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Q.---You are not sure whether Mr. Smith had disposed of his farm and moved into Stratford previous to ) your leaving the bank, or not? A.-- i No. sir. I don't. é (a.--jou left the bank December ; 31, 1919? A.--I would not state the l date-near that time. ', (t.--mrelt, it was that date or e Q.--He had been making deposits and withdrawals at your bank all through there years? 4.+Yes, sir. Q.--LMr. Smith moved into Strat- ford approximately what date? A.-- I cannot Bay, sir. Then Mr. MacMillan came down to Toronto and Joined the staff of Aemiiius Jarvis & Co., occupying the position of statistician. Although he knew about the $12,500 cheque that had been drawn and cashed by A. H. Young, and the proceeds of which were turned over to Mr. Papal]. he could not give any information as to the disposition of the money, or what it was for. He could not identify the cheque. Mr. Doherty tMttttt-Bxtuuines. Q.---Would you know, or do you, know, whether he did bank with' any other bank? A.---Not that I know of. Q.--He had his account there during these years I' A.--Part of the time at least. Mr. Doherty took up cross-exam- ination on the point of Hon. Peter Smith's transactions with the Bank of Toronto. Mr. Doherty-How long have you been acquainted with Mr. Smith? A.---dunce about 1915, when I went. into the bank. Q.---Did Mr. Smith keep an ac- count with your bank between 1915 and 1919? A.--a'o the best of my knowledge. Q.---You are' quite ttatiatted there would be a deposit slip? A.---yes, sir, I am. Q.---And you are quite positive there was a bank book issued by Vol? Afr-Isgued by the bunk. Q.-wais it previous to our . ing the bank, just at the J/ll iAtt. cember, 1919? A.--I cannot say whether he had moved to atrattorit at that time or not. I believe he had a term. I know he had a farm Whether it was disposed of at that; date I don't know. i Q.--on November 14, 1919? A.--- It was after that date. Q.--99o you know how long after that date? A.--a do not, sir. Q.--The deposit slips would show this? A.--Yes,air. Q.-Now, Mr. MacMillan. in De- cember. we have had evidence here, we have had Mr. Rogers'a evidence. He stated that there was 87.500 paid out through Harry Pepall to Andy PepaJl on a. loan which was dated Dev. I, 1919. In December, the lat- ter part of November, or December, 1919. Can you give us the date that large deposits were made on any one date? A.--ho, sir. I cannot. Q.---Would it be toward the iirttt of the year. or nearer to the flrtet of December? A.-43an you tell me when the previous Government came into power? Q.--And that would be a, separate account? A.---Yerr, air. Q.---Was there another account? A.---%'ot that I can recall. Q.--Would Mr. Smith have a. gen- eral account as well as a. savings ac- count? A.--He may have had both. Q.--You handled' ttid GGTrfirii" 1i; posits as well as the general? A.--- Yes, sir. Q.--That wounfiU an account. of tho Perth Breeders' Association. of which he was Treasurer? A.---Yes, sir. Q.---1t would have nothing to do Wit} tttls'?, 6.-No, air. -V -i"."el..9.r "W nauv yucc- hook? A.---n would bein Mr. Smith's name. Q.----Were there any other accounts in that branch in anyone elae's name controlled by Mr. Smith? A.---, be- lieve he was Treasurer of the Perth Breeders' Association. 4?.---Waa this in a savings account or in a general account? A.--r cannot say. In Mr. Smith's Name. . Q.---wouid there be a pass-book issued by your bank? A.---), sit. there would be. , fe,,--?' whose qqrpe I"?! the pass- It wouid iii, i/firry %fGG, ""riiorsay ' In -. .uuy ruse on Tuesday. underreggggolao $itd1.,2'it.'c.eerxe. ( hqu-e are endeavouring to curry on Imination, Mr. MacMillan said. that .33 'l11,',tfg','e,p", the Yee, 111 the the $12,500 cheque would be a. mat- 3 me: e. ' .a'm..mu endeavor txr ter ot some curiosity to the staff {ma t guy spec-(21131 Clraumtrtartcty that of Aemllius Jarvis t Company be-j y/dll':',','; Il',)'?',.,?" Premiar. cause It was being drawn to cash, 'Ho ante. , m adiourvnmg the and that was what drew it to his at- 1th Th Premier Per-on Matad tention. He could not recall whether (ii, at ble', date of prom-03am now Mr. Young had shown him the i epem ed largely Upon the atten- cheque or not. He could not recall fdance of members and the 'ttmtiancy clearly ever having had any con- of the Waiting Departmam, versatlon with Mr. Young about it,, Seen atterwaex1, Hott. Mr. Fergu- but he believed it had been men- I "on said there was no reason why tioned to him. ' [the House should not rise Tuesday Mr. Beltuttrer--Do you remember L?..?, next week. It is tiherttomr pos- whether that deposit (of Mr. Isrble that the Public Accounts Oom- Smith's) was in bills or cheques? gmlttee will silt alter the once pro- A.---Theim may have been cheques imgues, " the hymn-oi into tho with it. I cannot state. gTreaIsux-y 1Nmsttrt-,.ii"i m".-. . Q.---And there was at least one thousand-dollar hill, If not more, in that deposit? A.----'" the best of my knowledge there was. Q.