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Province had not even got a Domin-- | _ bu ion Franchise Act at gthe present s Tyibute +o Ftowell. | time upon wnich the electorate could i Sam Clarke, Liberal member !orl ¢ act. When Hon. Mr. Raney express-- * | Northumberland, opened his striking n ed the opinion that the vote would laddress with a tribute to the efforts a, e be taken on Provincial lists, Mr. * _lof Hon. N. W. Rowell on behalf of ie Dewart answered: "Oh, thers are |temperance. Recalling the days of s ge plenty of jokers in this act.'" the abolish--the--bar controversy, he € $s Concluding, Mr. Dewart again said reminded the House that all the 355 * it was not the desire of the Liberal eloquence of Hon,. Mr. _ Rowell, Mr.l f party to hamper the submission Otl Proudfoot, himself and the balance & referendum, "but rather the de-- | of the members of the Liberal party. E sire that the atmosphere should be of that day could not make a single| : -- cleared. We desire to state our posi-- convert from the _ Conservative | tion with reference to this matter, benches opposite. To the a.muse-|' E: and leave the responsibility where ment of the House, he contrasted | e-- it should be, with the Prime Min-- himself with the Hon. Thomas Craw--| > ister of this Province and the Cabi-- ford. "I vote temperance, and I do} fae . net that supports him." y as I please myself," said Mr. Clarke, i 6 Hon . George 3. Henry -- pro-- "Hte i'; good all the time, but ?e dogs ¢ ested in the first place that, con-- not always vote ter'l:xperance or the e trary to the expectations of Hon. | good of the people. s > » * ¢ y # 9 H. Ferguson, the temperance debate '"'The Conservative party, con-- n did not proceed on Friday after-- tinued Mr. Clarke, "came back here s noon, when Hon. Mr. Fergy c with the vote of the liquor people § pected to give his '-}ex;;.el ts procead. and 50 per cent. of the vote of the ~ ed to defend the ()niério !I)'!;(;fi()'or: femperance _ people. We 'did. not | s ance Act from th miti C t h get the temperance vote. And with-- e :: :s Dewart, and su e ('tll t ('ism;s _nf Mr. in two years they got conversion-- said had been t{',ffii.n'"}fi;, '}h,"'h he ' instantaneous _ conversion." _ The &-- bers on both sides, that th y V""}'lf}i- | Hearst measure, which abolished , not been a success j abragaet ecerything, in the opinion _of Mr. ' i * | Clarke, was, he said, one of the most f § Henry Opposes Referendum. | s'e'-lz-}ilous rgisfia'l'ces made gt that time. § 1 s "I am not goin $ | * ey abolished everything except| % o 1 submission of Eu rififx(')m:';lll)l?lurltln:ll:j: what you might get through a | C ' this resolution under the existing| doctor, by making a liar out of f ~=A circumstances," Hon. Mr. Henry de.| him, and making a lar out of your-- p> >A clared. "In the first I)lfl.('l' I n.]n (.:'" self, an?v paying a& tribute for what $ ' the opinion that the only constitu--| _ you got, $ t:mnl way the Government can as-- Would Have Kept Shops. -- + sume responsibility for any measure Mr. Clarke believed that the shops « | g;'*%t;]"'g(fhl?' House is for a member should have been maintained. '"Not s e Jmcrmn'vnn to submit it to the bars!" he added. "Properly re-- the House, and for that reason I am gulated shops under Government not going to eupport the resolution, control--no humbug of control, but o because the first principle we are business control, where the man who f \ standing for as a group in this got a bottle of liquor and abused 8 House, and I think we represent a it would be put on the Indian list." large opinion in this Province, is In passing, he complimented John that we must have constitutional O'Neill for '"one of the most frank 3 Government.'" and honest speeches he had ever | _ He accused Hon. Mr. Raney of listened to." If the shops had been f | "'quibbling" when he suggested that maintained '"until the people had p | a stated case could not secure au-- become naturalized" to the new con-- $ < | thoritative legal opinion in less than' / ditions, Mr. Clarke believed, On-- | two or three years. In Manitoba in tario would have had better condi-- $ 1901, he reminded the House, a tions than existed to--day. [ srated case was netroaA tar in naones "Unfortunately," he proceeded, ® [ ie Recsaumany mot ba mm miticg "we are governcd not by the Farm: - ! and decision secured in the sa.mo ers and 'Co. alfogether, but more or * mt d Nwaptbr less by too fanatical conditions in t y zear.'