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has been > [ i0 2 Cely ~Herrd : EV90 who criticize should get busy. Mr. Sinclair--I don't think this committee can rise before Matthews and Mason are 'before the committee, As the matter stands now, it will not do to leave it the way it is. The Cha:lnnan----Any ©suggestion that has been maiade to anvona wan Male ul s e cooal l FF] PEDDEIETEED EUE C €Gue e . + R. O. Denman of the firm -- of Browning, Harris, Denman & Co. was called, and testified that no ar-- rangement that he knew of had been made by Harris to recoup the share-- holders of the Browning -- concern. He could not explain the missing cash book and ledger sheets of the concern. While he was giving evi-- dence Hon. Mr. Biggs said he want-- ed to arrange with the committee before it adjourned to bring to it all his personal receipts and cheques | which might throw any light on his personal transactions, -- which had been a matter of comment. "Holes Stopped and Foxes Gone." 'J. A. Currie called attention, on the supposed eve of committee ad-- Journment, to the fact that there were other departments to be ex-- amined, and the fact that pages oft books and entire books were missing would indicate that next year "the holes would be stopped and the foxes gone." Ag far as he was con-- cerned, there had not been and would not be any "inside pull" ex-- ercized with or by him to prevent anything being brought forward. '"'Let us clean this thing up," he urged, '"so we won't have anything 'llke this for the next 20 years.'" Mr. Price--I have been watlching what evidence would come, except that which came through my hands. I like publicity. I am sure the Gov-- ernment itself likes to hear whai the newspapers have to say, but when anyone is carryirg a load and climbing a ladder it is not a friend that tries to tell him he is going to make a misstep and fa:) down. If investigations are to be carried on there will probably have to be other means of bringing a lot of material DMeford. ho _ Anjas,i,, . " . ~~ . HUAbGEE] i George R. Harris of the Provincia Securities was recalled in connection with his accounts, and he was unable to explain Mr. Clarkson's failure to find payments out to Messrs. Brown-- ing and Caldwell, as he had stated before the committee had been made. There were various accounts from which they could have been made, and his personal cheques, he was sure, would show the amounts in question--$5,000 and $4,000, As to the bonds bought with the profits of the Provincial Securities, some went to Mrs, Harris and some he kept, but he could not enlighten the committee as to the proportion. None to Hon. Peter Smith. The committee again took up dis-- cussion of what course to pursue in the case of getting a statement from M. J. Haney, and on motion of Mr. Currie, who said he would not ac~ cept the statement of one medical man, a young osteopath, it was de-- cided that Mr. Clarkson and the Chairman employ a medical man at the expense of the committee to go ang eiamine Mr. Haney. The Chairman--The matter ha been in your hands, and you hav: done the best you could ever sinc: it occurred? A.--Yes. None of them, he swore, went to Mr. Smith. Mr. Biggs, he said. would ultimately lose every cent of ;Pre $10,000 he had in the Browning m. Q.--You don't know as a matter of fact? A.--No. Mr. MacBride--Are the Provin-- cial Police doing everything they car to carry these subpoenas to them' A.----Yeqs. and searched every place we had any trace of them, and there is mOo trace of them at all. s Q.--Are they at the So6? A.--No Q.--Do you know where Matthew: has been last week? A.----I havt heard rumors. Mr. Sinclair--You cannot say| whether we can reasonably expect them in a day or two? A.--As far as I know I can say you might not expect Matthews in a day or two. "Not Sure" of Mason. Mr. Currie----How about the other man? A.--Well, I am not so sure about him. Q.--His parents are trying to go' bim back? A.--I understand atr effort is being made to get hin 'salions are to be carried on will probably have to be other of bringing a lot of material k. the, committee, and those inTkLint. c S _% it loG _t#ha .,.;;_ _ @nyone was to the . police. No attemp: _ made by @nyone to conceal lhur535~/ ; Aprd| 72 Q..----You had no means of know-- ing that he had any information to give? A.--No. Mr. Currie--Did you make any ef-- fort to have men search the trains"? A.----I didn't. I still thought he was in the city, and for two days after that we kept watch on different places--his relatives and so on--but wo didn't get any trace of him. @.--Did he speak to you or any of your officers? A.--I never spoke to Matthews. was The committee then adjourned until night, asking George R. Harris to remain with Inspector Cuddy over the adjournment hour, to come back 10 give evidence. Mr. Haney's Declaration. of the visit to his apartments and «sked him if he was .prepared to make a statement. "Mr. Haney said he would have come to the commit-- tee if his doctor would have permit-- ted him to do so," stated Mr. Fin-- layson. "His imind was clear, but he Mr. Finlayson read the statement. A Member--This is a declaration that he did not at any time take money or do wrong?. «+--I have heard since that he was ©ware of it. When the committee resumed at its evening session Mr. Finlayson said he had been informed by Mr. Clarkson that it might be better to examine Mr. Haney without the presence of strangers. Mr. Clarkson informed Mr. Haney of the purpose The. Chairman--He says he did nothing wrong, directly or in-- tieve Ma-tt:h---efi'; had any "resdr? l believe he was being watched? A. Mr. Currie--If you found him in the States you could bring him back? Mr. Price--Oh, yes; we could bring him back. i No h Mr. Nickle -- Your instructions were if you could locate him to keep bim? A.--Our instructions were not to let him away. If he attempted to go away, to detain him. I told the men if he attempted to go away to hoid him and notify me at once. Mr. Price--Warrants woere all ready to be sworn out? Q.--What steps were taken to se-- cure his apprehension? A.