--That, I think, was the first time you saw a thousand-dollar bill? Ac-yes, sir. Charles McKeown---.1 think you told the committee that Mr. Smith came into the otBce, went into the omee of the Manager, and that the Manager made out the deposit slip then and brought it to you with the money to deposit to the credit ot the Hon. Peter Smith? A.---To the best of my knowledge that was the pro- cedure. Q.--These were ndt that type? A.---, tannot state. Examined by McKeown. (2.-9re you aware if there is a form of legals that is used only and solely between banks? A-Not that I know of. There may be for clearing purposes only, but I don't know. Q.--They are currency? A.-- They are currency. Q.---They are not the legals that are used between the banks? A.---) believe they are the same. As you probably know, there are no thou- sand-dollar bills Issued by the differ- ent banks. tt.--Now you say the deposit was made in legals. What do you mean by legals? What do you call legals? At-Dominion of Canada. bills. Q.--momtnion of4rialfalius,, A.--Yem, sir. 2---Thems are the regular Do- minion thousand-dollar notes? A.--- Yes, sir. Q.--That is very important, be- cause the man who was in here, in Jarvis & Co., Mr. Rogers, swore that this cheque for $7,600 was cashed tn January. not in December at all. It was cashed in January? A.---That deposit may have been made in January. It was along about pre- vious to when I left the bank. I cannot swear to it. Q.---/Phe deposit was made, though. previous to your leaving 'i3tratford, leaving the bank, and you left the bank at the end of the year? A.---. Yes, air. m December or January. Q.-----) don't know whether that deposit that was made was subse- quent to or at the time ot Mr. Smith's disposal of any of his herd? Al-r-r don't, Mr. _ Q.--9qot ,ppiaGGik'tisii/, even? A No; it would be a more guess. previous date? A.--tt may have been later. Q.----" may have been after Janu- ary 1? A.---" recollection is just about that time. A About New Year's? A.--About tdts1lllpl. Q.----Nbw, this deposit that you re- fer to which was made by Mr. Smith and which you remember so dis- tinctly. can you give the committee any idea of the amount of that de- pogit'.' A.--a cannot, sir. ttyu: 1-dI V,,-_- "an AA'V ("5'0" Why flthe House should not rise Tuesday of next week. It is tiherefore DOB- ?si'ble that the Public Accounts Oom- imlttee wall Mt alter the fuse pro- ;mgues, " the m-vedjlgauo into the (Treasury Department "ma-3.]. s..- - -- ,____., . an. "JUW'IU-Xl" the House, Premier Perarturon stated that the date of prom-03am now depended largely upon the amen- dance of members and the 'rtrlaiancy of the Pntnrt'ing Department. all-.. -~~ _ - -- f MANY BILLS CONSIDERED _ v. -. .rwucg \ruv'rmve. East Wellington) as to the report. that the House might be adjourned over Easter for some time while the committees carried on: their work in the meantime. May Rise on Tuesday. "I am not responsible for the re- ports of the newspapers," said Pre- . miei' Ferguson yesterday in the Legislature, in reply to the question I'., .3 '12,;.W_ "E; Ban ey. ( Progressive. HOUSE PROROGA-'I'IUN , IN LESS THAN WEEK Wolf-Hunters as Well " Wolves Raid Treasury, Says Sinclair A peculiar point, that Provincial Treasurer Price stated he could not understand, was the payment through the Jarvis firm of the Prov- ince's $4,000 of Indebtedness to Andy Pepall for services representing the Province in London in the redemp- tion of Provincial securities. In- stead of the Province issuing the cheque direct to him, it apparently had deposited the money with the Jarvis firm, which in turn had issued its cheque to Pepsi]. It also came out during Mr. Young's evidence that the big Jarvis English transactions for the Prov- ince, involving five or six millions of dollars of inscribed stock, did not appear on the books of the concern handled by Young as assistant and head bookkeeper. and he thought they might have gone through Mr. Jarvis's own books. In any event, he had not seen entries of them, and could not state where the profits, which Mr. Priem stated to he between $t500,000 and $700,000. had gone. Mr. Alex. Lewis brought out that there was no previous arrangement that he should come to Aemmus Jarvis & Company after leaving Strattord. The $12,500 Cheque. Q.--ayo you know whether they were of large amounts or whether there might be some small ones? Ac-Artie" might be some small amounts; that would be specified on the deposit slip. Although the $12,500 cheque mat- ter was overshadowed by the testi- mony of Mr. MacMillan. the former Stratford bank teller. the history of it was pursued with interest by mem- bers of the committee. It eventually turned up in the commission account of the Aemilius Jarvis concern. and, , by-Provincial Treasurer Price's com- putation, was one-quarter of 1 per cent. of a. $5,000,000 loan the company was floating for the Prov- ince at that time. At a previous sit- ting R. R. Rogers, former Manager. of the Jarvis company, testified to! an arrangement he had made to pay: Andy Pepall one-quarter of 1 per; cent. for any Provincial business he? could influence to the company. __ a IS AIM OF nan P oevaa-tGiG't' " nmnnlated,