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He knew, he said, of two different cases of mining companiecs served by the Great Lakes Power Company whichn should be considered with regard to this particular point. "One power In>." said he, "was cxtended 40 miles to the Goodreau Gold Mine, which didn't use the power more than 30 days when it failed, and there has been no renewed effort.' Th_e cost of that line was $130,-- 000. The Great Lakes Power Company . tock all the responsibility. If that Lad been a municipality, it might have been a sericus matter." Mr. Lycns first touched on Mydro matters by dencuncing the reports that! the pecple of Northern Ontario were anti--Hydro. "The psople of the North country," said he, "are in sympathy with Hydro and strongly support this Government in the develcping of water powers by the Hydro Commission." _ "Have. the people of the Sault changed their minds?" Hon. H. C. Nixon (Progressive, Brant» interjacted. "I'm glad you mentioued that," Mr. Lyons retorted. S te POWER DEVELOPMENT IN NORTHERN AREAS QUERIED BY LYONS Thinks Paper Mills and Mines Might Finance Own Electricity He emphasized that there was an in-- teresting phase of the Government ex-- tonsion of electric power to mining companies. "If," he said, "Hydro de-- velops power for a mining company and carries it 30 or 40 miles, some-- brdy must be responsible for it."" And he believed that under the existing laws the responsibility fell on som-- municipality traversed by the linecs, and if the mining company ceased to op-- crate, that municipality would be shouldered with the power load. Cites Instance. DEFENDS VOTERS AT 'Ss0O0' _ "Well, tell us all about it," Nixon shot back. "I question," said he, "just how far a Government really ought to go in the develcpment of water power in Northern Ontario for the purpose of supplying paper mills or large mines with electric energy. They are larg® institutions and the Province gives them power at cost, and financees thos» Institutions by developing powor for them. I question whether the Prov-- ince is justifiecd in going to that ex-- tent." Those strong. power{ful organiza-- tions, he felt, should well be able to finance their own power developmeont. The wisdom o¢f the Forguson Gov-- ernment developing watcr powers in Northern Ontario for the purpose of supplying paper mills and large mines with electric energy, was questioned in the Logislature yesterday afternoon by Hon. James Lyons, Conservative mem-- bor from Sault Ste. Maric. and former Cabinet Minister of that Government. And not only did Mr. Lyons sprin= a surprise on the Houss by taking this stand, but he also defended, at length. the action of the voters of Sault Ste. Marie who turned down the Hydrc Commission for the Great Lakes Power Company. Mr. Lyons made it clear that he was no enemy of Hydro. He declared him-- self to be an ardont supporter, but hs wanted to teli the House, franlkly, his person2} views of certain affairs in-- volving power developments. Able to Finance Own Power. (ddy-- Le brit Pry-- 4574 Mr. "A grest Geal Grea' Ta'tes Pow "is held hy Cons "Mr. Insut'! is can "A great deal of the stock of the Grea' Lo':es Power Comprany." he said. "is held by Cansadians. And so far as Mr. Insw'I is conrerned he is a British sub'ect. He wsas born in London. En«-- lond. ond cam» to the States vears ago. I met him en'y once,. but on that occa-- sion he said that he vwas a Brit'ish sub-- iect still, and thst a British subject he intended to remain. And so far as this great ecrooration is conrerned. vou are dealing with vour own fiesh and blood. for he is still a Bvitish subject." have tied themse!ves to a great ican corporation." "You people down here," Mr. Lyons declared. "are in a hanppy position. Hydro is a good thing for you, and you can make a good thing out of it." Then he referred again to the power figcht at the Sault. and obiected to the "insinvatiors that the Sault npeople Mr. Lyons emphasized that the peo-- ple of the North country were in a dit-- ferent position from those in Old On-- tario, when it cam> to Hydro matters. In the newer sections of the Provinces there were not the closely related mu-- nicipaliies to shoulder the burdens and make pcessible developments as were irm'.nd in the old sections of the Prov-- nce rates ons could see that it was 2d-- ventageous to the city to take the Great Lakes offer and not be ob'jeat~d. Morenver, he satd. the Great Ta'kes Power Commany paid the citv £50.00Nn a vear in tarm~*s, 2nd the city uaid the ramnany on'v $61,0090 a yvear in power roies. A'ss. neovle of the Sg&ult thousht that the Hydro might take away from the Gr--at Takes Power Comneny the nower 1%& bed. and that the ritr would loss that $30 °00 revenne. and that this was porlmns the ontst>onding reason for the vote assainst Hydro. Differences in North. That power company. he said, offered to continue to supply the city wilh 4,000 horsepower at $22, and sdditional horsepower at $20. Thne FEydro would supply power at $17.16. But this Hydro offer, he said, was on the basis of 10,000 second cubic feet developed, or approximately 12,000 horsepower: and the city would be obliged to take thas for 40 years, and pay contingmousiv for the full asmount of 12,000 horsepower at the $17.16 rate. The city, h sointed out. reauired only 3.500 horsepower in continuous service at any tims,. and so when the coast of this at the Great Lakes rate was compvared with the cost of the 12.000 horsepower at the Hydro "And I think," said Mr. Lyons. "that th» proposition of the Great Lakes Power Company was the most advan-- tageous for the Sault, and this was proved by the vote." He went cont to say that he thought h2 could convince the House that the voters of the Sault had taken a logical position in what was termed the »ower fight there. And so he reviewed the development of electric energy at the Sault from the days when the <town went bankiupt" trying to carry on the initial development, up to the pres>nt. And in the recent power fight the auss-- ticn centred on the possible develop-- ment of 100,000 second cubic fect. Favors Great Lakes Offer. And so Mr. Lyons did. #The situ-- ation," said he, "wasn't that the peo-- ple of the Sault were trying to oppose Hydro. Scores of people voted for Hydro because they were loyal to Hydro, though they knew the other proposition olfered them was a better one." "And,." Mr. Lyons continued. "if the Government wants to develop water pewers it will get the supuort of the pesple of Sault Ste. Marie." Mr. Lyon Explains. "HMa, ha, ha," an Opposition member laughed derisively. at Ta'kes £50.N0n a naid the in power power to the people Amer--