The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 4 Mar 1922, p. 4

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TORY MEMBER ; | : _ RAISES STORM| ' | | _ en mememmen _ EXPLANATIONS ARE MADE\ A. C, Lewis, M.P.P. for Northeast Toronto, started a stormy time for himself yesterday in the Legislature when he made remarks that, Gov-- ° ernment --members held, reflected 'upon the Cabinet. Mr. Lewis was at ' the time discussing the Hydro vote ;for $3,500,000, and Premiér Drury appealed to the Chairman, Malcolm MacVicar, East Elgin, twice for a 'rullng as to whether Mr. Lewis 'should retract. There was a good deal of noise and crying of "order' by membvers, but eventually it was found that it was all due to a mis-- understanding, and the storm sub-- sided Too Important to Pass Over. Mr. Lewis said that the statement _ made by Colonel Carmichael (re-- garding his resignation). was unex-- 'pected, and if the Government had wanted the vote to go through that afternoon thé Minister should not' have made the critical observations he had. He opposed the passing of the vote at that sitting, he said. He thought the Minister without port-- fblio should get more information d and figures on the cost of the whole | scheme. ks | Colonel Carmichael said he * had | tendered his resignation because he-! had not sufficient confidence in the | 'estimates that had been submitted / | in the past. Did it not follow, he !asked, that in any estimates sub-- \ mitted now he would have the same 'ilack of confidence? | _ Mr. Lewis said it was his duty to give the final figures, whether he liked it or not. Colonel Carmichael answered he had resigned because he had said once that figures were final that were not final. He did not want to do that again. Mr, Lewis' rejoinder to this was that if all Ministers were so punc-- itilious as to resign every time any 'of them made a misstatement the Treasury benches would be emtpy. Retraction Demanded. This brought the storm. Hon. Mr. Biggs and Premier Drury de-- manded a retraction, and the Prime Minister appealed to the Chair. Chairman -- MacVicar's ruling was that Mr. Lewis should retract or substantiate his statement. Hon. Howard Ferguson came to the --rescue of his follower and ex-- | plained that Mr. Lewis was referring to estimates in which anyone might make a mistake. This did not satisfy the Govern-- ment memibers. | "Are you man enough to take it back?"* demanded Mr. Biggs, and when no retraction was made Mr. Biggs said then that he was not man lenouvgh. This led to a demand from Con-- servative benches for a retraction -- from Mr. Biggs. Finally the Prime Minister smoothed matters over 'by | repeating what he thought Mr. Lewis had said, and Mr. Lewis denied havy-- ing uttered such words. The North-- east Toronto memiber closed his ad-- dress by affirming strongly his faith in Sir Adam Beck and the Hydro movement.

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