.lq pointing ,-th the dgmger Qf this Province of Ontario." (Ap-- § v submitting fur' rju_'«-rindum a meas-- plause.) '"It is no trouble for any + j uro.whosouleglht)' was (}«:UbttLll, he man who is absolutely good, or any deciared : tI'hvre is nothing that re-- womar who is absolutely good, to i y tards temperance as mu:.:,h. as going be good always. But the man who is \| beyond our powers or making a step % not as good, and the woman who is & | that proves itself ineffective." . S?t as good--different temperament, 2 | s fferent surroundings, different early #] Premiler Replics. . training, different atmosphere--they x < Premier Drury was. accorded a have to be treated as they are. warm reception by his own sup-- To--day we want to make all the peo-- ' porters. If the Hill amendment ple good. I do not think that is were carried, he declared, it meant good for humanity. I used to say +5 k that hereafter a private member that the man with the biggest heart e #. was to be debarred from ever intro-- and the man with the broadest mind & ducing important legislation. He re-- was the man who took a little drink." minded the Ottawa member-- that he M himself had introduced weighty leg-- A Sufficient Mandate, f islation when he introduced the Pro-- "I am in hopes that these two portional representation resolution amengments :vm }?e withdrawn. The f \ into the House. "Of course," de-- amendment to the amendment, to clared the Premier, 'I have not the my mind, is nothing. It is, to my slightest idea that the amendment mind, humbug. I ask any intelli-- ' to the amendment is at all sincere." gent member of this House or of 4 The carrying of the Hill amendment. this Province what is the difference ; he said, would strike a real blow at _ if a private member brings in a $ & the authority of Parliament in On-- gl}} oixé ttl;le ((}}overnment brings in a Fi6. ill, e Government says, 'We i taMr. Hill asked the Premier if he are with it, body and soul?'" As C had ever heard of a private mem-- ff)r the Brackin amendment, Mr. * ber introducing a resolution drawn Clarke said, its purport was simply f ~. up for him by the Government with «_ '"I see troubles ahead for you fel-- | a speech prepared for him by some lows if you put your nose into this; s member of the Government. "It was game without the lawyers getting at | F not at the instance of the Govern-- it and straightening things up forl . ment that Mr. McCreary submitted y'oH.v y | s it' retorted the Premier, "He sub-- _ WWhat difference," he asked, f mitted it of his own free will, and whether _ the _ Attorney--General E |\because he wanted to." makes a stated case and appeals to E: | all the courts which are necessary to k | Must Make It Appiy. ; get that put aside, or whether we : Dealing with the applicability of pass the referendum to--day? Don't Bill 26, he reiterated his view that you worry! If it is unconstitutional iA E: if the bill did not apply to On-- there are plenty of lawyers for the m p tarto the Dom#inton Government were i:quor mler}:1 to get hold olf to upset : it apply. "If the so quickly you won't know your ip p< !g:)ed::g"tohm:fd'ltuufer;ywn{ be z name. If it is unco_nstitutional, you 'little more certain to go out of ' if:yg'oing to get it in the neck any-- h+ I nt ' * «'(f 5'3:5 than they are at the prese daffi'gf'&';'% B:;l)i]eev?d {hStt"{f man. % e probability of delay in ast Octoaber was 'th:'::oti?rttsl,l Hgn. Mr. tgrur'y rem}l'nd- sufficient for any Government to act a y e \ed the House that to one litigant at '(')pon without taking a referendum. | $ hss 'least every day's delay in the courts f course, he commented, with re-- ¢ oys would be advantageous. And where giard to the new Dominion legisla-- x one of two litigants desired delay tion, '"we are the child and the | father is in Ottawa, and th is * decision was likely to be very long lows & ralgh ose fel delayed. He was quite willing, as a a re nl(;tis im & t'er than the Government, to take that one chance verage politician. |in & hundred of the letgmg.tlon be-- f Would Go Slowly. : ur * f 13!!8 upset in the co & Proceeding, he said: "That b&l]ot <3 3 > * |that we had last October, whether P _"*-- 4 I