The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 10 Apr 1924, p. 1

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A.--Woull you + specify what is large? $ Because It Was First Q.'---"'('Il, thousand--dollay bills or * five--hundred--dollar -- hbills----did you $1,000 Bill He Ever SQ@W | |Feccive Theser 'A.--To the besp of aaaaallz _ _ _z my knowledge I did. _ Q.--Now whnat month was that SMITH AND MCGARRY in? You have said, "I think it was MONED TO PROBE . in December,'"' but I want to make SUM positive on that? A.--I cannot swear Geimaiuas en ccccc en Crergrco e | to the date. It could be found from P ; 4 & i e the files of the bank. It was a Called primarily to give c-\'xdet.u-c | period of four years ago, and it is regarding a $12,500 cheque which impossible to recollect the date. went through Aemilius Jarvis & Co., Q..--Impossible to remember the dated March 3, 1920, Edwin Harlan l'ex'c's't diltel'-' _A-'-Q ? sir. j a ~ Ns s io t 4 --And in that connection--ws f\la('.\hllan. Bank of Toronto tellr; i have heard quite m lot of these in Stratford in December, 1919, j thousand--dollar bills and five--hun-- startled the Public Accounts Com-- dred--dollar bills, and we _ are mittee yesterday by testifying that ||anxious to know exactly where they he ~recollected former Provincial 1""'"*- Now, can you recollect a pay-- T rensurer Smit) aking 4 s \ ment in December when you were Treasurer Smith making a deposit it'eu'rr at the Stratford branch of a containing at least one thousand-- }'|certain number of thousand--dollar dollar bill at the end of 1919 or \mn'.\-. fAive--hundred--@ollar bills, as early in 1920. ibrmxght in by -- Mr. Smith? A.--I 3 i & s . Chaen $ n ran & cannot swear as to the date, but I ' He remembered Mr. b,x.nlth.(mnmg 1'h(fl.0 received deposits from Mr. into the .bank and walking into the (|Smith of large legals. .\Ianf{ger:s office, after _which: 'th\' (: Q.----Would they be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Manager V.han_ded him (MacMillan) }|g* How many legails wouwld there the deposit sh'p and the deposit con-- _ |pa? A.--I cannot state the amount. "'"";"g _t_'"*'l_ bill, (;"J bf'"f"' '? ',}e!'?""" \ To the best of my recollection there to t}e credit of the former Provin-- | was at least.one or more thousand-- lcu;xl Preasurer. Inasmuch as he had dollar bills \never seen a thousand--dollar bill be-- ; _flan a R 8 rexmit ifore, Mr. MacMillan was very posi-- dr?di;%fig 3:it;hor'ecgll_ef'}hj\ee-};::\-_ | tive before the committee that a SEIDIY 1?\_) l' én § 9 * | bill of such denomination had gone poss:n!y 14Ye DO°OM: \ through his hands. Manager Made Out Deposit. :\Vill sSsummon Smjm and McGarry. Q.----Who was the Manager of the | The committee took another im-- Bank of Toronto there? A.--G. L. | portant step yesterday when it ac-- McHattie. cepted the motion of W. E. N. Sin-- Q.--Was he there during all clair, K.C., seconded by Harold Fish-- [ er, K.C., Liberal member for Ottawa, |your period as teller? A.--Uniless 'to summon before the committee he was on vacation. next Friday, or at a convenient sit-- | --Q.----Did he know of these de-- ting, Hon,. Peter Smith, Hon. 'F. W. | posits? A.--Yes, sir, he did. McGarry, former Deputy Provincial |~__Q.--Did he speak to you about Treasurer C. A. Matthews, and L. C. \them? A.--Conversation -- regarding Mason, husband of Matthews's step-- | the deposits ? daughter and former assistant in Q.----Well, conversation regarding the bond department of the Home \ these legals that you speak of that ;Bu_nk. who is al}_eged to have par-- | were deposited by Mr. Smith in the | ticipated w;th the suspended Deputy | bank ? A.--I believe the deposit was E'I'reasurer in a four--way split of. \ made out by the Manager of the |$11,000 profits on an Ontario bond \ bank, and in turn handed to me as | transaction. | teller. . At the adjournment hour the Q.--Can you recollect that? T committee, upon the suggestion of \suppose you had not seen thousand-- f(:hairman Finlayson, moved to have | dolilar bills before that, had you? summoned G. L. McHattie, Bank of A.--No, gir. ! Toronto Branch Manager in Strat»* | lford at the time Mr. Smith is al----_ |First in Captivity. leged to have deposited a one--thou-- | p » F 'sando(]ollax' bill. The --committee | Q.------An'(} you don't get m'any xx; 'also ordered production of the de-- IStratford. Ao__It is the first one ' ag ; 8 bhave received in the cage. | posit slip of that date, and any other | < | documents relating to the occasion |__@.----¥ou had been there how fonk | e R las teller? A.--About a year's time. A Cheque for $12,500. h Q.--And you had not seen any |__At the commencement of yester-- | thousand--dollar bills? A.--No, ons iday's gitting, A. V. ; Young, book-- .Q.--And that lmpressed'lt on your | keeper for Aemilius Jarvis & Co., mind pretty well when yolu saw 8 | testified regarding a $12,500 chequei Elngusz;nd-dollar bill coming? A--It I » a 1 y SIr. :wrz)ich was produced, dated March 3, G.--Some of these deposits were |1920, drawn to his order, and which| o Was Mr he had cashed in legals----twelvel made out by the Manager. J SA * \thousand--dollar bills and one five-- Sx;mth present at that t"?e'd d:; hundred--dollar bill--and handed to| || When the deposit was hande Harold Pepall in the company's me . 7 ' office. The cheque was _ drawn Q'--V,,Vhe" thebdefi)oslt ,'j';'"{l;'gnfig'é on instruction of Mr. Pepall and he to béogllt o'bf'":;g b:nl':ve handed the money to Pepail when! gon 7 ige he had cashed it. Young had no! |,, @----~ADJ 410 s anl 000 in |\ idea of the disposition of the money. n d . ol esn hHim . e _ _ Out of curiosity at the size of the y Q'--Dl,d 'fflu s"ee :l_x_l_ll gdc;dinto U lcheque and the fact that it had been ,| Manager's office! /. 4 a-- Q.--And the Manager then han made out to himself, Young testified ; m it?" A.--Yes, sir. that he had abstracted the cheque as } ed you\?he depoeid .ther.e be a'deposit a souvenir after it had been --re: @~--l 5' vggu would be handling turned to the company. He hac ]Shp there.u fiu, . --Yes, $Sf, i handed it over to Assistant Polic« w:ulgepos $upt . "* I }gomgmssim;;: 'éL';Sd Cl;?dy C | Q.----lFor\bhe amount of the deposit uesday. > y called ani 9 1d show to whose asked him for it. || made? And it would S in Your 1 Afr. MacMillan told Provincial 'creditz These were placed in y i iTreag}lthxz Price that he was general bQOkB. A.--Yes, sir.

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