The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 9 Apr 1923, p. 1

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I C ' 4x | h OBSERV | e 2 AAemaal t _ "D un poe ' ' f s | Wperraas | IN QUEENS PARK .& i I * K 1;";&,';". W»?fi.'\ i»oz f ® iss N C naidy e roron ww | w» » N ns 1409 If a redistribution bill is actu-- \ _ The redistribution issue will not) any event, Mr. Halcrow's list of| ally placed before the Legislature, \remain quiet until Premier Drury| figures YWs quite illuminating,| and at present everything points makes hi though possibly familiar | to the}] that way, it is taken for granted I s announcement of policy members of the Cabinet, who show * & some ti ang| that the Province will be given a me next week. It bobs uP | signs of having Eiven these an in the Legislature every now and |the census statistics some recent| trial of proportional representa-- thes, and fow Opposition menibers study. tion. Plenty of feelers bhave been | thrown out from Drury Government overlook any opportunity of trying| A Dangerous Passage. circles that the time has come for to get advance information. Such After an extraordlnary career of|some application of P.R., if for no eagerness to know what is going to| delays, Hon. Mr. Raney's blue sky|| other reason than for educational be done in setting the election stage bill received second reading yester--|| purposes. f j can be tak day afternoon. On previous occa-- The Premier is believed to be a e taken as a reflex of what the| sions the same measure has had t0|| thorough convert to this system of people are thinking and asking. be dropped for want of a quorum,}| voting, perhaps not favorable to its Before the orders of the day were| but a sufficient number of m?im- being put into operation all over ' called yesterday, George G. Hal--| P%* stuck to their posts yesterday|'the Province immediately, but grow . (I ' * to see it safely through the most|| favorable to trying it out to the ex-- (Independent Labor, EaSt| gqangerous passage. A Start WA8|/ tent of making its intricacies more Hamilton) picked up a copy of The| made on the blue sky matter shortly|| or less familiar to the great body Globe and proceeded to interrogate atfier 4 o'clo:l:k. andt} it V::Bs 52&"8: of the electorate. It is reported on when second reading a +1| good authority that two--thirds of m:{:r'ntlz:mw:o?::: nalnrgedisttl:.l: This was the first Friday afte';h his followers in the Legislature bution bill would be introduced.| 2°°1 !" which the House has last@d|}share his views, though it must be Anyone could tell from Mr. Hal-- until eix. Even Premier Drury |admitted that rather vigorous oppo-- crow's expression and the manner remained, though he generally||sition comes from the remaining in which he asked the questions| "°°"" the whistle of the 'f-fah:l for ' one--third. However, that is ons that he knew full weil he would get| C'OT®" Hill before five on Friday#:|| reason, and a rather strong reason, |no definite reply. He was not dis-- Half a dozen times it looked a: Itor believing that some people must | Appointed. . Ho saw the Premier|though Mr. Raney would meet »TI//get ready to vote by choices under idbplay his most complacent smile, 211;;"';'::9":3:;"éonulgo:":my B1 |P. R. and he heard him say t;othlgg members, and second reading was ;The Party Platforms. ;:?:t:;}exl"'ea)r:;::é%dogefg?Btzxgsé: ef accorded with the bare quorum,}} Another reason, referred to fre-- * . 20. [quently in this column, is that the Mr. Halcrow's Complaint. \ _The members kept coming and principle of P.R. is a plank in the However, Mr. Halcrow got rid of going, adding to the continual un-- !platforms of three parties--the Lib-- his.complaint. He argued that be| certainty. _Mr. Drury set himself|/erals, the U.F.O. and the Laborites. had a redistribution motion on the the task of acting as party Whip, %True, the Province has witnessed order paper for two and a half owing to the absence of the trusted || on more than one occasion of late : months, which he thought was quite| Andrew Hicks. Half a _ dozen | a remarkable drift from party plat-- a "reasonable time," and, besidos, Opposition members were obliging||forms by men from all of these! . he had submitted an amendment to| enough to remain in their seats,|| three groups, but there are still| the Speech from the Throne on the| though the dobate was confined t0| members who regard a platform as . same subject, which had been ruled | three or four of them. Had not|ja given pledge, and not a mere! out of order. He claimed, like| Mr. Raney given assurances that!