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___Mr. Miller--I said yesterday that l promises were made in 1926. Government members--Order, order. | _ Mr. Miller--I said that and T'll stand by thac. The Speaker--I rule you out of order. Mr. Sinclair--I appeal the ruling of the Chair. ' So the vote was taken. As Mr. Miller went on to speak about !' Rondeau Park, Colone]l John A. Currie : (Conservative, Toronto--St. Patrick), in-- | terrupted with: "You're out of order, ' You're not spesking to the Speaker." ! P°°CRRAROCAD VECIC INOUCT 111 .1:1-'-0' 5 A'lthou h RC d P k tw . t Government members--Order, order. gh Rondeau Park is not in his [ UNMY Miller--I said that and T'll stand electoral district at all, Mr. Calder felt by thac. inclined to call the House's attention The Speaker--I ruie you out of order. to its natural beauties, and its possi-- Mr. Sinclair--I appeal the ruling of bilities for conversion into one of the | the Chair. , scenic attractions of all Ontario. This ' So the vote was taken. | park, stated Mr. Calder, can boast of | _ As Mr. Miller went on to speak about 227 varieties of wild birds, including 26 | Rondeau Park, Colon=l John A. Currie varieties of ducks and 25 different ' (Conservative, Toronto--St. Patrick), in-- kinds of wading fowl; a great herd of ' terrupted with: "You're out of order. deer that had to be thinned out cson-- | You're not speskinz to the Speaker." siderably and enclosed if the young _ Mr. Miller--The honorable member pine shoots and other vegetation were is out of order himself in addressing to survive, and 28 varieties of hard-- | me instcad of the Speakor. (Laughter),, woods, many of which were now ' And further, he didna't know what hei obsolets in most sections of the was talking about. Dominion. Colonel Currie--Who didn't know? § New plant life should be introduced, Mr. Miller--I was addressing the% _ _ said Mr. Calder, and extra precautions Speaker taken to protect the present timbver Mr. Miller stated that in his state-% stands. A bird sanctuary such as Mr. ments about Rondcau and Long Point Ll"inla'ysor'x inti'm_a'ted was within the Answers Ailtacks. Just before the orders of the day were called Mr. Finlayson drew the at-- tention of the House to a report of fiawner's remarks on the Long Poinv d. He was "sorry" that the mombcr for East Elgin had brought up this matter "in such an extravagant {fash-- ion." Information on the cosus, said he, was contained in the Public Accounts for two years, and also in the Orders-- in--Council and the Treasury orders. He explained that the Province owned aver 400 acres at Long Point, which was ¥aluable property, and which could be extended by reclaiming marsh land. ¥ears ago the Legislature had appoint-- d a Commission to administer this »woperty, said he, but no work was done, Mr. Finlayson continued to say that he had inspected the property, and an attempt at the reconstitution of the Commission, books and records was made. But it was found that the land was of no public use unless a road was put in. So the road was constructed during two years at a cost of $35,735. The Public Accounts of 1927, said he. showed $17.000 of this; the Public Ac-- counts of 1928, $18.000, and since then some $800 brought it up to date. Al-- ready, said he. applications hbhad been made for 200 lots of the property, "so the cost will soon be paid for." He wanted to emphasize that no Northern On:'arlo Development monsy had been used. and when an attempt was made to go over the books "it was found that the whole matter was in an irregular way." He hoped that in the future when Opposition meombers could not find in-- formation they wanted they ask the Governmont. who would be glad to sup-- ply it, and thus "save extravagant and absurd statements" in the House. Hunters' "Hides." Next referring to Mr. Miller's state-- ment about charges for hunting "hides" at Rondeau Park, the Minister declared that this was an old matter. He explained how the Government leased property to people for cottage sites, and that no park official had anything to do with any charges for "hides." ifi there were any charges, said he, they wore made by the owners of the hides. The Minister also told the House that Park --Superintendent Carman -- had reécommended that Rondeau be turned into a bird sanctuary, and that this was under consideration. "I am extremely sorry," Mr. Finlay-- son concluded, "that there has been an attempt to bring in this interesting property on Lake Erie as a political matter." * he advocated "equal rights for all _ _ bounds of possibility, and would be in-- people." valuable, he felt, to the farmers of the The Speaker--You are interjecting a new matter into this. Mr. Miller--So far as my statements regards Long Point are concerned they were substantially correct. I did not state that the road was paid for out of the Northern Development Fund. The question I raised was that the building of the road was used for political pur-- poses in the campaign of 1926 to in-- duce votes to elect the Minister of Ag-- riculture. Promises were made on the hustings and I may say that I under-- stand that the Prime Minister by a letter---- Ruled Out of Order. Bpeaker Black--The honorable mem-- b;}'s cannot interject a new mattor into this. Mr. Miller -- Whether the Minister rmmade a survey after the promises were made or not I do not know, but---- The Speaker--Take your seat. You are interjecting a new matter. It can-- not be allowed. Mr. Miller--No more than the Min-- t in the absence of Hon. G. reuson, was called to order '777 u/'b'/gfi %&/--C% /f/f{-' Mr. Finlayson explained that Ron-- deau was a Provincial Park, and that 'Long Point was under a comnmussion. "Look at the Statutes," he told Mr. | Miller. Pss | 1W papu on s i c id ce 1 c ie uce c c e e c s m .6 \__"I'm looking at conditions," said the | East Elgin member. "My statements | are substantially correct." \__"If the member's statements are sub-- stantially correct," said Mr. Finlayson, ! "then why did you say $100,000 was spent for the road?" "I didn't say $100,000," Mr. Miller