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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 10 Apr 1923, p. 2

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e M . ) C . e l c 2 s * ooo o mentone e se ty cmmenncs ~ompren on« Aee@e s ~... ce c on e e said, the Minister of Agriculture's action in participating in the con-- | C troversy in England was decidedly | s not the most ethical thing to do. From that point Mr. -- Merguson *# «m delved into what he deemed the odd B K eynchronization of cireumstance of the enlistment of Lord Beaverbrook's se support for the removal of the em-- %a'._rxrc;' a(de the abandonment by the TO SECU A partial canvass of members of, u iovernment of an intended | move to establish a cement indus--| the Legislature, particularly Gov--| :;"y in the Province to keep in check ; w mmmmmmmemememmeecmmm mm« ernment members, indicates quite | e cement trust, of which Lord | < + at the old political ba &1 Beaverbrook was at that time pre--| Hon Manr"ng DOhel'ty'S Bill clearly". {hat ® o f sumed to be the head. ( * # | Ccry, Representatlon by popula-- m:'::'amtlo:nl:ln:r_\l-] 11?1(1;::10? m:(}!]ihll\' ilr(n GEtS Second Readlng tion,"' is nothing but a memory so * k "Te : commented, "Sherloc > % I Froimes"" but Afr. Ferguson. lm_! in House far as the impending Ontario situ-- gguimml' wc;]n'. on to imply that quite| onnnipnoamnmmantrcnionettectingce ation is concerned, Rep. by Pop. viously the Drury Government| had not since displayed the same | PROV'NCE MAKES LOANS will find no place in the forthcom-l regard for the people of the Prov--| ing Provincial redistribution--that | ince in connection with their cemeat| mesestequamaituaenaiee !is, provided the U.F.O. have their ;"(:luqir;'(;nonts. He knew very well,.| Second reading was given yester--| way, and presumably they will. h"'a . that rc:pr'osont:\ti'-»ns' h@ad| _ gay in the Legislature to the bill in-- Agrarian members can see no jus-- ' n made by Beaverbrook, through | 4 --tv | tice in giving Toronto equalit in' | local agencies, to the Government. |_ troduced by Hos. Mn in : gt ti C ith H lyfl | The Premier arose to suggest A|\ Minister of Agriculture, to encour-- ;'epres%';i':h::cwn thanydlrura a-- Turther deduction--that the Govern.| age the consolidation of Cheate ic E. i 'affein e glag oys a ment evolved the cement plant idea -- tories,. The measure aims to give righteousness in a proposal which to use as a lever on Beaverbrook Such encouragement by le'ndmig would give Hamilllon or London or ' to enlist his support in the removal money at 5 per cent. interest, dm:,l} Ottawa equality in representation of the' cattle embargo. The Con. WAaS around this "huf.e.,('f t}:e h)zlid with ridings where agriculture pre-- servative Leader smilingly pursued _ {ma! whatever, "l)l'Uf"'('nFPi_ FUSOn dominates. So united are the his course, however, arguing that 8"05°: ,".O,"- (']' ,Hl')':drdhad' &';{)mé U.F.O. members on this particular there was "good ground for suspicion :u')'tl;g(t:\itbl(\):;t p{f?tli(neg'p\ll)lic n{(me\' point that, fight for equality as :2aéeg"t~'(') is friens. Sif max Al L. Into competition with private enter 1clty members may, the latter are ho 'was -- D: o oo e e rorerk fls prise, although he favored the putr-- almost certain to be smothered.| venal "'ih ;)'."\m']" 'm} C lt f'f "his pose of the biii, which is to raise and | Rural Ontario members now have| I': riqu Il'ts down by the sea. make uniform the quality of cheese |eontrol, and there is no doubt they' rom there Mr. Ferguson pro-- produced. That something is ne*d-- i intend to hold it l ceeded to a Budget discussion, which ed was emphasized by Mr, Doherty, 6 f brought down Mr. Speaker's inter-- who declared at one stage of the de-- If my riding was as close to the | ruption. He recalled that one thing bate that "we have come to the point Legislature as Toronto is we Wm"d' th.o Farmers' Government could be where we have to do something Or not require any representation," one | said to have done for the youth on else close the factories up.' The U.F.O. stalwart claimed yesterday, | the farm was to increase tax:ation Government had the power to close | and that is the attitude almost hPldl by 313.?