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for St. Catharina, ikterruiiiiirii say that At didn't desire to be classi- Former Attorney-General nanny was continually in hot water during a. four-hour speech, in which he ad- dressed barbed sarcasm in the di- rection of Premier Fergustrtt, whom he vex-med "a, friend of' tha wots." Conservative members, however. had a. retort tbr every thrust of the, former (ttor'yrtr,i.4Mtrett-s., ten Mr. Raney charged Mr; RSI-£611 with being "the friend of tho boot- Lecgers" he was told that the former Attorney-General had created them. Theme was not a little acrimony during Mr. Raney's lengthy and vig- orous address, notably when the former Attorney-General twitted the "wet" element in the Conservative, party for he applause of some of tho Premier's platform statements. E. C. Gran/gs." th?mrervative member Early in the night session Hon. Manning Doherty moved the six months' hoist for the measure, and was supported by Progressive con- trWutort, to the debate,. Liberal members, however, showed no dis- ' position to support the motion. (!ei,nta.tin'.intr, a solid formation be- ihind their Leader in his expression lot opinion that he was prepared to trust the people, but that the Gov- aernment should not arrogatc to iitse'it the wide-open power to take 'tshe vote when, and under what con- d'itions. it saw fit. On this ground Liberal speakers generally opposed the bill. but not the principle of a referendum. Baney in Hot Water. 3 l, Although the debate was on the issue ot whether the Government, should receive wide-open powers to hold a plebiscite or referendum. members d'ibouased a; length the merits of the Ontario Temperance Act with all! the vigor and vehe- mtnce which Mas characterized the subject since its introduction by the Hearst Government in 1916. Except in two or three cases, members en- dorsed the act, but Conservative members denounced its apthtrinitrtra- tion under former Attorney-Genet-WI Remy. Moves Six Months' Holst. the effort to secure second reading. and Premier Ferguson granted an adjournment of the discussion until Tuesday next. For seven solid hours yesterda.s the Legislature debated the second reading of the Government's enab- ling O.T.A. referendum measure. At midnight the Government gaxe up Raney Charges Ferguson With Being "Friend of Weta" - Debate Rages All Day, With Liberals and U.F.O. United MR. DOHERTY MOVES SIX MONTHS' HOIST Leaves Everything to Gov.. ernment, and Liberal Leader Says There Are 36 Alleys Up Which Cabinet Can Go PROPOSED O. TM: VOTE ' IS "A BLANK CHEQUE" FOR PRIME MINISTER 23in?" Ff [A ir't , "The problem is not a question of undue indulgence as against tem- perance. drunkenness as against prohibition. The problem is: Are the people still behinu the O.r.A.?" Mr. lucCtiua1and---No. Mr. Nickle-The honorable mem- 'r speaks possibly from a, full nyledge of the subject, which is ,wlthln our tgitlt. government to which I directed your attention, permit me to say that I believe tho Government should ac- cept the responsibility ot preparing questions. on the books by referendum, and the Premier had pledged the sub- mission of the issue when public sentiment warranted it. "The bill before the House," he satin. "is simply an enabling piece of legislation. Without that bill be- coming an act the present Govern- ment is not in a position to take the opinion of the people, and. there- fore, the Government asks this House, its followers behind it, and those who may sit opposite, to give the Government the privilege it re- quests, when the sentiment of the people demands it, of asking their opinion at such a time and in such a way as the Government may think While the Attorney-General de- cured himself as entirely sympa- thetic to the principle of responsible government, he found himself con- fronted 'today with a condition rather than a theory, inasmuch as the people had placed the statute Faced With a Condition. The Conservative Government, he; said, had been consistent in its? pledges to the people that it would,! give consideration to public senti-f mount. and in omety the Government] Stood true to the pledges it had givenl the people. I Referring to the divergence of opimion in redation to the OKLA. during the last election. tho Attor- ney-General said that there were those who held that the O.T.A. 