re-- | torted. | Leslie W. Oke (Progressive, East \Lembton),. ros»> to sprak. seX d \ Hon. Finlay C. Macdiarmid (Conser-- \ vative, West Elgin) added a word or 'two to clarify the situation. _ He ¢x-- | plained that while Rondeau Park was | the south shore of Rondeau Bay, _pe_*ople' 'Mr. Fin'la.yvs'(')\n stnladdressod Mr. Mil-- I+r with "Why didn't you look in the Public Accounts?" e 1. S £ UV NV 133 34 114 "That's none of his business," Sald Mr. Miller of the Minister. _ s The Speaker again ruled Mr. Miller cut of ordor, observing that Mr. Oke had the floor. Who Owns the Land? Mr. Sinclair again protested. _ Bui Mr. Oke was given the floor. He just wanted to ask Mr. Finlayson if owncrs of cottages at Rondeau Park bought the land from the department? e 4 "NMo," saizlm the Minister. | "It is leased." l cnk o on the north and east shores claimed vested rights in shcooting privileges en those north and east shores. He knew of the purchase of a farm there and the establishment of shooting hides. The north and east shores he pictured as a commercial proposition. Mr. Sinclair then told the House: "This incident shows the supreme effort that is necessary to pry information; from the Government." He found in one year's Public Accounts that ex-- penditures on the Long Point road went through under & special _ warrant, whereas he claimed it should have been dealt with in the estimates. Hon. George S. Henry deemed Mr. Sinclair's remarks "very characteristic." The Public Accounts, said he, were never as deSnite and clear as at pres-- ent, and the use of Treasury warrants for special purposes was well establish-- ed CV. "And." he added, "I may say to the honorable member from East --Elgin that the $30,000 is considerably differ-- ent from the item he used." "Mr. Speaker, I aidn't--" Mr. Miller began. But the Speaker ruled him out of order again, and the House went on to éutine business. "And I intend to give the Govern-- ment no rest," warned Mr. Calder, "un-- til some adequate appropriation for the purpose in view is set aside." From A. C. Calder, Conservative member for West Kent, the Ontario Legislature yesterday heard a strong plea for Government aid sufficient to make of Rondeau Provincial Park, in' Kent County, "the place beautiful" in the eyes of the people of that part of the Provinxe. Adequate Appropriation for Park Sought by Calder PLEADS KENT MP P VERY LATE STTNC OF HOUSE ToNiCHT T0 SPEED SESSION y the Federal authorities. sc* Uis Logislature. He criticized the "~<gvor Control Act" criticism of Chris-- izpher -- Gardiner (Progressive. East *Aent). drag?mg ths House's atteition to tha fact that while Mr. Gardiner has Psn aessziling the Ferguson Adminis-- t~ation for its "control" policy, he had nat said a word to the House about a cistiery losating on the outskirts of Ghathaem in his ridimg. or about .the «renting of a liconss" to this dl;tdlery Lir. Calder criticized the Dominion Government at Ottawa for its failurc to give financial aid to the Chatham Winter Fair, with the result that the sltow has been temporarily abandoned. 'I'wice, he said, the Ontario Government had offered to grant $25,000 to this fair, irit on both occasions Ottawa had said, "We've got too many appeals of this kind," and had done wothing. On the question of the Liquor Con-- trol Act, Mr. Calder claimed that it bshooved every one, irrespective of narty, to spcak with sincerity on the matter. Hoe referred to the statemm}nt o"° William Newman (Liberal, Nort Victoria) that the country would ngt b3s frese of the booze Lraffigtmt.' t': breweries and the distillericstUhafi gone, r"=d is maintainsd that Ottawa was the ¢*+s* for My. Newman's statoment. and LIQUOR SITUATION ARGUED Somstime tonight the Budget debats will draw to a close, the House will <ivide and, contrary to the usual cus-- tom, will immediately give considera-- tion to the supplementary estimates which were tabled more than two wetks ago. Hon. Gcorge S. Henry, rho is leading the Government in the ab-- semce of Premicr Ferguson, is prepar-- cd--as he informed the members yes-- terday afternoon--to push the sitting well past the usual 11 o'clock hour of adjournment in order that the business of the session may be expedited. A 1--or--2--o0'clock--in--the--morning sitting is well within the bounds of possibility, Criticizing, Condoning. A. C. Calder ' (Conservative, 'West Kent), and W. A. Anderson (Liberal, Peterborough County), were the only Ltwo debate spsakers yesterday. Mr. Calder vigorously assailed the Opposi-- tion policy of criticizing the Oniario Government for getting revenue irom sz2les under the Liquor Control Act, and at the same tims condoning, by their stony silencs on the point, the Federal Government's acquisition of money through excise and gallonage imposts on spirits. Mr. Anderson scored vari-- ous Hnes of Government activity, and by so doing crossed swords with cif-- icrent members on the Government side of the House. One of his numer-- ous protests was launched against cer-- tain people's practice of using the Legislature as a promotion place ior propaganda against the 18th Amend-- ment. t s Rjad fallen, that the farmer is much more to be congratulated than pitied. tine thing he thought the Government misht do in extending the development cnd promoting the welfare of the (A.C. would be to pay the travelling ~=ponses of those students who came "zxom remote sections of Ontario to at-- "*nd the institution. *"o Aid to Chatham Fair. The Ontario Legislature will swing Into the home stretch of the present session tomorrow. immediate Consideration to Be Given Supplementaries After Division Leslie W. Oke (U.F.O., aEst Lamb-- ton), ardjourned the debate, and will continue first thing tomorrow after-- ncon. Mr. Caldor referred to the visit of lie Legislature to the Ontario Agricul-- i'tv2l College, Guelph, stating that one c< ths most wonderful things he had ----cn thore was the confidence and the conlent reflected in the faces of the voung students. It made him feel}, in "wite of Opposition wailing about farm-- s and the "evil days'" into }vhich it