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The Liberal Leader said he did not think that the succession duties was the proper basis upon which moneys should be granted to universities. "Should the revenue of the Univer-- gity denend on the death of a certain number of people who happen to have a certain amount of money?" he asked. He contended that this was not a fair basis on which to deal with the matter. Succession duties, moreover, should not be for the bencfit only of the University of To-- ronto. Out of that revenue the Government had to deal also with charitable institutions. W. E. N. Sinclair, South Oxford, was against changing the name of the University of Toronto. Every He compared endowments left to McGill with endowments left to the University of Toronto, much to the advantage of the former, though he paid handsome tribute to the gift of the Massey estate. k Hon. Howard Ferguson extolled highly the report of the University Commission, and read extracts from it of private benefactions to the Uni-- versity of Toronto to show that that institution had not been dependent entirely upon Provincial aid, and had not been neglected in a financial way by the citizens of Toronto. Hon. K. H. Grant, Minister of Education, declared that the policy outlined in the University Commis-- sion report was the policy he would adhere to until some alternative policy was presented which he could rgcocept. He said that President Fal-- coner of the University of Toronto mad told him a week ago that there was no doubt that the University of Toronto would receive the $50,-- 000 grant from the Rockefeller fund. Presidsent Falconer had told him also that the capitalization of the million--dollar endowment had not been given to any university in Can-- ada for five years, and would not be given until universitiee complied with the conditions. Amicable Solution of Problem. Mr. H. H. Dewart said that West-- ern and Queen's Universities, with larzer endowments, could give the same education as that given in the University of Toronto. The House was satisfied that the Government had seen its way clear to arrive at an amicable solution of the financial problem of university aid. Dr. Hugh Stevenson of London said that the Government had done right in making the: grant it had to Western University. He thought that it would' become the Provincial untversity in a short time for the western part of the Province. It cost the citizens of London $1.75 a head to keep the Western University go-- ing. If the city of Toronto dupli-- cated that, he said, it would be providing $8600,000 to $700,000 a year. Extols Commission Report, MUST GIVE AID _ IN PROPORTION Two things the Province must re-- member in deciding upon a policy of ald to universities, Premier Drury told the. Legislature yesterday, in discussing the university estimates. One was the financial ability of the Province to pay. The other was a due sense of proportion between the universities and other educational institutions that needed support as well as universities. '"'There are a great many people in Ontario who never have seen and who cannot see the inside of a university, and we must meet the educational needs of Ontario in a manner to give due regard to all." APPROVE WESTERN GRANT Premier Says Claims of All Educational Institutes Must be Considered FRIDAY, APRIL 22, 1921, "Not for two smilingly said N ] The. _ATtnrAsi se e y e it Laldali5se3s in 'the police organization, the Attor-- !ney-(}eneral said that his plan was to have Provincial orficers the High )Constable in each county. -- "I am looking forward to making such a ! recommendation next year'" ha saiq Mr. Raney said that in lpointment of a Magistrate | pointee ought to have the c mOf every gantian" =~s) ir.t *"*You are not goi then?" inquired Hon son. Provincial Chief NimubufGlit «./ ud i Ni }{Hient (oOf a Magistrate the ap-- pointee ought to have the confidence of every section of the community. Mr. H. H. Dewart suggested that there should be a Magistrate located in York county outside of Toronto. Discussing proposed changes in t}1p naliaan walsuls 12 or1_ every section of t Mr. H. H. Dewart there should be a M "It is desirable that eventually the Province should take over entirely the payment of Police Magistrates," was the view expressed by Hon, W. E. Raney vesterday in the Legis-- lature in discussing supplementary estimates, Attorney--General Promises an Early Appointment Which Witi Satisfy PROVINCIAL POLICE T0 HAVE GOOD HEAD quate provision for the Universities Major J. C. Tolmie pointed out that the Province had now come to the parting of the ways with re-- spect to making proper and ade-- Continuing the debate after the dinner hour, Hon. G. H. Ferguson, drawing attention to the Premier's reference to "due proportion of ex-- penditure on education," said that out of a total revenue of $100,000-- 000 Ontario was spending only 6 per cent. on education. And of that total, he said, less than one--third was going to the Provincial Uni-- versity, the University of Toronto. While Queen's and Woestern -- had their field to work in, he thought their particular usefulness was along the line of elementary higher educa-- tion. Special attention should be paid to the Provincial University, he thought, to make it the centre for post--graduate studies. Too much money, he thought, could, not be ex-- pended on scientific industrial re-- search work. The Conservative Leader made eloquent reference to the necessity of high--class educa-- tional facilities in the interests of citjgex}ship_ and national welfare. «ollar spent on higher education would bring full returns. '"'There are two things the Pro-- vince must remember in dealing with this problem. First, the finan-- cial ability. We must cut our coat according to our cloth. We cannot be unlimited in our support. We are limited by what the Province can bear. *"'The Government has never con-- templated abandoning or strangling the universities of Ontario,'"' said the Premier. "Speaking for the men behind me, they have all recognized the obligation to the University. I speak particularly of the University of Toronto, because I recognize it is the Provincial University. Obligations Are Recognized. '"'Then there is our sense of pro-- portion. There are other education} al needs to be supported. I wish we had an unlimited purse--a purse without a bottom." Need for Research Work. Thomas Marshall, Lincoln, said the results of work done in the Uni-- versity could be brought to others by those who were in attendance at the University. The greater equip-- ment in the University, both in pro-- fessors and in facilities for work, the greater good could be effected by the students. Mr, Ferguson -- I tell you, you would go some then, wouldn't you? 10f Two or three months," Y said Mr. Raney. Attorney--General said he not going to * Appointment. year," he said to _ resign, & H. Pergu-- the ap--