The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 18 May 1920, p. 3

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s ther than to |\ + r "might be ""hfigéugl:in the House an from ~Southwest Toronto (Mr. rugah the thing t ding of the | m lettin this --matter stand ithout full understan haps Dewart) in le & 11. be :i,tuation and facts, and per until to--morrow, :hel!; t"I "("i'o flor!' * stake. re fully debated. u m??}é%:oggor;g question, as I sc;e :;' $§h % bg inderstood by anyone in . _ and as the Government Seeg'rilt' (s;m'- the Province that by so doing we exceedingly complex one. h lih Te are at all shelving the proposition. ernment has been in touch W The | We are letting it stand so that we Hydro -- Power CommibeiO:'l- (-on; | may get a more firm, more sure and Government }1]1&8 ?,i:?bifi{fet Kf this | more intelligent solution for it. ver the pos i e s gffx'i;l(:',l wohich, I think,. i: rzio'lvvoi%ftl}\]':' | Not Escape Responsibility. . way of being avert:(:. t'funl in gi\'ingf "One other question raised by the not been at all neglec atter 'h 'able member for Southwest our consideration to the matter. | ITg?c?xl)?o énd thal is avoiding Gov: Must Keep Within Figure., | ernmental responsibility. fIt1 slseezm;' [ s 4 this: The to me we are getting an awful lot o fAro-- Feocilrtiign';orsfgy' iCsommission ;lthat----avoiding Government respon-- E:s(l;(;m-gertaken a work of good Pro-- sibility by a Commission that ha.s: portions in order to supply o esed |power to act. I do not think this from Niagara Falls in increase« \ Commission should have power to 'quantities to the people of ""t'f'L';' act. I do not think the Government That development has already cost. can accept that condition. But 1| owing to reasons which I (.10 n}ut' do think, whatever cholce may be-- think I need go into before th« r deem wise House (everything suffers from it),. whether the House may Ciis mrem-- a great deal more than _ was an--. to appoint a committee o .. of ticipated. On the cost of that de-- bers or a Commission compose;' ne 7 velopment depends in the future a | outsiders to consider and repor thi great deal the industrial welfare o.f: | whole facts of the case--that is the Province. And the Hydro--elec--| ,(Jommission must be plzi;t(;df;::!wfl:s ied 1 e i tric Commission, wiscly, I believe, i])()b}txgn of nr;r:;rttinghoon Would Then has takemr the position that this de-- | this Gover $ nsibility. r 3 »xceeo ain have to assume the respons velopment must not exceed a certa |" fould suprest the de-- figure.> If it cxceeds that figure it 'I'herefore. I \n:ou sug.g:' C |is a question whether power can be | bate be left ov er'_to-'da). Falls. the , supplied to the Province at a cost i _ Mr. Swayze, Ala@ra us d 'llmu will be profitable, at a cost that | mover~of the resolution, expre.sse- | industries can afford to pay. I * }himselt' as content to lay over dis-- | think the HMydro--clectric Commission t cussion to--morrow, with the defin-- lis wise in taking that position. . As |ite promise that it would be taken {I understand it, and the Government !up then. Mr. MacBride, seconder, has consulted with the Hydro--electric | also expressed concurrence, in the Commission and the Chairman, the |interests of better understanding Commiéesion feels that it bas made the j and freer speech. Mr. Dewart then last offer, the highest offer that it expressed his appreciation of the l;osslbly """l wg t'h;' ";-p" (-n}g;:'u{':cd h; attitude of the Labor members, and that enterprise. "eeling that, andi C o * knowing t'mt the usual course of moved the adjournment of the Boards of Conciliation has been in debate. (he natlll'e ()f ('OnlDI'OmiS(', the m#endraemmunnmey m qromrmemmmuadncnamencrenre Hydro--electric -- Power Commission f has not felt justified in yielding to the suggestion for a board. | 8 '"'The Government may have an-- | other position to take in the interests, of the whole Province. The Hydro-' --electric Power Commission is strictly a business institution, charged by | a the municipalities, and more than| that, by the Government, with the| performing of certain work. It has tol look at it from a strictly business' standpoint. The Government must | also look at it from a much wider | standpoint than can the Hydro C'om-I mission. It becomes a question 01'i whether it would not be wise to f«)l-i low the suggestion -- made by the| mover and seconder of the motionl and appoint a Commission or a com-- / mittee. What form it should mke' I am not prepared to say --to--day. Probably-- if you will leave it m'vr' for a few hours we will be able to | say definitely to--morrow. | Regards Proposal Favorably. ; "And so I am not prepared to say to--day that the Government wouldl * ' endorse this Commission as it is : drafted, and, while I am prepared to' say I think it would be in the in--| terests of everyone that a few hours] more should be taken in the consid~-- | eration of this, 1 am prepared to say' . :-- that the Government at the present -- time regards favorably a proposal' _ for a Commission of Inquiry which f shall put the facts of the case before , the people. | &. 'i '"We must realize in dealing with 4 & * all strike situations that Boards ot' : xo Conciliation, arbitrations and any| other methods we might evolve are' . successful in their work only as | yed they put the facts before the peo-- ; ple, because in all strikes public S * f ? opinion is the court of last resort.' s It is a court we cannot get away' from. I think we are safe in taking | \ this position: that we must see to| it, in the interests of the success of f this work, and in the interests of | -- avoiding labor troubles with the Gov--/ *3 ernment (which, I think, would be a | A very bad example to set before the | people of Ontario), that the people | h: are made fully cognizant of the facts, c f that the people be put in a position / a to judge between the two parties. f k "I therefore have no hesitation in * * agreeing with the honorable gentle-- ~~~mommmmmenmiemnmnsommmmmnommmstmnmmmmmmcot ' * _ '

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