adam. I "' Park Com ' I ' Engineer of the Hydro Electric Corn.. ,wish to my I am not reoonrsib1rrorl, ' mission that the Electrical lim'elop- an" v1'"r'/t't1"trieo,got,i"t,'g ',ty'ttyft'tro"rei, , l . were excecdil' _ the" i am no re . Mr-, . (.th',',t,,cf,',mll1',tu', ot water aid ml; (near-General not issuing a fiat. , llk J'd',i','dp'de,','t' of power within the the 1'At.fEetrfi,tee,r,ai if I asked him ' park. The Chief Enginoer Imported ti' "is: on? "deg,' said the mu..- ' the Commission as follows: . . . , tion for a fiat came from. the .Elec- .. Complaint of Water Theft. Aricat Development Company to tho "'I have the honor to mini m gnu 1e,'e,1i'2trQtnitor,inmt/"t'h'e"',t,t,1mt'tiri, 6:13;: l 2'13: i/.'1,jt,t.,yi1aavir, I? Siembf]: e11rb,cy,.'; 'Government. as well as himself and g Fall .Quez'n "Fiiii,'ifa' Pork ct?,)',','-)?,';',",.'). the officials of the department. they 5 Si'iorls telephoned to . infer-l»: me that degided it Eras not a case for granting _ . _ F _ ' a at at a . i, he had received a WWW from Mr. Mr Carter (South weliintrtottt--- Jackson, the Superintendent of the Therefore this does not hear out the r,' Dark, from which the following,' i.s an ' h u -h influ .. : excerpt: " hare Just. had an onuor- (ftaaeti""li',1ttrt/J1c,1upt d,nd",'neird'ieo,,Te.' ' gnnyitol "yg,',i,'lt the records of. the that purpose. .. z ectr ca eve opment Company, Sir Adam -ieeek---roaes mar take Iris ' ngich "in? gilierl fftm: the ISM lilonths (the Attotmeyieneral's) word. T do r. 1%'l'lf It: 5;: a: {lull canng the not ask them to take my word for t l', be {Win 5 .11 .t fl conlpgrny' anything. I am not responsible to ' 033 h l? 31:31:; 'tl5,",')'d"ttt 3; 3]:ng in JJ/dy" y":,,',:",:',.,'",-.' or alny of his; , [ . . _ f - . ' enc mien or asaoct'at.ei4.' am re a man-{01$ wing? it went upon occasion sponsible to the people of Ontario. l b, a: sh as . 2.00.0 hm. In August regard that as a sacred responsibility. ' :11; ram??? /,'lTJt'de',ty,.eotvs, 134,330 Chet men do not obey the orders . . " K . 'el' o e o the court," proceeded Sir Adam. ' extent of 148.000 hp. was developed "They say "Permit us to a l _ . ' go into the , On f11otta8l,t'.t, the load (hurts snow courts,' but they do not obey the orders C over , h.p. Mr. Ellis pomtcd of the court. There was an order - out that this company "as Violating of the Privy Council to remove the its contract to the extent of 't'pproxl- poles from the streets of the city ot . 2,h"'tet'2o0tfe.0 hit,' during Hcpterrmee iToronto, but these are jug: as firmly T ad .., d o er. so We are verbally 'rooted and planted on the streets as ' .Vi:::m 23'0er 'ill',,",,')',',,')'," )(Canadian {they were on the day that order was' - l r ompany that it lissued. The ordere in Council. the? promises at an. early. date to operate [acts of this Legislature. the agree-'. ' the No. 10 unit, which ls at. present [merits and contracts are mere scrapsi being .constructed in its plant. This it', paper in the minds of these pat-i ' . gill 51:32am company u. rated came. Iriotic and holy gentlemen." j Y o ,500 h.p. and an actual load , t " , capacity of approximately 108,000 cm." After "sa.'. V ho., or, 8,000 to 12,000 h.p. in excess Sir Adam again criticized the Cana- ' of the well recognized terms of the dian Northern, and said he would have F, 1urreement. for the generation or mothiryr to do with any proposed co- i - power within the park. This matter operation Ott the part of these men. l 8 brought to the attention of the "___ _ --'"-_---t--, Terr, , e Commission so that such action may ' be taken as is deemed advisable in ' order to protect the interest of the I 'Commission in regard to the use of ' ithe surprlus waters of Niagara. , ' Ellis Makes Confirmation. ' . l . "f called up Mr. Ellis and he con- 1 firmmt the statement he had madei ' P. Mr. Gaby." continued Sir Adam.' y asked him what he purposed do-l mg about the matter and he said he , would consult with the Government . and the Counsel of the Commission. He (Mr. Ellis) said it was preposter- _ one and inconceivable to him that the company should undertake to di- vert this water and appropriate it without the knowledge of this Com- mission. yet Mr. Fleming says 'We concealed nothing. therefore we did not steal anything.' "Let us as the actual value of the . water they took," proceeded Sir Adam. "At $16 per In). the figures are: June, 89.320; July, 39.320:- August,. 812.000; Sept. $24,000: lOct. . $25,300: Noe, 829.400. December. $29,400: January. 826.750: Feb., 831.- 700;' Min-ch. 838,200. or. a total at. {$230,000 water power dim-ed ot:

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