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this. took no the topic of immigration. He referred extensively to The Globe. and then to other newspapers. to show ,how the Ottawa Government we. be.. ium berated on its immigration policy. Mr. Ban. attacking the Liberals in the Onoosltion. also took in the Ottawa Government for some censure. He went for a moment or so into . mm sneech. tnd tngn. .lttiv.intrftmmttret from What. generally speaking. was a drag- " day of the most dragging type was enlivened considerably in the late hours of the sitting by the racetiousness of Mr. Mitchel. who heaved criticism at the Government with the greatest abandon. and took his punishment in return with a smiling face and a genial- ity that got him a good hand from the House ail-round. when he said that he had talked enough. and everybody war, tired, and everybody was. and it was time tn go home. so rvcr.v'ociy did. J. W. Widditield. Pt'ngreurive Whip, adjourned the debate {or T. K. Slack (Progressive. Dufferin). who will go on first thing tomorrow. reiteration ci the views of the other Conservative speakers in the debate. He. too, eulogized the mover and seconder of the address, Premier Ferguson and the Conservative Party in general. For the Opposition members who had bom- barded the Government on the liquor situation he replied with the standard Tory argument on what a ti e act the L.C.A. really was. And theiShe enter- tained his hearers with a bit of whimsy. He recalled the morning of , 2, 1926. " can well remember it." id he, "for the people were stepping out live- ly, their countenances were bright. and it seemed that a great cloud had been lifted oft their shoulders." Hurrah for the good new Liquor Control Act. which changed the sadness to gladness. was his feeling. and hurrah for the Con- sen/ative Government which brought in this beneficial measure. and also many other fine pieces of legislation. The Opposition. said he. had referred to the prohibition law in the States. He wanted to remind them of the recent shooting in_the Chicago bootleggers' feud. He was proud of the Ferguson od- ministration of the ttngtnces ot the Prov- ince. and believed that, so long as the Tories were in power. there would never be another deficit. And he land a. word tor Liberal Leader Sinclair: 'at." said he, "the honorable member has to wait tor a. deficit trom the Conservative Party. he'll be ttuttWied in one direc- tian for the Cid-Age Pensions Act." bat in order named yesterday. There were no home runs: in tact. little that looked anything like a hit. It was the old, old story redone. with Conserva- tive members patting the Gdemmcnt from every conceivable angle. and with Opposition spca'rrors loosing a punch at Mr. Frrgus'vn's administra- tion where and tvittvntvrtw opportunity ofiered. Government and Opposition Members Exchange Verbal Buffets The end is in sight. With five speakers-tco Government, two Liberal and one Progressive-add.. ing their argument to what has gone before, the point was reached in Log- isllture proceedings last night where it is now safe to predict a wind-up, for some time tomorrow of the debate on the Address in reply to the Spscvh from the Throne. LIQUOR LAW UNDER FIRE H. H. Ball (Cctnsrrvativp. F.glir,tntrs, E. Blake Miller tLiberal, East Elgim, Christopher Gardiner (Progressive, list Kent). W. G. Martin thmscrva- tive, Brantford). and J. H. Mitchell (Libqral. $outhwcst Simcoe', went to WIND'UP OF DEBATE IN ONTARIO HOUSE LIKELY TOMORROW All: Ball's address was in chief LineSJva i At some length he dilated on the :manufacture of whiskey blanc. 3 "Be careful," reminded Premier Fer- I'guson. "some one may think you are ian expert distiller." I EJnst Like Alcohol. I E. Blake Miller (Liberal. East Elgim laid down a barrage of criticism of Government policy and Government. activity. Conservative speakers who had talked "tariff" during the past week were. he contended, simply "beating the air." The Prime Minister's speech. he said.had been "tt masterly effort of distor- tion and misrepresentation." For the benefit of those who were inclined to View the Prime Minister as "some one- man Government" he recalled Mose-6's command to the Israelites of "Thou shalt not worzhip (else gods." - Thit. in effect, he said, was what the Premier was asking of the public of Ontario. Mr. Miller attacked the Government syrtem of road building, citing a case nrar Aylmcr. where the Department of Highways had removed work done by the Drury Administration and then had had to put it all back at three times the cost of what would have accrued had it been handled only by the Drury Administration. He refe red to the con- f1leilvg division of aufhority between the Dominion and Provincial Govern- montr. over lake Erie commercial fish.. ing. 9nd claimed that while Ontario h?" ihvally extended the t1sshing li- mmc; las. fall. it had only done so v "ion forced to do r.o---ttv,othrr examole. iv donned. of flouting the Federal an- ?'nrritic: as long as newbie at the bv.- D'.'PS'?, directly. of the fythertnen. On mptters of Provincial Savings Bank in- terest 9nd apolication of commercial irrck "mum: he also attacked the Per- mron Ministry. Farmers' Problems Mum'sx Just before concluding. Mr. Ball talked on Hydro affairs. His view was that, even if Opposition members who had criticized the Hydro rates charged farmers. were given a Hydro bill drafted to satisfy them, that they would "tty away" from it. "For." said he, "they mmt have some stock in trade. and be able to tell thc farmers that they are suffering under a grievance." "Beating the Air." "What would you thin!: o" " I'M- tor," asked Mr. Miller. amid the laughter ot Opposition bu).f;.. s. ". .0 some his patient corrosive s;uislimate, and said: 'Now we'll give it tive years' trial before we can in the stomach pump?) n He pictured the suttertntt of the Welsh miners and pnvauom in some of the mining areas in England. And he suggested that Canada might do