. ATUESDAY. APRQP S iyi6.t s _ _ _ TUESDAY, APRIL 15, 1919. « frdiineceeeommmmntrmmngs A % J Tz rnnmemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm m} * 11+ "more because of a longer haul." Amendment Ca"lng fOl': Mr. Macdiarmid said that a mac-- j *L | adam -- road would probably cost Details Before Money is ~Pout $5,000, a Hille, and a sravel § | road between $3,000 and $5,000 a Granted | mile. Referring again to the route Wlb ooo imom mt i | of the highway, the Minister said laberals in the Legislature yester-- ;:gt;du:fi SI;(I;:;:}: a%i?;féegac}:gdbe'f)gge day urged the Government to fur-- * making an announcement as to the nish the House with information as district the road would follow. All to the proposed route of the entire this il:ifor?tutivon h'd? 'ln("r 'Ztet *;fl'lef:| » rj & ty f s a secured. was no a matter d 3 rovincial highway, the plans and he himself decided, but it was a specilications of the various sectlons question upon wlich the Gd@vern-- of it and an estimate of the cost s ment as a whole came to a decis-- of the different portions of the thor-- ion. | The type of the road must | oughfare. They urged that consid--| be suitable to the traffic that is go-- g eration of a resolution, which was | ing to pass over it. Possibly 200 | before the House in committee, set-- f miles of the highway will be a pave-- | ling aside $5,000,000 to be used for ment or some other nermanent con-- | the improvement of public high-- struction, possibly 175 miles will be | ways, be deferred until after this of macadam. The balance of the | information _ had been _ supplied. road, in his opinion, should be of | \\he_l,n their counsel was not heed-- gsravel. The construction of the | Ne «\t\lm (\le'hu(c,' .\ln-._J, ( %'llliott 'ul' road is not to be pushed ahead andf 'lt':l;gnl'llil:'lid{'lslb(:;\l]l('::é(;;)llell)'l(inutég\'elli':';:- "inished in ninety days, but the pro-- | ment supporters, however, following Fl.a,vl? tvrl.llf_extvnd over several years, | the lead given by the Minister of y Pronamiy 1iYe: * | Public Works, Hon. Finlay C. Mac-- The Dominion Grant. | diarmid, defeated the anendment s | and carried the resolution. -- Sub-- While there had been some talk} sequently a bill to amend the On-- of the proposed Dominion grant not | tario Highways Act, based on the being forthcoming, he had no in-- | resolution, was introduced by Mr. -- fortnation on the matter. It had Macdiarmid. The Opposition Lead-- T been said they would pay about 40 er, Mr. Proudfoot, hinted that more per cent. of the cost, and he trust-- | would be heard from the Liberals ed that would be true. The more nnq[}l'm seco?d reading of the bill. the Dominion Government grants, he resolution seemed to be on the less the counfies will have the verge of slipping through with-- « pay, probably not more than ;\5 pct(n)'? j\:'nt }a'";],uestion being raised, when cent. of the cost. [ har(i dleci(:it(;da(b)ge:lhétr:)}:l(:e%(;:'vfl:gT'figf -- R.eplyl.ng to. finother question, 'Mr. | Vincial highway west of London. Macdiarmid said that each county He urged that this information would probably spend abgut 3100-'_ should be given before the resolu-- 000 on good roads; on 33"00'900 m, tion was passed. all, there being 37 cognties in the The Minister of Public Works re-- scheme. The _ Province's share plied that the route west of Lon-- $ would be about 50 per cent., or $1,-- don had not been decided upon. 800,000, out of the $5,000,000. House Entitled . to Know _' imay ihe Governiment ned.to tive Mr. Elliott replied that the House the House more information. Sure-- was entitled to considerably more in-- ly it was not the intention of the formation than it had at the pres-- Government, he said, to pay as ent time before it should be ex-- much per mile for constructing the. Sl?'t')tecrll to .pass Lpe resolution. _ lle 200 miles of concrete as it cost to is ngly urged that thg Government build the Toronto and -- Hamilton should do more to assist the people highway. "If so it is going to be a in the back townships building suit-- vei*y :er.ious undertzt'l'i:'n T Pn d able Jlé'zu'ket roads. They would be clafreda ns e AC-- in a tion to the resent count Half a road system. He bel{)eved the rura); j Hhalf a dozen members took part district in the past had had to o uon debate before If Lo nded. In-- shoulder too great a burden in con-- cludlrng Oe norke 6 femy, Mr. nection with the highways, ai-- J. W. Widdifield of North Ontario, though he agreed with the policy o Mr. Sam Carter of South Welling-- the r'rovincial highway. Mr. Iy-- fon, Mr. Wm. I\I('D(?nalcl of North liott referred to the 'road policy of Bruqe. a'.qd Mr. --Beniah Rowman of New York State, and quoted from Manitoulin. their annual reports to show -- the Salary Instead of Feés. assistance given there. He pointed ns 3 out they had township roads, which A resolution of Mr, Wm. McDonald ' were what he styled as market roads caused an interesting discussion, | in this Province. which teeminated when the member | Replying to the criticism of the fpr North Bruce withdrew his mo-- | West Middlesex member, Mr. Mac-- tion at the request of Hon. I. B. diarmid said that the resolution did flucag. it expressed the oninlon that not apply only to the Provincial . County Crown Attorneys, Registrars highway, but it also incladed--statu-- and. Sheriffs should be paid a galary tory obligations under the Highways in l'leu of the present «> stem of fe?'q' Improvement Act. reamktine j 'lhe Attorney-Geperal said he was inclined to agree with Mr. McDonald Ascértaining Costs. that Crown Attorneys should be on "We h ts . 4 a salary. However, there were many 1 e z;-ye now reached the period difficulties which stood in the way, when it is desirable that the enter-- and he enumerated them. They in-- prise should be carried on," declar-- | cluded that if an official was not paid -- ed the Minister. '"The undertaking | by fees he might be inclined to get should be proceeded with along ']azv. 'Nor did he think the com-- sound bysiness lines, not with a mutation system, as suggested by the y'pw to constructing the whole route mover of the resolution, would be a | n one year. It is, as 1 have said success. Nor did the Attorney--Gen--| before, difficult to furnish detailed eral think the positions of Registrars ' information with regard to the ' in different counties could be amal-- exact cost with any particular type !gamated. as there is considerable of highway. The location, the '\ jealousy in the different counties length of the whole, the width of | over such positions. | the road--all these enter into deter-- | _ _ Mr. Proudfoot disagreed with the, * mining the cost. So it is very dif-- Attorney--General. He thought the] ficult for us to say just what any | Crown Attorneys could very well be1 particular mile of road will cost paid by salaries. 'The fees could be | until that mile is constructed. We turned into the Prpvmce. and thej, know in a general way that a con-- officials could be paid jointly by the | crete road, built under favorable counties and the Government. It| conditions, 15 feet in width, cost was not so impoftant to nay the; __.$18,000 a mile in Essex last year Sheriffs and the Registrars by sal-i The next mile would probably cosi 'ary as it was the Crown Aittorneys.