The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 4 Mar 1925, p. 1

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2 Recognized as one of tho must (pronounced "drys" in the Legisla- |turc. Mr. Joynt was counted as ont' lot those who might bolt the Conser Native party on the 4.4 per cent. beer "35119. but last night he gave as In: lanswtw to newspaper queries of l"What will John Joynt do'."' that hrs (lad "unlimited faith in the Attorney- iGeneral. Mr. Nickle." Another Con- "servative dry member. Aaron Sweet Dundas. stated that he could nut vote want of confldence in the Got- ernment on the Sinclair or 12antxy amendments. -- VOTE 0N bi/ttte TO BE TAKEN TODAY; TORY RANKS SOLID , Willsou t _ryyt.rE.1tlyt, ,Elaf'i'lft mam); A Beitutte,rOLi,eAri. Rug, '99"). and Aaron Sweet (Comma-1 'tlve. Dumas). l With tho announcement in the Legislature last evening of. John Joynt. Conservativo member for North Htwotr---a strong temperam-e man from an overwhelmingly dry riding-thar he would support, 1hr- Government in the division on tho 4.4 beer amendments. it became al- most certain that the Government will present a solid front in the vote today. To Support Stronger Beer. Even John Joynt, Pronounced "thy," Says He'll Vote With Party PREMIER'S ADDRESS NEXT _ ' '77"" D W. G. Willem! (Conservative. Niagara: Falls) pleaded for lower Hydro "tetri for his city to onset higher cost of trim. sportation. Mr. Willson criticized the ex. port of pulpwood. and urged that Cans. than natural resources should be de. veJttpetLt_tl Cum..- - ,7 Mr. Willem: said he believed the condi. Hons confronting the Government war- ranted the Prime Minister in giving the eople something different on temperance Fines from what they had now. The spirit of lawlessness Emailed in the land, he declared. and he elieved that in triv- mg the people the mild beverage pro. posed " would satisfy the people, and that they would not make home-made concoctions. It would do away with bootlegglng to a great extent. the speaker believed. He announced his support of the tt_roposa1. -.. . - - A.'Beianger. Liberal member for Rus- sell, opened, with the admission that he, was, what the Prime Minister had term- him inst session, a "dpctrip3lre." "The encroachment on personal liberty," said Mr. Beianger. "has resulted in making this Province the umthimt-stock not only of the other ProvinCes of Canada. but the whole British Empire. we have in On. tario hypocrisy "sailed. yrs htre liquor wan" Lower Hydro Rates. t There seems to he nm the Iva: doubt hut that the Gnvm'nmm will have: an overwhelming majority and count among its supporters members from the. Liberal group. Harold Fisher. TCC. (Liberal, ot, tawal, one of the members who was to vote behind Mr. Sinclair. had to leave last night for Ottawa. Those who took mm in the de- bate yesterday were: P. W. Wilson (Conservative. Windsor): W. Cl. Weichell tConservative. North wateNoot--both of whom vigor- ously criticized the OtA.--w, G. (Conservat We. Niagara WeAneSA3 "l t emporium' winch an came: mug um- Kenna". We have our doctors who are become tho' melam- of the sons of Bacchus. and we have an honest people who are forced. in order to enjoy their {OPEN}!!! liberty, to rum-It to sub. ertutte---yetr, to sillywdebnsing subter- fuge." ' - "an0 to Mt In Cellars." Another inherent British right which had been abrogated. the member for Bus- sell Mated, we: the right of the trader in advertise his wares. The profim'ers of native wines in Ontario "had to sit in their cellars waiting for their clientele." Mr. "Manger vrliinized the Harem. ment's refusal inst session to take into their t?onihlertee on the proposed plebi- rmite questizms the reprost?tttpttiv"s of the people in the Legislature, although they afterward called in the moderationists and prohlhition1tfyt to help them frame the Questions. _ What standing and (anger lIll: quvsuuan. TM p"... _"-""'."".. -.._ _ ,VV of these two bodies, demanded Mr. Be- langer. as representative" ot the people? Tho. Goverhmeut'tr moasure to assist the trv,,',',l11',1,i,t,"t in meeting unemploy- ment com" Ions Mr. Rolanger condnmned an n half-measure to meet a serious situ. Minn. More Treasury Sandals? He )ru-'r'oded to state his conviction that tine Government muld not let rest the Treasury Department scandals where they had been left last. year. and he be, Moved the Public Accounts Committee (might to start right in where it loft off. Th B, he urged. should hr done in the very interests " public morality, and not for the purpose of convicting my individual or past Governmeritc-cwhieh, he said, he believed to be. iqyocrrrt, u k c Mr. Wilson "Giif it was not his inten- Mon to introduce a bill to abolish the . glut of wage garnishment. but he thougn when claims were made tor small de ts and money MOM-had 'ho mutt should hold e money until all claims were in, and If there wa.