The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 12 May 1922, p. 5

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a ! .' un . *-- He said that, whils he did not | wish to disclaim ~responsibility, he \ \must hold Mr. Hammond responsible \for the duty of looking after the » » 'speclal operators. He said that after he came to the department he ' | got his first insight into the sordid o | methods detectives had to use to get A (their quarry. It was new and re-- zn enz mz es pellant to him. He said that ons FigF c 'or two reports on the matter did Former Provincial Police: coms in to him, but he did not read r ' them before he left in June for his Chief Telis of Com-- | leave of absen:\:deéé ic f f | Regarding 1 utcheon's reports plalntS Made | to Hi'tmmond, witness said he re--| Summemibin n grimerrnraaiigreas | ferred them to a legal officer, Mr.}| | Middleton, and the latter reported| MORE STARTLING CLA'MS! verbally that he did not think the| reports were of any use to convict! o e e n ie | the people suspected, owing to the Major--General H. M. Elliott,' character and antecedents of a good' to *¢ jass UTAnlla | many of the witnesses who had to trmer Commissioner of Police f«@ be called. On September 29 he sent Ontario, was on the stand 3cbterdayl a memo to James Hales, Cha.lrman: morning before the Public Accounts| of the Lic;:nse l;Soaird, saying'th'al' Committee, and said that shortly égeb:idifawgs eorgj;;gt)i'or;x;b{)ee'rs&r;s ei;ié after he assumed his duties, a little that every time a case was reported over a year ago. Inspector Hammond | to him of a man being croo!c'ed. the had come to him and made state-- g:fir.', was ordered to be thrown ments that some of the men recently | y c % transferred under him, having to do' Advises Using Care. with the enforcement of the Ontari | Mr. Raney then read the various y MR y »eriy memos he had sent from time to Temperance -- Act, were disloyal.| time to Gen. Elliott, emphasizing Mr. Hammond had mentioned the that care should be taken in ascer-- P E.46 ). 3 4 P taining the character of men em-- names in this connection, said Gen-- ployed. eral Elliott, of Chief Provincial In-- Mr. Raney then read a memo of spector Ayearst, Mr. Courian and his, dated November 2 last, suggest-- one or two others. The outstand-- wfihths;o??e\;}:dbm(tfi)n'f'(fredn%l:sg %":;g ing man Mr. Hammond had told held with inspectors on this, and him about was Courian. 'g'eY}- Eé"?tt sf'}ildtitthwas del(élldedi; ?n TJs * eir advice, tha is could not be General Elliott said that he had ,done entirely. Mr. Raney read from discussed this matter with the At-- another memo, sent on February torney--General in a general way and 15, in which the Attorney--General the Attorney--General had said that § T:tfg;z'et%a't 2?1"25535'0'1-;? (}?Sn}r'_eg:r; it must be probed to the bottom. %. or off duty, should be dismissed. * '"'There was no question as to the Asked to Resign. policy of the department on this At the end of June last year Gen-- matter of employment?" the Attor-- eral Elliott had left on two months' gsg;qe:aeigalwi?fig:sd' None what-- leave of absence, leaving Captain Mr. Raney then read from a re-- Collinson in charge of his oflice. port in an evening paper of Mr. When he came back serious charges Lennox's charge in 'the House that had been bandied about between "thugs and criminals" were kept, Hammond and Collinson in (;enfaral "and were being kept today'"' in the Elliott's presence, and an investiga-- enforcement of the O.T.A. "Do you tion followed, which resulted in Col-- know anything to support that linson being asked to resign. statement?" asked Mr. Raney. "Not Just before the committee rose to my knowledge," said witness. Hon. W. E. Raney asked General . Elliott if he now had confidence in No One Forced In. Mr. Ayearst. General Elliott re-- "Did T impose anybody on you you plied that he had confidence in Mr. did not want to employ, or retain Ayearst's probity and honor. '"The anybody in your department you reports were groundless?" asked the wanted to dismiss?" "No." Attorney--General. '"*You, sir,'"' said * Told to Watch Brother. GeIrTor'% {:'1({:_%:'2;1 a chauffeur. form-- Samuel McCutcheon, a brother of erly in the employ of the depart-- the other McCutcheon who has been e on the stand for several days, ment, told of going up to Kitchener § caused some amusement when he with McCutcheon, the ex--operator fold the committe; that Courian who gave evidence on Wednesday, had sai(i to him: "IT'll give you some and having informations laid. Com-- good advice You look for AMc-- ing back to Kitchener a few days Cutcheon for me." ""80," said wit--| later, he was told that "they had ness, "I used to go out and look for word from Toronto to send _ me + him." | away." He said he was given $600 Witness said that Courian had and a ticket to go to Regina, so as threatened to work a '"frame" on not to give evidence, He had been him, and that he would get Detective rold by the man who gave him the Ward to help him. Witness said he money, a man named Struck, to saw Ward, and Ward said: "I might come back in five or six monthsg and frame for someone, but not for he would be taken on the force Courian." acain. He told of a place on Waverley t > road where he and his brother Was Sent to Jail, visited. The brother had said to the When he came ba.ck. said Wltne", 3 woman at the door, "Do you know Hammond asked him to work for c ts Provincial Officer Courian?""* and McCutcheon. Later he was given she said, "Yes, I do; come in." . six months on a theft charge and "When he came out I smelled liquor when he came out of jail worked for on his breath, and he told me he the department for a week in order *__{ could buy anything there from good to complete the cases against a 'liquor to apple cider." Later the couple of places that witness had | place was raided, and Courian was knowledge of before he was sent ! "peeved" about it, said witness., down. omm ssmA ooo Mr. Raney asked General Elliott ' about the charges made in the Legis-- Jlaturse by T. H. Lennox, member for | North York, and witness replied that | so far as he was concerned they 'were not strictly in accordance with the facts, About a fortnight or so | F after witness took over his duties : Ingpector Hammond had come to | S him and made a statement that per-- | f turbed him exceedingly. _ It was to' < the effect that some of the men i under witness, h@ving to do with the" enforcement of the Ontario Temper-- * ance Act, were disloyal, After the Attorney--General had told him to probe the charges to the bottom he had several confer-- Th ences with Hammond. | + s T We cce es 12 i e e s es c i t s c o t s ie h s »

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