('0.f\0() and treble the debt them up, said the Minister. f "general]y outside of members rep--| of the Province, even excluding from R. R. Hall, Liberal, Parry sound. | resgenting the multitudes in the| consideration T. & N.O. and Hydro thought that others beside farmers | tb t | expenditures. should hbhave the right to borrow lur knyCentnes: money from the Government at & lTorOnto Unit 60,0002 Ferguson Secon . r rate of interest, 8 & $ + M ever uns nunnus io im on this cage some cermele were || _ _ Do Show the effect or Ahie UPAML sofion}lfirkl)rur? likened Mr. Fergu-- cAnted e '(r'igh"t hd others --nad view reference must be made againi o Dickens' famous creation, Ser-- y -- o c uiA t a T :z 9 census s w geant Buzfuz, and concluded that| 4 gdenied thei. e D in n uvs" l Are ts hasisof the contine t "hkhl N U6, _ ANQ at| t from Dr. H. A. Stevenson, are the basis of the coming redistri-- | the Conservative Leader had not Tekor k sAt 001 a s < * | even succeeded in convincing himself la@abor, London, who interpreted one bution. Ontario's population was| WIth nis argument . The cc'ment{ part of Mr. [{ull"s speech as reflect-- given at 2,933,66 2. At present thef plant proposal, Mr. Drury said, might) 1NE °" the quality of produce the Legislature consists of 111 mem--| & constitute for Mr. }"('rgUSUn a "('h()DS! ?f}r'n(?l';q H()ld t,(') 11'.('»('}\965(' 1i{l't(irl'"s. bers' and if repreSentation "'ere' and tomato sauce" conclusive argu-- Yh'}"',',"""f.'l" 113')']"g"']'""' 'he"" "O"'% based on strict equality each mem-- _ ment, but its effect upon the people| hat," said Lte dea l 4( 0) memnet, 21C> ber would be responsible for 26,-- would be to make them laugh | _ referred to Mr. Hall's remarks as a | a K < > i8 . c W arkg!* + ~ -- ha a& s 428 -- pergons. In other words,| Then Mr. Drury went back into| '(/halge. ; L{ft th«,{l:]ll" be enforced under representation by popula'i(m' Mr. Ferguson's political history, tim.| then.' said Mr. Hall,. woul gival ber, K;xmxskassinr;:. and so ?n;)----ifn':»::-. Mr. Doherty, in explaining his 26,429 would be the unit. To in-- ing on through a point of order b)l l)ill, referred to *. recent survey of dicate how great a departure from W E. N. Sinclair, who wanted to see 112 cheese factories, which survey the principle of Rep. by Pop. this his agricultural resolution discussed| WA@S eXplained fully from Bulletin Government may make, the differ--| --and arrived at the conclusion that No. 291 of the department, showing ent units now in the minds of| the people had rejected Mr. Fergu-- ;he Nosen perl 100 pounds between TF.OQ,. leaders can be stated. | son without knowing one--tenth of actories producing over 200 tons a c tip pg y | the truth about him politically. year and factories producing under Accor(:'ilng to Opinlotr;ls h('eld h}f Mr. Ferguson--Yes, and they got 20 tons differing by about $2.50. reSpfm'Tzl ethme,?, (mt * "Oz:ert.;-i a lemon. ; i This survey, said the Minister, cov. mMent side, the Toronto repreSsenta | Mr. Drury--Well, a lemon is a ered one--seventh of all the factories tion should be in a class by ltself,l clean, wholesome fruit. which made one--sixth of the total, 60,000 or more for each memher.g The Premier then went over much production, and if these factories For other urban centres, such as| of the old gr«.)und.nf cattle embargo had been (-onsn'x'nlutcd to bring the Hamilton, London and Ottawa, they | ,:t;.ignl;:::lnt f"',:gri:";"'r"" gi(;'in;.; thc;! :"v:?ir];:feilll)nl))(ll'l(]»:ituhc,t"i :lu 1}01-0 ltor;s, the ~would make 45,000 or 50,000 the| 1 ster of 4 ulture credit for a & & T10 o ast year ¢ rid--| least taking part in the Ru('('ossflll' in eastern Ontario alone would have ;mit ?1: pOD()unl 'lt(;::.flr(f'uor:drggafl)flfl a | move to have it lifted,. and, after ""?}1 'il'.'"'_"x*"""('l.