- u t unnugu to go around, the wagwearner should come rut. Fur- thermore, he opposed the Drown! prac- tico of permitting imprittontuont for 'dnbt for small sums. A - UBIIC'ru nu av ..-vv-'-._. Aaron Sweet. Co-tttive member for Dundnn. said that he was glad to see that steps were being taken to imxrove the standard of Ontario dairy pro nets. After expressing the hope that Hydro mi ht he erten ed to. Eastern rural Ott- 'ddifl Mr. Sweet touched upon the O.T.A. issue. "I have decided." he said. "to withhold my criticism of that measure until it comes before the Home. I do not want to pile up a lot of ammunition without knowing what I am tirirttr at." He did not agree with everything the Government had done or would do, but he felt that he but not any alternative that would he any better. and he to posed on this vote to stand by the J/7 ernment. Waco Gnrnishmcnt. Frank W. Wilson (Conservative. Wind- sor) devoted most of his speech to a criti- cism of the Ontario Temperance Act. but bofore coming to that portion of his ari- dren made two or three suggestions along other lines ot legislation. He thought the Board of Workmen's Com- ponsntion should tell apYiicants why up. plimtlons were refused amend of mere- ly altering the formal notice of refusal, as the board gave reasons when the memo her took up the.trri..evan'?e. A u , trol they would have obtainedi t last October; Mr. Wilson said i that 40 per cent. of the vote weal; for the unknown rather than the arr; 'which they knew ell about. Fifty-two per, cent. did not vote at all. and Mr. Wilson ' was Confident that most of them were not prohibitioniets. l The falling " in support of the act , "was due to the fact that the principle l lot prohibition was wrong. Mr. Wilson lsaid. The former Atttrner:Gpiierd, pro- 1 lceeded Mr. Wilson, should know as a law oMeer that the act could not be en, forced against public opinion, "unless you] ! gang to have a little revolution on sour; an a." T .' The Wittttto"e member quoted largely from statistics in an endeavor to show that crime but increased in Ontario, and . was greater than in Quebec and other- Provinces. .it was not fair to let the majority rule. in everything, he declared. I "Drink for Poor Min." I Coming to the Ontario Temperance Act. he claimed that the plebiscite showed a falling " in support of the act. He hoped the dtt would soon come when in Ontario moxie got back "on the proper highway." and bad lot-ml option with Government control. "Whether or not my resolution (tovoring Government con- trol) passes at this session. I intend to introduce it at the next," he said. Ray. MIJorlty Didn't Toto. He had not. heard any one say that 4.4 per vent. beer would cure all the ills ot the liquor trttftie, but it would be better than the present act. He scored the evil done to young .people by "Mind pigs." and thought anything that would minimize this should be supported by everybody. Referriug to the criticism ot Mr. Haney that the Premier had been getting' "on and " the water wagon," Mr. , iison claimed it was the public which had been "getting " the water wagon." As to critlvium that people did not know Just exactly what form of Government com (lace. am called drug unn- mve our doctors who menial; of the tons of haveinn _bonegt peep?) He did not take kindly to the idea tbut this beer would be mid on? in dialog- rooml of hotels; he. wanted t u a drink for the poor may. ' . .. - . So far as the Government had erred at all in the direction of the proposed hm the error had been In the direetion of bums too little I,','),',',',' In the now drink, he said. Re a nounced bis inten. tion of surporung the bill. After de ending Mr Adam Beck agglust After defending Sir Adam Beck against criticisms. and declarlnf for a and! to Mop unemrloymem. Wi iiam' G. Weichel (Conserrnt we, North Waterloo) devoted most of his speech to an attack on the Ontario Temperance Act. In connection with unemployment he urged people to bus goods