The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 27 Jan 1923, p. 1

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Premier Drury explained furthe» that the scheme entcred into was largely financed by Britain and that Ontario's share of expenditure would be negligible. There was no thought of placing these immigrants in -- a more favorable position than their own unemployed. The only thing they were planning to do was to give them training in Canadian farm-- ing methods. At no time during the past year had the demand for farm help been satisfied. BRITAIN FINANCES JDEA DRURY GOVERNMENT IMMIGRATION PLAN Four thousand five hundred per-- sons are registered with the Un-- employment Bureau in Toronto, as compared with 14,000 this time last year, Hon. W. R. Fiollo, Minister of Labor and Health. told the Legis-- lature yesterday during a discussion of immigration policies of the Gov-- ernment and their relation to those out of work. Of these 4,500, the Minister related, a total of 1,500 were handicap cases, suffering from war or industrial disabilities. Hon. G. Howard Ferguson. Con-- Servative Leader, said he would like to know what the Government had done on the unemployment prob-- lem other than to give out doles. Meanwhile the Minister of Labor. after a verbal battle with Mr. Mac-- Bride. said that the unemployment situation today was greatly improv-- ed over what it had been a year Cite Unemployment, Which, _ Minister Argues, Is Show-- ing Improvement K. M. Warren, U.F.O., North Fien-- frew, said that only a few days be-- fore he had been told by the (GGov-- ernment unemployment representa-- tive in his part of the country that there was difficuity in getting helip for lumber camps. This roused vig-- orous criticism from (G. G. Halerow, Independent Labor, East Hamilton,. who maintained it was up to the Government to face the situation and find some solution for the un-- employment question. When Joseph E. Thompson, Con-- servative, Northeast Toronto, -- put in a word for 'clerks, bookkeepers and other engaged in clerical work who were unemployed,. the Minister said that always his sympathy had been with that class of man. 1t was impossible for any Governiment to supply jobs for all in that ciass, and the Minister said that his argu-- ment was that if he could not be given a job, then he should be given a dole. "You can't abolish doles until you abolish unemployment. No Government is able to give employ-- ment to all that kind of men until the time comes when the Govern-- ment will control all the jobs." Mr. MacBride then launched into a bitter criticism of the Government for spending money on this kind of immigration, when,. he said, it had turned down last session a propoial to spend money in order to place Ontario unemployed on farms. He quoted from oficial figures supplied by the Minister of Labor to show that there were 71,000 unemployed in Ontario, but explained later, in answer to questions, that ho was q'uo_tnlg from the 1921 report. Must Give Doles, He Says. The discussion arose before the orders of the day were called, when M . . MacBride, Independent Labor, South Brant, asked if report-- ed plans of the Government contain-- ed in the newsnapers were correct, relating to the bringing out to On-- tario from Britain of certain classes of farm laborers and also boys. Premier Drury said the details of the scheme should be left to the Minister of Agriculture to explain, but he was at that time not in his seat. However, the outline in the Press, the Premier said, was, he thought. approximately correct as to the plan proposed. ROUSES LABOR MEA SATURDZ/ AY, JANUARY 27, 1924 WANTS REPORT 500 QN CHIPPAWA PROBE, DECLARES FERGUSON Premier Drury "Hopes" for Gregory Commission Re-- port This Session AVOIDING UNDUE HASTE Msm oc «> W 7 agd. Answering questions from Mr. Ferguson, the Minister said that this week a lumber company asked for 500 men for the lumber camps, and out of 500 interviewed on Wed-- nesday of this week only 20 offered to go. The farmers, he said, were not able to get help. Regarding handicap cases in Toronto, Mr. Rollo said they had scouts trying to in -- duce manufacturers to take on such men for work they could do. Premier Drury "hopes" that the Hydro report of the Gregory Com-- mission will be available for the Legislature this session, but in the House yesterday he said he consid -- ered its work of extreme importance and that Chairman Gregory and his cou\ea,gues were not to be unduly hurried in making their presenta-- tion. Continuing, _ the _ Conservative Leader twitted the Government upon ib ooo n l ap & -- Gregory Commission _ was precipi-- tated by Hon. G. H. Ferguson, Con-- servative Leader, who read to the House The (Globe's news item of yes-- lerday morning as --to the possibility of there being no report brought down -- this session. In-- vigorous terms the Conservative Leader went out after the CGovernment for «ome pronouncement upon the sub-- ject, pointing out that, although the Premier had promised a report in three weeks, the Gregory Commis-- sion had "meandered on its tortuous way for 10 or 11 months," and had gono everywhere except to Niagara, where it was supposed to go. Hon, Mr. Ferguson said that ap-- parently some of the Press felt just as the public of the Province did about the Gregory Commission-- '"'that tha efforts of this commission have been a direct attack on the principle of public ownership; that it has done its utmost to undermine the confidenca of the public, and of the investing public, in the principle of public ownership to which this Province is wed, and that the Gov-- ernment of the day is a party to all that, because it appointed the com-- mission with no other purpose than that; because they know from day to day what its activigies are. It read in the Press the expressions that come from the Chairman and other members of the commission, which leave no doubt in anybody's mind as to what the trend of the in-- flullr,v Is and what the purpose of it 18,." Mr. Ferguson went on to protest that, although deliberations had wone on for 10 or 11 months, during which the conmnission's staff had grown to almo#st the size of that of the Hydro Commission itself, with engineers and lawyers galore, and auditors and accountants to the number of 20 or 25, doing exactly the same work that Clarkson & Co., Government auditors, had already been paid for doing, still "wo have not heard a single solitary word abgut,"the. Chippawa development." Caiie d co s dn omne in en oo its extended employment of Chair-- man Gregory upon commissions. If it were necessary, ho suggested, to give Mr.'Gregory permanent com-- mission employment with the Gov-- ernment, well and good, but it was lime he was found another com-- mission and reported on Hydro. In reply, Premier Drury ddisputed Mr. Ferguson's statement as to a promise having been made that the veport would 'be ready in § three Wooks.> H H _ Thanmaut -- Ir ue Wi _ [ on ~eess. H,. H. Dewart, KC., inter-- rupted to ask why, if the Govern-- Protests Unduo Delay. Discussion upon the subject of the

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