The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 2 Jun 1922, p. 2

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to43tom>(§:d at lthat point, the At-- ' rney--General turned to a . wider | § > ilgd. ttihat of tthe attltudfi of the Con;_ | D6 (;I:s ;g:nssfl;:r R;::;::r I moy e\ servative party generally, and of | * * M !Hon. G. H. Ferguson ihy particular. | 4 second reading of the bill. . | toward the Ontario Temperance With that he resumed his seat, | Act. _ H. Hill, Conservative member | having given the House no detailed | _ for East Ottawa, then invoked the | :;)lclxl)lanation of the 'purpose: of the| 'chax.rs ruling as. to whether this | Mr. FPerguson 'shid he would dis-- ?,';gjea"},'-ads aenslf{thfnglgotgotm&th ;}w' cuss the matters referred to by the 4 | cussion rr'msI: %ee(l)nsat.lhe o neime ae| | Attorney--General when the proper | prilloipile of.] | t d J. C. Tolmie, Liberal | the bill before the House. | | time came, and J. C. » r f of Windsor, expressed anxiety as to | Attorney--General Persists. | whether opportur&ity wa:s t(:hbe alg- ' ; i is . \ forded later for discussing the sub-- s Cl n Haner.. pursued. his jects with which Mr. Raney had at-- o l oo and'W.'L. N. _Smclan-, Lib-- tempted to deal. When the Attor-- eral, Luithrie South, interjlected a ney--General said he feared the ses-- feomment, that. the . Attorney--Gen-- sion would be curtailed and no op-- eral was far afield from the subject portunity given, Mr. Tolmie thought of the Liquor Transportation Bill. the rules of the House might be When Mr. Raney somewhat warmly stretched at the present time. queried as to whether he should Mr Lennon--I am quite certain have included Mr. Sinclair among there. will be opportunity of discus-- the critics of the O.T.A.. the mem-- sing this. I propose to take it up in ber for South Ontario retorted. "I the House at the proper time. The oo t nate where oc P.ut me." with Attorney--General needn't worry. f em\?h(..;;g"on Itheh yiu. k | -- Mr. Curry--This matter is of suf-- P af Hi~--s ne AtfOrney:General | ficient importance that we ought to going to abide by the Speaker's | take the time of the House to diz-xcuss;l ruling or not? | \it, and I propose later to bring the| Mr. Raney--I am seeking to \matter up. f | amend and improve the provisions \__Then Mr. Halcrow, just before the of the temperance legislation in this | bill was s'iVen_ second reading, ex-- Province. I am seeking to show that | pressed the opinion that there were certain elements in the Province: are g a great many points of the O. T. A. seeking to destroy it. I think I am that were unjust, and that soon the quite capable of judging whether * kauthorities would b.e regulating the my address has reference to the bill clothing and the edibles of the indi-- before the House. vidual. ) ' Mr. Ferguson interjected to s#ay Mr. Raney, in opening his speech that Mr. Raney's discussion had gone on the second reading of the Bill, far afield, and Mr. Speaker again lsaxd he thought they had arrived at \stated the rule that discussion on |the culmination of the first stage of second -- reading must be on the the campaign inaugurated _ some principle of the bill. | months ago against the Ontario | Temperance Act. The first gun of Strengthen Anti--liquor Law, i that campaign had been fired by t \an organization known as the Liber-- Mr. Raney--It has been contend-- ty Lesgue, in a fulmination put out ed that the Ontario Temperance | to the public in the early part of Act has proven a dismal failure. I| February of this year, just on thei want to try to make the 1'"" eve of the assembling of the Legisla-- . stronger. ; | ture. This organization, no doubt, Mr. Ferguson--I quite agree that | was composed of respectable citi-- the _methods of administration | zens, said Mr. Raney, and it had the should be improved. | right to advocate its point of view, Mr. Raney--I am going to show | _ but in the present instances there that certain members in this House, : was associated with them in the in this Province are opposed to the campaign janissaries, -- mercenaries, law. I am going to show what pub-- bootleggers, moonshiners, blind--pig-- lic opinion is, and what the attitude gers and rum--runners. of the followers of the Conservative ;Dafi.v is. i i "th dAment Answers Lennox Charges. | | A awecoine amendment 16 . the| After reading the circular, Mr.] iwere aAweepine amendment to th_e' |\ Raney referred to the charges made Q.T.A., there might be some justi-- t } 3 F j 3 by Mr. Lennox in the House. Mr. fication for bringing in outside mat y * 'ters, and as I consider this only a Lennox, he said, had made one small amendment, and as there will blanket charge and then gave in-- | be an opportunity to discuss all the stances to support his blanket 'other matters, 1 think the ruling that charge. That blanket charge was only the principle of the bill should that the Attorney--General had been be discussed on second reading knowingly employing thugs and should be adhered to. criminals, and that some of them Hon. Mr. Parliament went on to were in the employ of the depart-- say that the rule was laid out before )ment at the time the charges were him in the rule book in plain Eng--| made. Mr. Lennox had concluded lish, and he had no alternative but his address by a series of questions. to quote it to the House when a rul-- + Because of the attitude of some ing was sought. members yesterday at t(t;ebPubllc Ag; ¥ s Committee, an ecause Attorney-Gengral is Aners. ;zugf;ito(;?al that morning in a To-- In very apparent anger, Hon. Mr. ronto paper, he referred at this time| Raney commenced: "Mr. Speaker, to these charges. ! this is the first time ------" and he cut Taking up the questions of Mr. short the remark and sat down. Ris-- Lennox one by one, Mr. Rancy said : | ing again, he said there would be "The member for North York sup-- no opportunity of discussing the jported his general charge, made in | matter, as the House was at the close \the House, that I had _ knowingly of the session. | | employed thugs and criminals in the ' 1e Ahe Atforher--Grensral intimate enforcement of the Ontario Temper-- able the Attorney--General intimate ! ance Act, with particulars and at the | |to me that I am trying to cut him 4 clo8e Of 'his speech, he put these o ausaker' s chart "The role is in | articulars in the form of questions | the Speaker's chair. "The rule is in | 'pddressed to me '_| plain English that it is only the prin--| | a * . _ | ciple of the bill that can be discused; Lennox Still Insists. on second reading. May 1 sugwest to l "The member for North York still the honorable the Attorney--General | | insisting, notwithstanding the pro-- | that hfi appeal to me House againti | ceedings in the Public Accmints my_ruling?" . ittee, that his charge against s o eaa e o 1e iihwest To-- | [ me i8 true, it is Wworth while, 1 think, <al. W. Curry, K.. Southwest 19 | that I should deal with these detail-- on n Brea warere BP aug o"ion | ed instances specifically, so that the the troubled waters by suggest HKI "al Ahtidobte may go with the poison. At that. the Attorney--General dea The conclusion ofahis speech he suin-- t s as. ho. AecISTE: m"easurel.l marized the specific instances in the "I must say," he declared, "that form of a series> of questions, and feel that the address of the Honor-- ; with these I propose now to deal, able the Attorney--General has been answered them seriatim. somewhat wide of the rules that are "as the questions were directed followed and adhered to by the to me I address my answers to Mr. House, but I do think there would -- Lennox be every opportunity in taking the| -- £ @ C * y bill up clause by clause." f 4

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