made in Canada. and aid that women should remember they ahonld be sntraiflttd with mnde-in-C'nnada clothes. o.Rprr'lttlly when so many are walking the streets seokimt work. He, bimsel . he added, would ant buy wettritttt ap.pterel thr'h was not made in Canada. "t am satisfied with small mercies." was his summing up of the proposed amendment to the Ontario Temperance Act. Ho said he would .eupport the amendment became he believed it we: a step toward true temperance. He said he wished the mternment, would cut out doetora' prescriptions. He deplored secret drinking, and said that the home today was being debauched in many cave. The mt did not prohibit. "rt is a farm; " in a sham: it simply drives the evil further underground," he declared. "I go to Montreal. and the People seem to wear a sort. of hapgy uni e. I go to tho bowls here. end t ere in a strained look. it ls sad when you mum to think of it," ho said. guild laughter. . - Would AboUuh "Srripts." John Jornt, Comm-"tr" member for North Huron, was the In: speaker of the eroning. Me accrued Ottawa of callous- nose: In Us refusal to Join with Ontario in assisting the Province out of unem- ployment diftitmtltteir, and declared it was time Ottawa called In It: immigra- tion agents In the Old Country. "In" Lower T3301. In a general criticism of the ettortt, of certain organizers to form eo-operative marketing associations. Mr. Joynt poured some severe criticism on the principals of the United Grain Growers, who, he said, got all the benefits in the form of salaries that were. to be obtained from it. and articularly upon Aaron Shapiro, the Calgornia ',it2evrt,t.l',','i expert. who spoke at several Government functions In Toronto during the regime of the Drury Government. Ho Attacks Shspiro. ' Referring to two compel-Hive ventures B1nttted try Mr. Shapiro in Connecticut. Mr. Joynt levelled such harsh terms " "swindle," declaring that a (onto wen-Y ture had fallen Bat, and that Mr. Shapiro, had "roped in" 4.500 farmers in a to-! bactto co-operative venture. in which onel 'oi' the principals behind the orttani"ttoni received a 8',.'.ti,000-vrear 'aalary. and two' or three others 810,000. Mr. Joynt said he knew what he was talking about. be- cause some of these farmers owed him money. . Coming to the question of the {tropoaed , increase in aesaional indemnit es and! Cabinet Mttt1aters' salaries. Mr. Joynt' said that while he agreed with the pro-I posed $2,000 per year increase for the Ministers, he thought the members ought' _to work this year for the present 81300.1 and present the whole of the proposed! 9:600 increase to the unemployed. , I "I don't hear any one applaud than"; said Mr. Joynt. I Mr. Wilson (Winoor)--Perttapgt wt' trNytotAttrord it " yell as you can. . Mr. Joynt thought some etrort ought to be made try the present Government to reduce taxation, and to reduce the cost or edueatiott, which, in the rural not-Mons, was bearing heavily on the farmers. in the same connection he thought there ought to he a general lur- rey of the educational Institutions of the Province, and no more techniral schools built until that survey was nude. The member for North Huron spent considerable time crltlclzlniethe Increase of commission rates on t sale of a earload of cattle from $10 to 827. which he :zsvrlberl to the entry of the U.F.0. into the field at West Toronto. He created considerable amusement in the House hi a description of the U.F.O. oftiees, wit tttt many elerks there, he ma. that they fell over each other. If he were gettlng as much money as J. J. Morrison, he said. ttwould go down there and yell Lor half. \u-IuvL aunt" so no "Cu I!" JV" (all. . Sneaking UR?!) the proposed OKLA. amendments, * r. Joynt accused a To- ronto newspaper of going to . prominent Liberal in his riding to secure names of Conservative "dries" from whom to get ttttti-Government interviews. To news- paper queries as to what he Intended to do, coming from a dry riding, Mr. Joynt said that his answer was that he had overwhelming faith in Athorney-Genersl Nickle, whose name, " s leader,' he link- ed with Martin Luther. John Knox. John Wesley. Sir John A. Macdonsld, Sir Wil- frid Laurier and others. Cues Nothing About Future. "I care nothing about my political m. ture," he said, " ut I do care something about my Intagltyxnd what I believe to be right. ow can t support the

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