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!Sm Farm Speculators. |__PFP. G. Sandy (Progressive, South Vic--| toria) recalled the Progressive Party's| tour of Northern Ontario last year.} One vivid impression he had broughti home from that trip was the need for | adoption by the Government--if it was| to make a success of its transfer to| settlers from the Haliburton wastes to' the clay belt of the North--of more | modern farming methods than were' He recalled that Sir George Foster had attributed the prosperity in the United States in a large measure to the . prohibition law. Then he quoted re-- ports of the Presbyterian Church in Canada and the United Church of Can-- ada at their 1928 Assemblies which had pictured the evil effects of Government sale of liquor. Moreover. a friend of G He conlinued with his remarks on the liquor situation, and quoted from re-- ports to show that jails, prisons and reformatories had been filled because of Government sale of liquor. More-- over, aid he, the liquor sale affected the commercial welfare of the Prov-- ince. A grocer, a friend of his, had told him that the week after the L.C.A. had come into force his business had dropped off $75 and that the average had never increased. Mr. Sandy went on to show how the liquor interests were flourishing in On-- tario. If, said he, those who sponsored the LCA. had frankly admitted that they were going into the liquor busi-- ness, and were going to boost the liquor interests, they might have had his respect. But, he declared. they had hailed the LC.A. as a "temperance measure," which it certainly was not. He recalled that Mr. Ferguson had recently said to Mr. Sniclair in the House: "Tell us frankly, don't you think you have a pretty good Govern-- ment?" L,C.A. The Government had promised, when it brought in its control act, to drive the bootleggers out of the coun-- try, "But the homebrewers and the bootleggers are still with us," said Mr. Sandy. Mr. Ferguson pointed out that home-- brew permits came from Ottaewa. On the liquor question, Mr. Sandy again backed the O.T.A. against the On the subject of Hydro develop-- ment, Mr. Sandy maintained that the House should face the fact of rural and urban differences. True, there was & 50 per cent. bonus for rural distri-- bution, but that had been made to equalize the situation. "And if," said he, '"after the 50 per cent. is given, the rural population pays twice as much, a large amount should be given. In fact." he added. "we had a resolu-- tion for 80 per cent. which was never discussed in this House." Bootleggers Still Active. In reviving what he termed "the old question of farm economics," Mr. Sandy asked if it would not be adyvisable to place some of the people who were being transferred to the North on some of the farms in Southern Ontario that could be purchased for a song. Hs disagreed with Mr. Lyons that industries should be bonused at the expense of the farmers. being used at the present time. Mr. Sandy wondered if it were not neces-- sary to "break" certain sections of land for the settlers, and to put in drain-- age. Another thing he advised the Government to do in this settling of the North was tell people who were holding property solely for speculation to 'wet out and stay out." _ Mr. Sandy--It's just a matter of giv-- ing the farmer a fairly equal rate. This matter of a bonus is not a bonus at all. M C Cl ie ie mrprmme mmA gpinton s ----sa----=---- 4| L CA, ha'lf that time before he judge it. Mr. Sandy--It's just a matter of giv-- | The memrber from South Victoria made ing the farmer a fairly equal rate. This | it plain that he objected to any sale of matter of a bonus is not a bonus at (liquor for beverago purposes, and all. | thought that it should be treated as a The South Victoria member argued . drug. He referred to the liquor sale strongly that the department should as "a parasite on the business and give the people soms lead on agri-- ; morals of the country." cultural questions He spoke of hog--| P. W. Pearson (Progressive, North grading. and the "packing industry .. Victoria) took the Government to task combine," contending that the depart--> on the liquor situation. Backing up ment should lead action against the: his statements by figures culled from combine. Revolutionary things, he: financial publications and Government stated. were being done in both Aus--) reports, he showed how the liquor busi-- tralia and the Uniled Sctates. Onilario| ness burst into mushroom growth under could, he belicved, do something just! the LC.A,. Nineteen millions of dollars as easily. * . had been invested in breweries ana dis-- On the subject of Hydro develop-- tilleries suddenly. In 1926 there were ment, Mr. Sandy maintained that the| twoenty--four breweries in Ontario. then House should face the fact of rural . not so long afterward,. under the LC.A., The South Victoria member argued strongly that the department should give the people soms lead on agri-- cultural questions He spoke of hog-- grading. and the '"packing industry combine," contending that the depart-- ment should lead action against the combine. Revolutionary things, he