--Wel!, there was no warrant; there was only a subpoena. Q.----Were warrants prepared and not sworn? A.--They were. My in-- structions were that if he attempted to go away they were not to let him go. They were to notify me. Those were the instructions--that he was to be watched caerefully. Mr. Nickle--Since then what? i. ----I1 have tried every means to got him and made every effort to find out where he was. I have got dif-- ferent reports, and reports that he is quite long distances away from here. I have got no trace of him in the city since that night. No Warrant; Merely Subpoena. Cay l soo uam s CCmICmc n ae ( es EBMGL 'to keep a shadow on Matthews. 1 detailed two men to do this, and their report to me was that they saw him--saw him going home, watched his house all night, and next morning another man took up the house. That was on the 28th. He went downtown; they followed him down, and they stayed with him, following him to places where h~ went until 5 or 6 o'clock, when hss came up to an office on Bay Street. went in, and left his car o'utside, and the car remained there until some-- where whout 2 o'clock. He didn' show up. They watched the car. That is the last they have seen of Mr. Matthews. It was a building near Queen Street some place--a printing house.'" Mr. Currie--It wasn't The Globe? A.--Not The Globe. Mr. Price--Did they keep up a vigil outside his house after that? A.--Yes, sir; it was two days after that we found out he wasn't there. Q.--Was he alone? A.--No; somebody went into the build-- ing with him. One came out. Mat-- thews must have gone out the back door. They watched the car there for him to come out, and they had a car there. At Attorney--General Nickle's re-- quest Inspector Cuddy was again placed on the stand to tell how Ml:,it,them escaped the police super-- ¥ision. '"On the 27th of last month," ho said, "I was instructed by Mr. Price Q@.----Have you any reagon to be-- Matthews Vanished. 'ntown; they followed 1 they stayed with him, i to places where h or 6 o'clock, when hss n otfice on Eax BStreet. No Opportunity to Examine. Mr. Sinclair pointed out that it was a declaration taken before Mr. Finlayson, and that members of the committee "with other views" had nad no opportunity to examine him. "It is valueless as evidence, though the Public Accounts Committee may enter it upon its records," he said. "Under no circumstances would it be entered into the records of a court. Here is a declaration 'taken with no opportunity to ask questions. Mr. Finlayson objected to the atti-- iude of Mr. Sinclair, adding that he hbad been a party to the motion to sond him to Mr. Haney's apartments for a statement. Mr. Sinclair--I gsay, take the state-- ment for what it is worth. Mr. Price pointed out that it was a decla.rati&n that he had not re-- ceived any money, as had been sug-- gested. I leave it 'rt'of ffi?dct;t-na'i.itzg to de: cide upon its value." Mr. Sinclair pressed the point that Mr. Haney was the only witness before the committee who had not been -- examined. Mr. --Finlayson answered he would not take the ceclaration M there had been any cissension among members of the committee in taking evidence in this fashion. Mr. Sinclair--It is true I did not ubject. I registered my protest as 2 lawyer against any record of this description being filed. _ _ __ Mr. Clarkson was called by Mr. Funlayson and stated he had com-- municated with Mrs. Haney during the afternoon, who had been inform-- ©d it would be a greater shock if doctor were sent to the apartmen to examimnme Mr. Haney. Mr. Haney, ho stated, had been told of the evi dence of the afternoon session, an was asked if he had received $25, C00, if he paid money to Hon. Thomas McGarry, or if money had been taken to the Parliament Build-- ings, and finally if it had entered campaign funds. Mr. Haney, said Mr. Clarkson, told him he desired to come before the committee, but the doctor had denied him permis-- sion. Before the statement was finally entered into the records of the com-- mittee, Mr. Sinclair reiterated that the declaration was absolutely value-- less, and said he understood th visit to Mr. Haney was to interroga him upon the evidence of Whittaker "Account" of Mr. Harris. George B. Harris, 0f PFOViJUCIG Fecuritiee Company fame, was then placed in the box and examined by Chairman Finlayson and J. A. Cur on the special bond account whic te had carried in the Union Bank. "I had a special account in con-- nection with the Province of Ontart Dond account," said the witness. "To was done in that way to keep th transactions separate for the ban and so that we could take out th piofit and put it into capital." Mr. Currie--There was a lot 0 money chequed out of that account and we can't find out where it h gone. Did it all go into -- your pocket? Witness--As I remember it, i went into capital, or was absorbed by the firm. There may have been a few hundreds or thousands trans-- ferred to myself or to Mr. Dean. Mr. Currie repeated his attempt to discover further details about Har-- ris's specia) account, but finally gave it up to turn to the missing sheets from the ledger of Morgan -- Dean, Harris & Mulvaney. 82 ! mM L _ 0o 0 Amtaoik splkke Mr. Currie--That was & JoInl °/ count? Witness--Not at all. Mr. Currie--It has all the ear-- marks of a jJoint account. You might as well tell the committee who was in with you. Witness--There Wwas$ ml)l suggestion of a Joint account at all. Mr. Currie--Was it a joint account with the bank? Witness--No. Missing Ledger Sheets. Mr. Sinclair--Why is Hon. Thomas McGarry's name mentioned in the statement? It was not mentioned in the evidence this afternoon. Mr. Finlayson--I asked the ques-- tion because you asked Mr. Haney to be brought here to give evidence on the point. sc _ This question and & & were repeated several Mr. Currie--When did you take those ledger sheets out of the book .~----the sheets that are missing ? Witness--I have n0o idea when they were taken out. This question and a similar answer _ awa' wanmnaotad «everal times. Wit' Harris, of Provincial