\' $515.000, fgfi:s uniety :nds2fl'0fl'0 or le8§ for fhet ' explanation of how Hon. Thomas Sxplaining the bill, Mr, Doherty : f lew| Crawford's ill--fated shipment had said that loans would be made where Scattered constituencies of New ' brought on the embargo 30 years the farmers of any district were pre-- ,OntaflO- h he'D | ago, said that if he wanted to put pared to erect a modern dairy plant It is believed, too, that the Drury two and two together and make fire to take the place of two smaller Government is going to try to re--| hhe could blame the whole business !ones, and were prepared to deliver d@uce the present House member--| ' on the Tory party in the Legislature. '§'E,'§23 iac;()r}"lzlx(nnual]_\' three million Sship from 111 to about 100. | es x 1 s of mi to the same dairy. l __ _ Farmers Not Taxed, The Government would advan(:l:;wa More Territory for Toronto. | As 1'(:;:ardod the increased debt '1';1'"' to 80 per cent. of the value of The 1921 census figures of thei :tmdmtgnxat;}on, he said that additional 1'a'irplan{. am} the property. The. ridings represented by the ten To--| axation had come from proper | PA TONS forming the company would ronto members are 453,840, an aYO" | channels. JLittle of it had come from _ {take stock, and would pay up 20 f 45,384 h. If the unit of| the farmers, and much from other | per cent. The department would ap--' este d'u earc ; Toronto were; * sources, such as timber, and so on. |P"OVe the site and the plant, and fyt M ropvag onm Orhi ity, as now| He disagreed with Sir Thomas | WOU!ld have a representative on the Pais e d 60 e ie n e io antmlative Th ! White, who said that the debt of the | BOoard of Directors until the loan is constituted for Legislative ridings,| 6 weountry must come out of the #Kop ;D:nd up. From the returns made to would be given at least two fewer; @ six inches of the soil, and opined ;cuch patron there is to be deducted | members. The course likely to beI f{hat lit should come out of the use--| | f"0m his milk cheque a certain per-- | followed if the 60,000 unit holds| , | esi?' lgxurq);nfl(;?vth(?xr?ylo-%u h 3 i::;lgt:gtel'in%nd tgis will be put into a |good will be to take in pal'tsfl']';] «_' CG. K 3 J.F.O., Sout Tie-- & . and every td ¢ 2 | $ ' 'toria) said that this GOVtL*rnmer(;t't | paid over to tlftz'ea)epzr;(;x? mon'th.s | East and West York and leave | had given additional grants m| Icredited against the loan ent Ant 'membershlp ati Lon. n-! i schools in' South Victoria. Where } The bill to Alith s aln, o Government members as a gen-- | R \$7,675 had been given in 1919! am-uovemor-in-cfdfizfil"Ifi- Lleutan> 'eral rule are strongly in opposition # ; tEh?re was $18,862 given in 1922.' ltee debenture issues by the p,.i:ar'};;: \to the idea of breaking the presenl - t'er{ ";1h°°1 except one got from| | Park Commission passed thx(-]uur»fi 'county boundaries, but they S°€ s f * IOr OHt "Ae"qtt':"'i-" as much, | lcommittee. o °UZb / pienty of changes to be made With-- E. & % x x8 '*nson N 4 a s 6 I C + s . ; don) said that som i creitit was u. | P A'_xescfluuon of Hon. Peter Smith, | in Mmany county limits as NO° o i e credit was due rovincial -- Treasurer o 9i h who have ine Labor peopic for helping To 1o. the Cabhict t easurer, -- authorizing Stituted. Some of them l othe > move the cattle embargo. He Said A 000 for the 0 invest up to $2,000,--. gone over the Province thin resolution asking for the removal issued under'"'g\c,hlés?'uf debentures designations of ridings is noth!n'g of the embargo had been passed two! | Municipalities ph-r:lr;:t passed _ by more or less than a Conservafl}e 'I'-Ie;:s ago by the Labor group of the| | Prainage Act, was '1)-1:2-9(1'0- the, Tile : gerrymander, and they aT© out to * se, which resolution had been| -- based on th 'S pasced, and a bill, -- remedy this fault if possib!® sent to Lloyd George and British [ the sot s 1e _resolution, to amend | eday Labor leaders. 8 ' |Sra sns as introduced and read a -- Not Very Enthusiastic Yet. : ~y-- ~----o--cee+ It is not far from the tr"ut'h;o ; . : state that the Cabinet rexre:mbu': is 35 ; o did not bring down the redi dovks S ition bill <in blank last * a ge * i & & ' Uk > }

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