'shuulld rot be passed in review at the lyDeetettt limo, but that, inasmuch las the people had spoken, they 'sh-zould- be considered to have spoken for a protracted period, if not for a [very long time. "But I think," he said, "it is sound public policy to state that temper- ance, :n more that tariff. or the ad- ministration of our millroads, or the Probrrumr; of immigration. can be considered as settled by mo one gen- eration or no one expression of pub- lire thought. Democracy demands. if it is to.contirtue, that when public opinion is expressed from time to time it shall be respected, and the problem that faces Governments, and will continue to face Govern- ments, is how best to secure am in.- terpyetati;on of the people's desirem": 32.213291: 9!: the 56331219 books. "H [ "Time passed. and possibly condi-' Hons changed." Mr. Nickle stuted.' after noting the decision in, the 1919! '"efereodurr. "Possibly What thei,, people thought at one time they do! not thiok today, and the question of: whether or not the Ontavio Temper-l ance Act is the best possible [iiiiriii-l .tion that this Province shall have 15; [mm a matter ot keen public in-I t terest." "Referring to med as a "wet" because he did not I have Mr. Rauney'a Viewpoint, and Mr. IRune); asked how he had classified I him. moin'wi nu thro, mt 'A'M-'l'w'. uni sac» Lu" "I don't want you to classify me at all," tartly responded the member. Mr. Nickle's Exposition. In opeadng the (Debate on second readrng of his Ontario Temperance Act amendment. Attorney-tren-rad Nickle reviewed the attitude of the Concservative party in days gone by toward temperance. and sum-mar- ized the evenzts reading up to the prohibition law of 1916, which r04 the People Behind It? ard'x e sentiment of the it, of asking their a time and in such vernment may think t.tre_prittciolea of "The Government is the "no that should ay whether there is to be a vote c. not, because it is entrusted with the carrying on of the affairs of the people. The Gov- ernment should set the date, and,, as has been to trust the people, and it would not be Liberal policy it per- missiom was witih.held from the Peo- ple to express their opindon an this or any other gmeat question. But when this comes before us in the shape it now does the Liberals In this House must say that this Gov- ernment is not acting as a Govern- ment Should act. and is not taking the Mature into its conlhitynce, asc2cG overtime-11 should. [ Protesting against the unlimited powers conferred try the measure, the Liberal Leader proceeded: "The policy of the Liberal party always era of vainacial liegis1ation, because the Government is retaining to itself; all the powers and authority which' it possibly can. The private mem-l hens in the Conservative tranks, felhi that they have some status left! Surely they feel that they have some; judgment within themselves with which they can tackle legislation, and I do sympathize with them from) the bottom of my heart if they ave; to be so restrained throughout thei whfie of these four years." I the majority Will'be 47, -iirik as took 'place in Eh? House last evening. l w. E. N. Sinclair. K.C.. Liberal 'Leadexr. qaid that, while it had beer. very interesting bo listen to a resume Iof temperance history, the main is- (ia, was the bill before the House iannd the reasons for its submission in the form in which it appeared. "At the end of my honorable friend's address," he said, "he stated lthaz the Government wishes to have of this act thiyAris -tUmiyUfing'"ii-iii'c"i" might please everyone. The Fergusoninn Era. "It looks to be. thaaxu5teristic " What _I "might Iertp the Forqrut'oniai "This bill has something of the appearance ot the fulfilment ot the prophecy which was reported in the press as having been made by the Premier a year or twp ago-that., when the proper time came for this matter to be brought up befboe the public. something would be pro- duced which would please every- body At ttrat Mush one might think that within the four corners V,__--V.-- VV woow u) nave In its hands everything connected with the "one. and does not wish to take into its confidence the elected representatives in this Legislature, and indicates. if a vote comes, that V V"..- lawlllwl tttst had opportunity to comm bull and in view of the light t, upon it by the Attorney-Ciener; discussion be adjourned. Pt Ferguson, however, declined suggestion. stating that the bi been printed and tredn" members tor many days Liberal Loader Speaks. "Do the people want the Ontario Temperance Act enforced? It so it must be, and should be, enforced while it is on the statute books. This Is the attitude of the Gavan-u- romm ting that the bin 21111} and teen before the attorney- General, th e adjou red. Premier K.C., Liberal ile it had beer. en to a resume r, the main is- members Yuma , consider the 9 light thrown the