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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 30 Mar 1922, p. 2

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. I 'I-.- """t ", - MP'""-."'""-""--"'"""'""""""""""""'-"""'"'" " . _ w 357.71,, , EVidence showed proceed T ' J . ed Mr. . 32:13:. 'ht, the Shevlin-Clarke - ny, ro cut 'ltl%G'i'l' 3e? otto J,,',,','),. IQ Put Government trt Dock. _ . paid for or reported to the Govern- After saying that some of the re- . merit, and he estimated this was; marks of Mr. Tolmie were inspired ' worth, with interest. five millions, by a desire to get at the Attorney- . or, if the price fixed in the recent . General. Edgar Watson, North Vic- cgurt Judgment was used as a basis. toria, asserted ' vigorously the im- ( u',"", would run up fairly well portant thing to remember was that 2 t8,'l,J"llh'e'iu "I/tth, figures dsuch l if the 'e/if/nt-de,',"'..: CompanydstOOd ' ' 3 GYM! my In the dock to ay accused an con- * shenanigans the Government victed, the fif'Jfornglg',tt "ke,'; 135.2;- t " " ' . ince of On aro mus san _ . cute/gt (ylf,T/1tf J31. the alongside it. h th tl t th d k." i ap- "Let them tt ge n o e oc ' oal e " ' 5am. 'htT'h/?' 2123?. 'a',',','",',','," bhte "a" Mr. Tolmle. G tor. he argued. to have fought (fut l Mr. Watson exonerated Hon. I. the [FT. Ferguson from any deliberate I case to a. finish in the courts h alt . than to have made the settlement wrongdoing, hut he thought t e . - '1: "On the figures, no Government ii nation and timber dealing methods . Justified in accepting such a Git/i were loose, and perhaps the heart of 3 sum as this." y ,"flr. Fergusoin leaniednha little to: _ l much to gent emen n is own par .'. . [ .Often Sued in Minnesota . i V A . If there was any culpability because - , - (r These same peo le co '" of the price paid for the timber, then b lumber companies T, Mi:,;;gy:: the Province of Ontario had to share i' Mr. Sinclair proceeded. These Min: in the burden. i' nesota companies had been br ' new? le, State courts 55 "mg-Suit}; ought, 'Piet/lt,",',':,,,, Nonhumber , e nite ' A ,1 _ - f 77 times. 1,rstJtet',a,n",1,rt1ceyy/ land) gave the Government of the T f Th - " o ier of- day cr'edit for accomplishing a good - t enses. ey fought the cases there, i f k f th P . "f _ and when they saw the authorities ID ece f) wor or. he rovxnce. t meant business they made a ttl - Ethink. he said, t at we ought JP t merits. _ e e itret more, but we are getting 11 mil- t Co l glion and a half more than we ex- T mfif,'t"'l)'edPfaM,prdtct/ar,, Itil 13:1; , pected to get. Mr. Clarke advocated i settling these large matters for these ly. policy of tiet.entit?.n "rather. than I small amounts sale of tine timber limits which, he ; J. C Fiiiiiri Wi d . said. in 25 years would repay the l was prepared i'o 'l/d "Jie said he investment by two dollars to one. . ormer L H. H. Dewart, K.C., former Lib- ". fel"'tQg,etnrtviyytjhgt Gillie it if it oral Leader. opened with the remark " r and better solution to av many new that nobody in the House. with smug timber but none of the o tires in satisfaction, had ever sought to take . m cou d ap- to himself the credit that was due 'l'iorveedt/g,1,.1oao,i't :vay in which things somebody else as had the Attorney- . . land ojcer i nhwhich the deputy General. The Liberal party in past I their h',",'J,'rd.n 'gi,c)'.yth, J"" in years had bent every effort to get t F election in Ontario Sgocefedeed last the trug cgnditiolns bekfoge the peo- Tolmie they had h & r. p e, an w ere, e as e , had any- V l fro 'th eard nothing one ever heard of the Attorney- them preienfresinttt Premier or , General advocating on any public orne - - concerning timber matter: tfentg,,1, agagform a policy of forest preserva one end of the Province to the other . the people had been told that in- Attacks Commission Idea. 