| chart, to be departed from under| some other members, that redistri--) the: mining industry would b"; political exigencies. I bution was "one of the most press-- amply protected in the application|| There is a possibility that when | ing questions," while he could not| of the measure, it is likely he would || the redistribution problem is being| see any justice, "in any shape or| not have been successful yesterday.;'dealt with behind closed doors the| form," in the present allotment ot!From what could be taken from theI outstanding reason for & limited. ridings. | Attorney--General's ~remarks, theliapplication of P.R. will be found to Mr. Halcrow had prepared a list| bill is in for some very violent alter-- \\ lie in the supposition that it will| showing the voting irregularities of: ations when it comes before tbfi.'be one way out of a serious diffi--' Ontario ridings based on the last| Committee of the House. The fs"3t"culty. The hint from Government| election. There were two ridings| that Mr. Raney was disposed t0||circles that P.R. was to be tried in which the total vote had been| accept some of the views of North--|| out on the dog--that is, Toronto--| lees than 3,000; three between five ern Ontario men kept them in their!|called forth an immediate protest and six thousand; two between slx' Dl&('es Now that the example has"frorn the Conservatives. ']'he}"I and seven thousand; five between'been set, possibly the Premier will ' ) threatened, and still threaten, to| seven and eight thousand; seven| make more use of Friday after',istage the greatest filibuster the| between eight and nine thousand; l noons hereafter., || Legislature ever saw if an attempt | elevdon fbetween nti'n:a and tten tho;x(i' Some of the Work Ahoad. 'ii& Tad% to folnow fimy com.gz likele sand; fourteen between ten A in ay' at. upposing that, in addition | ' eleven thousand; nine under twelve | A little 81;31}3131u%§1 t?:;'%rg:g;!! to Toronto, the Premier proposed| thousand; eight under thirteen ord:ar ?:gg{s'tr?bttlon indicates that};| to try out P.R. in some rural rid--| thousand ; five under fourteen thou-- {)}?c 2 il1 be many busy days ahead | ings, any Conservative protest| sand; three under seventeen thou--| be?:;?-eWI rorogation and the cam--|| Would immediately lose much of its| sand; four under nineteen thou--| SIFH Il)cnic season. There are 25 | advertising or campaign value. In| sand, and so on up to one riding.| PME MSTC$TaoQing: two Govern.| fact, the members of that party: Northwest Toronto, where the vote} mlent fNOtices Of motion: 17 Govern.|| Would almost be bound to accept| was slightly less than 45,000. | ment orders, mostly second read-- !'such a compromise, though doubt-- Perhaps Not Correct Basis. lings; 17 public bills and orders, [ {less they would shout lustily for a Of course, the numbers of votes| mostly second readings; about 30| considerable period, particularly if \ ' greater discrepancies. questions | to be -- answered; 31 | they thought organized obstruction cast show _E $ w l ¢ t ¢ rivate|| would provide campaign literature. than populations, owing to local| notices of motion from priva e | On Abe 'other hand, it i i tex \ conditions at election time. Per--| members, and six private bills.| t nth' e o der pan s 3t 1; pomtel | sonal popularity of the candidates,| That list of business alone scems | out that under P.R. or the single 'like keenness of : the fight, the| good for weeks and weeks of talk,| transferable vote the unparalleled efficiency of organization, and even | to say nothing of the matters 013 disparities in rural ridings could be ; the weather, all affect the number| current moment which -- several | mgde to disappear and county boun-- of votes recorded. Some authori-- members are so fond of debating. | daries not be particularly disturbed. ties claim that redistribution argu--| Jf one were disposed to guess, it is | Those who have been giving the ments should never be based on the| that there may be some sort of| Problem some study-- claim that a number of votes cast, while others| resolution to vote a members' bonus plan advocated by Liberals in \say that people who neglectito volte 1r;laddmon tfo t{ui ggdinary sessional g';'i%fl" I:Sisa;)l[:l(;c::il; tthoa t!':lt;';tl p?d"n' tation. In'! allowance o » s t * s pian | w___----------------s--------------------' would meet with fewer local ob--| i m n n ~ ' jections than if townships or vil-- lages or towns were rudely trans-- ferred from onoe riding to another.| Dufferin and the Greys. | Let us take Dufferin county, for | example, and work out a concrete| case along the lines now being talked of in some quarters. Duf--| ferin, represented by one member, k 7 has a population of 15,415, which is away down the scale when com-- f ,pa-red with other rural ridings of s e \27,000 or 28,000. With a represen-- * _ tation unit of around 16,000 Duf-- f _ ferin could not hope to retain one

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