stated. were being done in both Aus-- tralia and the Uniicd States. Oniario ----Mr. Lyons--Do you approve of the| people of the Province bonusing rural Hyuro mmes? -- . : | + Mr. Sandy--I don't admit that we are being bonused. _ éE is _--Mr. Lyons--That doesn't make it any the less effective. :('da}// ffibfi'/&/'/d # | _ Mr. Pearson claimed that the jails | were beco'ning "jammed to the doors"" 'under the act. He claimed that the Government had to find some way of punishing offenders without taking from their families the earning power _of vhe former. "If the Government is bound to sell them liquor," he stressed, "it will have to find some way of caring (nr them." + ¥ \ J. G. Taylor, Progressive member for | Mr. Pearson offered the Prims Min-- ister three suggestions for improvement in the administration and enforesnent of the Liquor Control Act: He said that the Legislature should pass a reso-- lution calling on the Dominion Govern-- ment to refuse clearance papers to all liquors on export "to a friendly country under prohibitive law." He said that the Ontario Government should imme-- diately test in the courts the question of whether it or the Federal Government had control over manufacture of liquor. He said that the liquor stores should | stop selling to bootleggers. 4 He emphasized that the production of whiskey and beer and the importa-- tion of wines had doubled, and yet the L,C.A. was supposed to be a temperance measure. And, said he of the Govern-- ment: "They find that the women are drinking too much punch and strong liquor, so they take the tax off wine and sell it in smaller quantities. You will see the sale of wine increased in tremendous quantities." How, said he, did the sale of liquor affect the pocketbooks of the people of the Province? Well, he could tell how hbe was affected. The insurance rates on his automobile had been raised from $17 to $29, And why? At least some authorities stated that the automobile insurance companies were raising their rates because of increased crashes on the highways and this could ke &t-- tributed to the drinking of liquor. There were, said he, a triumvirats of rejoicers under the L.C.A.. and thes: were in order of their rejoicing the brewer, the distiller and the retail boot-- legger. Why Rates Are Raised. "And," he added, and arew laughter from his fellow--Liberals, "I see by the report ofi the Commission that it be-- lieves the thirty--seven will be sufficient to supply our needs." this had increased to thirty--three. In all Canada there was only an increase of ten breweries, and nine of these were in this Province. And now the number has grown to thirty--seven. "Thinks 3% Sufficient." Ard another friend of his who lived on the Hamilton Highway, and who had occasion many times to assist people in automobile accidents, had told him that he had smelt liquor off 90 per cont. of those people. H> referred to the Brien affair at Kitchener and said: "I can't see why th»e Attorney--Goneral just gives his views. The fair thing would be to have an in-- vostigatien where the man accused can defond himself." Liqueor a Prug. his in the Saivation Army had told him | that since the L.C.A. had come into | effect the Army "was having to deal with a better class of young people who | wouldn't go into the dives in other days." | Ninety Per Cent. Liquor Breaths. Mr. Ferguson suggested that Mr. Sandy, who had referred to the O.T.A. whicn opsrated for ten years; give the Mr. -- Favors Lower Power. 'North Grey, thought the Prime Minis-- |ter had taken the proper step in re-- scinding the banquet wine permit grant-- ed to the Boston Artillerymen by the « Liquor Board Chairman. But the Pre-- . mier had said he would interfere again under similar circumstances--a sugges-- tion, claimed Mr. Taylor, that further ; interference would be necessary. "If a ' board paid $40,000 a year," he said, \'"isn't capable of administering the act ' they should be asked for their resig-- | nations, and the Government should | put people in their places who could ! run it without getting the Government ' into difficuities." Mr. Taylor criticized the Government for its taxation of motorists and its methods of collecting the gas tax. He bhazarded the opinion that costs of collecting the amusement tax were not as great as of those connected with "getting in" the gas revenuc. Mr. Taylor referred at some length to the Bruce County power situation. Being a consumer of Foshay power, he had some knowledge of what he was talking about. Bruce people were Hydro at heart, he stated, but in certain sec-- tions of the county advantage had becif taken of peculiar local conditions. Hydro, he claimed, was not especialiy anxious for development of small--scale powers. such as the Foshay people hac undertaken. Right now, he said. the Foshay interests were developing plans which, when completed, would mean that an area would be served with power that Hydro would not have been able to serve in twenty--five years. Mr. Taylor favored delivery of power on a fiat ratc, or, at least, at a substantiallh lowered figure. Mr. Taylor concluded 1i p.m.. and the House his address at then rose.