's. vestigation was necessary_ The man He attacked the Government's r' who had done that was the then policy of relegating investigation to 'f Leader of the Liberal party, a Royal Commission, saying: 'Two ' _ - Mr. Tolmie then entered upon a Judges have been put in such a posi- ,, vigorous criticism of the speech of tion that they have almost been de- the Attorney-General. It had been graded from their high estate by be- an excellent speech, he tmid, but the ing subjected to criticism to which introduction to it had little to do they should not be subjected." with the bill. He had shown up Government by commission, he the weakness. fraud and inrUneerity said, was one of the outstanding that had run all through the trans- errors of the present "irresponsible" . actions. Mr. Tolmie then had ex- Government, which he described as . pected the Attorney-General to say} the biggest aggregation ot "bump. ' r' that they must rid the country of lers" since Confederation. Prooeed- c. his .'YTt of thing. Then he brought ing, ho declared that all the facts . forward his settlement with the'com- in rcgardr'tod the 1ee'i,l"1iifie1/lt' Eon". '. an . roversy '13. not can su 'm tte to p Uin of the reasons advanced for the II-ousc.nar1"l It spetylfitrd a Hotter :3 the settlement, said Mr Tolmle, was . of Mr. Canaghan-s of Jami?" if, 1 that the Government did not want 1920, upon which the whole mvestd- i; tn put the company out of husinma 3&9"? "as Pasad' . . _ , ? .The Government took trvservthinrz. _ Ethel this. settlement should be i . that he had from tho operator based ytry,ti,y.1ntiylf,,o/rtt should "in ~' named Russell in the settlement with be entered into at am he added, m l . declaring that the Attorney-General him. but when it came to outsiders h, d " . an h , t, _ and a foreign company, the Govern- _ a 'gum'pe at ts csonclusfttyn and ' ment said "it had no desire to push '11:? t',2tette%i1o"ny'sg.1.2tnoaUj1" 31041" ' it to the wall." . . " , . ' pan. , . ' I functioning as Minister of Lands and -' _ "Don't Be Too Chnritahk." l Forests of the Province while the a'p-l . _ "Don't let your charity run away pointed Minister sat in the House. l ,1 . xiéhAtiég;i.'; 35}: TOP"; ",'vua',7il,tf, Defends Slash-burning Plan. 9. n y- nera. . e. was o , cw, I he said, that the Shevlin-Clarke Charles McCrea of Sudbury sup- " B, _ Company's assets at Fort Frances ported the charge that the timber ' could not be replaced for loss than inquiry was political in its incep- . i a million dollars. and the assets of tion, and, in the connection of R. T. . their timber limits were almost lim-l Harding with it, anything but ltless. "It that is true, it seems to, creditable to the Attorney-General 'C: me these people deserve no charityi and the Government. He defended lit', . and they deserve no sympathy from the brush-burning experiment, which if; us." was the basis of the agreement be- " He wanted to know if the Attor- . tween the former Minister of Lands, "f, ' ttey-General thought his case so Mr. Ferguson, and the Shevlin- if. weak that it would topple over in a Clarke Company, declaring that ex- :e',v,t higher court. The Government perience had shown it to be an im- it? should have stood by the judgment: iportant contribution to the con- . '))j" have let the company appealed if it .servation of Ontario's 'forest re- 15"" wanted to; and let us take the can; sources, so important, in fact, that .33., sequences, whatever they might be. the brush-burning clause was re- For $250,000 it was giving up the mined in the settlement with the claims on all this fraud and injury company. the Attorney-General claimed had Mr. Mchrea differed sharply from been going on for years and years the award made bv Justice Logic and years. " the Government was declaring that it had been based on T entitled to anything it was not Ret- comparisons, not with timber sales ting what it ought to get. Mr. Tol- in the Rainy River district b t m mie announced that he was going to . . . ., 'k' u w a , vote against the bill. F I . 1 . ' - ' i , . . " ' - _-_--------.--.--.-----------, ___ -__________-_.-,-,.u t

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