The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 5 Feb 1921, p. 1

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*Patronage" Has Large Place in Day of Recriminations In Mr, MacBride's first speech he was interrupted by Hon. Walter Rollo when he proceeded to read extracts from The (Globe and The Border City Star to support his claim that, at the Windsor meeting of the Trades and Labor Congress the Minister of Labor had stated that for Labor to press for eight-- hour--day legislation would involve losing the Mothers' Pensions Act. Hon. Mr. Rollo claimed the mem-- ber for South Brant had no right to as Mr. MacBride conceived such correspondenoe to relate to the ap-- pointment of Government Patron-- age Committees in each riding, it was explained by Hon, Mr. Raney that it concerned only the naming of 10 or 12 citizens in each riding to place upon questionnaires their views as to possible improvement in Civil Service administration. In one way or another Mr. Mac-- Bride occupied the centre of the Legislature stage during the whole of yesterday afternoon. The House did not reach the debate on the ad-- dress in reply to the Speech from the Throne at all, because, after the first issue had tbeen settled, Mr. MacBride proceeded to press his motion for a return of all corres-- pondente between J. W. Mallon and the Attorney--General. Where-- Attorney--General Raney became involved when he attempted to back up Hon. Mr. Rollo's conten-- ilon before Mr. Speaker, that Mr. MacBride had no vight to read un-- official newspaper extracts to prove his case. When, near the conclu-- slon of the controversy, Prenfier Drury arose to express the opinion that the member for South Brant had failed to prove his case, Hon. Mr. Ferguson and Mr. H. H. Dewart, K.C., both jumped to their feet. The Conservative _ Leader caugnt the Speaker's eye first ang he pro-- ceeded to criticize the Premuer's taste in deciding an issue which the HMouse and the clectorate only could decide, MacBride's Big Day. LIVELY BREEZE _ BLOWS ALL DAY INLOCAL HOUSE *'THE RETORT IN KIND" Labor's little internal controver-- «ies, which during the session have been bubbling up on the floor of the Legislature, overflowed yester-- day until they enguifed Premier, At-- torney--General, Minister of L@bor, Hon. Mr. Ferguson and H. H. Dew-- art, K.C. M. M. MacBride, who this session crossed the floor of the House to the Opposition benches, precipitated the discussion when he undertook to prove that Hon. Walter Rollo, Minister of Labor, was under tacit agreement with the Government not to introduce eight-- hour--day legislation. Member for South Brant Has His "Crowded k Hour" § sATURDAY, FEBRUARY 5 1921. °_ _ Mr. MacBride--If there is 'doubt I will go to the trouble lgettlng the shorthand notes of iWindsor meeting. # read the newspaper reports, but only the official minutes of the meeting. e appealed to the Speaker for ruling. Many Members Take a Hand. Hon. Mr. Ferguson--The _ mem-- ber for South Brant is entitled to bring anything he has to substan-- tiate his position. P . ¥r-- ianlea deene Hon. Mr. Raney,---- with the member from Hon. Mr. Ferguson vou would. PE VY CCOOAAELTCE Hon. Mr. Raney declared it was awbsolutely _ opposed to all Parlia-- mentary rulings to permit a mem-- ber to substantiate statements -- by "something written down by a re-- porter." 9 c w o iuis d s in Nmd | en' Palm Hon. Mr. Rollo--All right duce them. Hon. Mr. Ferguson again -- rose. It was a sorry spectacle, he said, to see in the Legislature a Premier or a Minister get up and draw 'con-- clusions for the Houso after a ques-- tion of privilege had been discussed. "I disagree entirely with the Prime Minister,'"' he said, "and------" Cries of "Order' interrupted. Hon. Mr. Ferguson----IL will move the adjournment of the House if necessary. Premier Drury--Wel!l, move it. Hon. Mr. Ferguson--If we are going to observe any decorum in this house---- Attorney--General Raney--Ordear. Hon. Mr. Ferguson--I am quite in order, Mr. Attorney--General. If my friend the Attorney--General will keep as closely to the rules of this House as I do he will keep him-- self pretty busy. poluo's The Speaker having ruled in the meantime that Mr. MacBride could reaqj the newspaper articles and ad-- dress the House within certain lim-- its, the member from South Brant retorted, "I bow to the ruling of Premier Drury made a brief ad-- dress, in which he declared that Mr. MacBride had not proved his charge against the Minister of Labor. "Speaking for the Govern-- ment," he deciared, '"it is not true. The Mothers' Pension Bill was not questioned, and was never a mat-- ter for bargaining at all.'"' Premier to the Rescue. The atmosphere once more clear-- ed, Mr. MacBride proceeded to read newspaper reports of the Windsor meeting, wherein Hon. Mr. Rollo was quoted as advising that "Labor should not jeopardize the chance of obtaining other beneficial legisla -- tion, such as the Mothers' Pensions Act, through pressing their demands for the eight--hour day on the Chip« pawa development.'" Hon. Mr. Ferguson--Surely the dignity of this House is to be main-- tained. The inference was that the member for South Brant was not sticking to the truth. Mr. MacBride--I demand a retrac-- tion. That is not a word one gentle-- man should use to another. I had similar slurs thrown at me the other day by the Attorney--General. The Minister must retract. Premier Drury attempted to pour oil oh the troubled waters by point-- ing out that '"stick to the truth'" was an admonition that might politely be directed to any member of the House. Mr. Speaker thought the Minister ought to retract, and the Minister of Labor did. Mr. Speaker and not to that of the Attorney--General." Hon. Mr. Rollo--If one paper is going to be quoted---- Members--Order! Order' Hon, Mr. Rollo --Others can also be quoted, and I want that under-- stood. Then Mr. MacBride proceeded to read a newspaper clipping to the effect that Hon. Mr. Rollo had told Sir Adam Beck during the Chip-- pawa development labor trouble that he would have a strike on his hands if he attempted to institute a more than eight--hour day. Then Came the Ruction. Hon. Mr. Rollo rose in his seat and denied that there was any dis-- pute a@bout the eight--hour day. "Stick to what is true," he told Mr. MacBride. 1-1;6.;-v"1'rom Grenville. Ferguson--I expected the trouble of take issue , pro-- is any the i

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