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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 4 Apr 1924, p. 3

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imoved the adjournment of the sHouae and put certain questions to 'the Prime Minister. Mr. Ferguson countered by asking Mr. Haney go place them on the order paper m the usual way. Ruled Out of Order. 'Mr. Raney. "lt's not debatable," said Mr. Nickle. The Speaker up- ;held this contention, and then Mr. I Runny asked the Speaker to give the iauthority for that ruling. Mr. i'l'hompson read from the. manual -and declared the motion was not de- batable. Then Mr. Raney moved the adjournment of the House. Thian " Cnbocontintt. GIVESHYDRORIGHT I fi) CONTROL DESIGN I (F ELECTRIC WORKS Before the orders of the day were called Mr. Raney ruse to his feet, and. preparatory to what he had to say. started to refer to the Premier's speech on temperance during the election campaign, at Spenverville. Mr. Ferguson raised a point of order and Speaker Thompson ruled that, if it were not a question or n matter affecting Mr. Haney personally. then he was out of order. Amid cries of "Order!" Mr. Raney said he was going to go on. and he started again to read. Again Mr. Thompson ruled. "We are not Ro- ing to start now making new rules." Mr. Haney said. "I hope tho honor- able member will reaper-t the Chair and the House also," said tho Speaker. Four bills sponsored by Sir Adam Beck were considered yesterday at- ternoon in the Legitsuiture---two in committee and two in the second~ -actitttgtrsu2.11tctt1rrty1yre,s,, deal, Opposition Members Object to Bill Amending Power Commission hot Attorney-General Nickle moved that the orders of the day he walled. and the Speaker put thc motion. "I desire to speak to that nmtlon." said Hon Manning Doherty. Progres- sive Leader. intervened at this point in the debate, and said that it was far from Mr. Ftaney's mind to take any line of conduct discourteous to the Speaker. Mr. Thompson again repeated his ruling and tho reasons therefor. and put the question that the orders of the day be read. The motion was carried. Premier Ferguson said he Enough: it unbecoming that any member should defy the ruling of the Chair. The persistent defiance of the Speaker was unprecedented in the House. he added, and. there was only one remedy for a case of that kind. "My honorable friend knows what it "I move the House now adjourn." said Mr. Raney. is. - I don't want to appeal to the Chair for that ruling." The House then put a bill through second reading. and.then Mr. Raney moved the adjournment of thr House. He read a selection from the reported speech of Dr. Forbes God. frey at Weaton Wednesday night, it which Dr. Godfrey expressed him, self respecting the possibility of t. plebiscite on the Ontario Temper Ance Act. Mr. Raney asked th' Premier it Dr. Godfrey was speaking as an individual or as a member o the Government: had the Premic now arrived at the point where h: thought there was a sutttcient1: manifested desire tot. a change it the law to warrant the Governmen in submitting a plebiscite; and i the Government recognized tht Bo,liAarity of Cabinet government. Premier Ferguson arose and said "Let me say this is the most out raucous proceeding I ever have wit hes-sod." "The orders of the day will now be proceeded with." said the Speaker. Ram: Returns to Attack. I There was some discussion also on ithe clauses giving the Commission 3 the right to direct local commissions 'to collect arrears. and to discipline such local commissions which grant rates other than approved by the Commission by subjecting them to , disqualification from omee. Must Stop Abuses of once. Mr. Sinclair and Harold Fisher (Liberal, West Ottaway doubted if even the Hydro Commission should be given such wide powers, particu-: larly the power of diaqualiticiition of; local commissions. 9 Eventually the clauses carried. f The bill to return the bonds do-l posited by the City of Hamilton with f the Hydro was amended by includ-g in: in it the provision to return the? bonds to _ East "riamttoro', North; Grim-by and Barton. It. H. Kemp, (Progressive, Lincoln) wanted all; an. other municipalities included, Sir Adam said there had been cases where friends and relatives of members of local commission: had their houses and factories wired without using the meter. These were serious matters, he sat-id. Liberal Leader Sinclair "tinted to know it the Government would do anything to check exorbitant prices which might follow from the crea- tion of a virtual monopoly in the electrical