much to offset such privations by bring- ing in Old Countrymen and training them in agriculture on the "demonstra- tion farms" here. From the East Elgin member there came a vigorous defense of the farmer mm his present-day problems-dime) tier, which. he said. were greater than ever before. and which were depopu- Iating the farms at a terrific rate. One of the causes,of this depopulation was. he said, the \centralization of govern- ment in Toronto; another, the fixed standards of taxation imposed by that government on the farmer. and which inevitably would "drive him from the land." "You bet it wiii,"Gdid%GiirGov- ernment bencher. The East Elgin member submitted that the Premier and his Government had asked a several years' trial for the new net. Well, said he, there would be no three years. or one year. The verdict weld come pt the next election. Should Train lmmigra nts. had one common characteristic with alcohol. namely, that "it made men drunk and qualified them for the police courts." From an American magazine article he ouoted the assertion that prohibition in the United States had raised the servant girl from a "tippler" to a. per. son of social account. He quoted the remarks of a Montreal ottieitt1 that per- ' sons caught in a drinking dive should be placed in the same category as per- sons Arrested in a house of ill-fame. He said that the Ontario Liquor Board, by substituting "whiskey bianc" tor grain olcohol. had brought itself downt to the selling level ot the common boot lesser. Mr, Miller paid that the Government! annearod afraid of what might b! said about the Liquor Control Act. "Well."' he dean-ed. "he would have his say, anyway." -- _ Mr. Miller submitted that while it looked different and tasted different: {Imp what he had hegrd, whiskey blanc Jot. - 2474. Mr. Gardiner went on to criticize the Government sale of liquor. tanning it "a false , ay of getting rich." declar- ing that the sale ct liquor carried in its wake "crime. debaucnery. starvation. misery." and that it had a disturbing influence on the sanctity ot home life. Then he referred to the Toronto Cen- tral Conservative episode and the solicit- ing ot funds from liquor interests. - ers." would be a good thing to have an edu- cational campaign and make thisrelear." "Well," said he tCrnornent later, "we know where the Premier stands. now that he has solicited funds from brew- Mr. Ferguson immediately protested. " hope," said he. "that the honorable member will not let his tongue run away with his good judgment. He must with- draw that statement." You couldn't fairly compare the ram of private companies and Hydro. said Mr. Cooke, bacause the private com- pany's offer INS on the basis that y. would retain power for all time. but the Hydro was based on the princmic that the municipality having the owner- ship It,, the tryiytt ll, 20-year period. "Apparently 'it's needed," Premier Ferguson interjeeted.. i Mr. Gardiner regretted the use of the ; word bonds. He was. he said. referring _,' to the contracts system. An urban mu- l nicipality could make a contract tor sail the peonie therein. and yet farmers thad to sign individual 20-yettr con- l tracts. "Well," said Mr. Gardiner. "(he Hydro Commission should put on some campaign ttr. show the man where he stands." He noted that private power companies did not ask contracts such as the Hydro required. Tenant or Dimer? "And I'll tell you why." said Mr. Cooke. "It is because of the fact that there is so much agitation against this, question and doubt created in tho farmer's mind that he is signing some- thing that will be detrimental to his propetty." Mr. Gardiner pointed out that farm ers were complaining about the differ once between the rural and urban situ ations. "The-arst thing you do is to make a contact With the township." said My. Cooke. Hon. J. R. Cooke, hydro Minister. ob- served that the Hydro Commission makes every dollar of investment necessary, and what it asks is not a bond. but that the individual return one-half ot the investment made over a 20-year period. "Our experience." he said. "proves that the farm that has not a Hydro Contract ot 20 years is not as saleable as the one that has." " am not quarrelling with the Syli- tern." said Mr. Gardiner. "but I cannot see why contracts cannot be made with townships." He thought that there should b-s ,omo legislation "so that townships could guarantee bonds as well as municipali- 0". " Mr. Gardiner, opening his address. pressed on the Government the impor- tance ot trade expansion. He suggested that the farmers needed more trade concessions With the Mother Country. He believed that In the hog industry the farmers or Ontario could double the output of hogs in two years if they were guaranteed markets. He advocatod that the Government establish a "roal live organization." a branch of the Ag- riCulturai Department. "to do nothing but look for markets and advertiar tho products of Ontario farms. Mr. Gardi- ner suggested that the Government WOUid be Justified in taking the initi. ative in co-operatire marketing. And particularly it should do something to- ward establishing a bean pool for the farmers of Western Ontario. Mr. Ferguson pointed out that the municipalities do not issue bonds. "And,")e said. "you can make con- tracts with township municipalities to- day." "' g Makes Farm More Continuing. the: the dinnér adjourn- ment, Mr. Gardiner spoke first. on Hy- dro affairs. He wished it to be clearly tintiet'3ttttyd that he was not anti-Hydro, but he wanted to sav something about the tural Hydro situation ties. On the nutter of Immigration. Mr. Miller contended that the Governments --both Provinciol om! Ptderai---shouid not subsidize immigration as to boat possum, cottage accommodation. ete., but should charge all immigrants. ex- nepting those from the British Empire, for the privilege of living in so advan- tageous , country as Canada. Better Farm Marketing. "wyl," sakfifr. 7iiFip)'i7uiriii'r-it lemme.