manufacturing business. It seemed to him the bill was going a long way to place power in the hands of the Commission. Sir Adam ex- plained that electrical equipment, even the simplest kind. was intri- cate and dimcult to understand and intricate pieces of machinery to use. Mr. Sinclair said that a year ago he had some alterations done in his home, and a 810 Job coat him 8125 before he was through. "I was charged $125 for a $10 Job, and the country is full ot it," he said. There was too much of that sort of regula- tion now, he argued. Premier Ferguson said that ab. ready the principle of the act had been applied. The Government in- spected meats and canning factories, and now it was only going to inspeot electrical appliances to keep peopte's houses from being burned down and to keep people from being killed. Mr. Doherty said he was confident that the power would not he abused by Sir Adsim Beck, but it was a tre- mendous danger tor any man to have it in his power to say to elec- trical manufacturers: "You have of- tended me, and you can't make elec- trical equipment." $125 for $10 Joh. Hon. Manning Doherty. Progres- sive Leader. thought this power was somewhat drastic. It would be bet- ter, he argued. to leave something to tho discrimination of the individ- ual purchaser. People were be- ginning to expect the Government and the Church to do everything for. them. The bill was going too far. ""ri-P:lasi, APPL' Cf": Another clause in the not gives the Hydro-Electric Power Commis- don the right to prescribe the de- sign. construction, installation. pro- tection, use, maintenance. repair, ex- tension. alteration, connection and? disconnection of all installations. plant and other works and matters used in the generation and distribu- tion of electrical power in Ontario; prohibiting the new in Ontario of any such works or matters until the same shall have been inspected and approved, and prohibiting the ad- vertising or display or offering for sale. or other disposal, until the, same shall have been inspected and, approved. Lots of Inspectors. , Considerable discussion took place over the various clauses ot the hill to amend the Power Commission Act. Clause 11 of this amending art was objected to by Aurellen Be- langer tLiheml. Russell). who in" sued that it was conferring leglsln- tive power upon the Cabinet Council. and that such powers were. undesir- able, even if It were legal to grant them. Mr. Helanger's critic-ism had its effect on the Prime Minister. who asked that the Human. stand over. ing with lranchlsea granted to street railways, the terms of which have been varied, will be amended to ap- ply only to the City of Eondon. Pre- mier Ferguson said. The ttrnt bill, containing amendments 'to the Pub- lite Utilities Art, went through com- niIlttee practit'ally without discus- s on. £35 'ittiiiti _iiiiri'r:; 9.32:3 ,, aE and, utter some discussion. the Pre- mier intimated that some enabling power to permit the Government to deal with these other municipalities, it they applied for the return of the bonds, might be placed in the bill. The bill stands over in order to have amending clauses reprinted. Will Apply Only to London. When Sir Adam Beck moved Bee- ond reading of his bill respecting street railway fares under certain acts, and explained that where an act of 1922 gave the railway right to charge fares higher than the city wished. these terms should not apply to an extension or a renewal of the agreement. Mr. Doherty asked him what city this applied to, Guelph or Windsor. ~ "London," said Sir Adam. , The Premier explained that the', bill would have to be amended so it' would apply only to London. Mr. Sinclair registered hie protest against legislation of that kind be- ing introduced for certain localities under the guise of a public act. Investigation Is Under Way In Highways Department Premier Ferguson Tells Liberal Leader Sinclair That All Branches Of Service Handling Funds Will Be Probed In reply to a question by W. E. N. Sinclair, K.C., Liberal Leader in the Legislature. Premier Ferguson yesterday confirmed a story in The Globe to the effect that an investigation and audit was being carried on into the Highways Department by Government officials. "All the branches of the service handling Provincial funds," he said to the Liberal Leader, "are being audited--every branch that has been handling Provincial funds is being audited; the Highways Branch, too." Mr. Sinclair--No special attention? Premier Ferguson--None whatever. They are all getting special attention.

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