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| e s ~ *A No -- | ' ¥ 3P . Gavth s | you v-h'lg about the St. Lawrence?" § asked Mr. Sinclair. M&J"A» 1k > fll::ne Court Reference. * % f . Henry referred to refer-- w cacigne :hn:ess made a couple of ":nhf ago to '! The Niagara Situation. s K 'mme Court by the Dmmion 1 "Awn' the member a-ttefn ts to 1 : Government on the St. Lawrence 41051 | oi i Sopibotign s Commussion's . Pfl?'f::shcgt'zltm"u' | Td bee ed that those references |actions in connection with the GAti-- | pnogig at state with all the em-- | cout a n _so wordgd that no decisions | neau contract, saying, with reference | Df a?}f at my command that the work | (h possiby be handed down on |to 1930;: 'To control a factitious of the co--operating Hydro munici-- em. -- He further contended that the ||Scarity, we go into the market and | Palities as teflected in Lhelr 'erteak Ontario Government had not been |Conclude a contract with Gatineau for Hydro--electric undertaking, was con-- allowed to submit a reference: that, |250,000 horsepower; as a result, we | ceived on non--political lines. Its first _ #s a matter of fact, Ontarlo wasn't find that Niagara is crippled. We use | Chairman and great leader, Sir Adam fho"'n the Dominion's references un-- less than one--half the availatkle ca-- | Beck, used every resource at his com-- "n the day before they wont to th© pacity of this contract. At the same mand to keep it isolated from political Supreme Court. time we pay for it whether we use it °/ intrigue, and I believe that the mu-- "All I have to sav," put in Mr. Sin-- or not.' If he had consulted the Com-- | nicipalities and the Commission will clair, "that isit't. whay, I read in the mission's annual report carefully he : bear unhesitating testimony to the newsma: 5k would have known that this reckless I spapers. Iice i 4 h § faet that this Government has not "We've been pressing the button 0n |{v the cg without foundation. Actual-- | sought to bring the Hydro und this thing for yvears--to get action," ly the contract amount of power to be | taking within the realm of fl'er- said Mr. Henry. & * tfz_tken. and paid for by the Commis-- cOntrovers -- AnRErOl of political "You'y o 4 sion, in its fiscal 1930, was troversy or control. You've been pressing the wrong 5 Ag »4 , was about "I am, of cou t Button.. Lhnats sure." retorted the Lib-- 150,000 horsepower for eleven monthS, | ins charge has rse, not unaware that ] en rw epyr ic mroy spr ho 's Cnp s bee s €. € nn}lf{dm{;&"r-'m ;;]':'d anl:»;?x amat _ I;' "Po illustrate the manner in which | DCCessarily close relationships between was absolutely fair fo,.' ~1'1 the O,): the member uses some correct figures, the Government and'the Commission position might say, he contended and but in a setting that gives a wholly | Make . it comparatively easy for C Oppcsition i uld do wen to Hins false impression, I may cite his state-- | Plausible misrepresentations to be twice before votin woell to think | ment with regard to the whole Hydro made that perhaps will mislead in this g against it. undertaking: that its output in 1930 | regard those who are unfamiliar with Premier Reads Statement, & was 'one--half its capacity.' This re-- | the established relationships, under The Prime Minister read the fol-- sult he arrives at by comparing atc-- || statutory enactments, of the Govern-- lowing statement: § tual output with theoretical possibili-- || ment and the Commission. The Gov-- "On Tuesday. the member for | Mes. assuming all capacity could be | ernment, of course, has financed & | Northeas; Wellington (Dr. McQui>-- fully utilized every minute of the 'larg'e part of the Hydro work and con | ban) made a series of statements so | C2Y and year, but he does not clearly || q iy has o ausug is Baezas. a seribe . of SHACONENLE _ f Sate the bans and meaning of such || quently has responsibility to the | Injurious to the weifare of the peo-- e «ho Hapie ne SE eople respect the fi ial | ple of the Province of Ontario that computations as he makes. The 1804 'p "p ;',sp\,c 131 h 5t 156 polmigs lthfl' shoula" reseive -- prompt mi | of the matter is that an output of t:?u}lcm'c soundness of_u_the policies | sweepimng denial. t 'anywhqre from 35 to 50 per cent. of ';'Lusur:d by the Commission, but be-- | "Every one knows that the hydro-- 't.hcoret.xcal continuous capacity is re-- | yend the discharging this responsibil~ ! electric' undertaking _ of _ Ontario | SMtded universally by electrical under-- | ity. it has not gone. As I have stated | mumicipalities has been founded upon |\ takings as an excellent result, even in . | before, the Government, I believe,. P confidence. and I can conceive ol | years of normal business activity, and , | has confidence not only in the ability nothinge more mischievous than mak-- 'the Commission's percentage wWas| and experienced judgment of the ing public mi:'re'pmsom'ativé State-- |about 55 per cent. for the Niagara| | Commission and its staff, but also in ments. ostensibly supportecd by statis-- | system. !thoir thoroughgoing integrity. |__ _ tics, after a mannor and under cir--|| In Other Provinces. ' :ilxi;lrfz?bx?;ltt tiflat,cggcef?gpgs r;folé&%a; cumstancses whic 5 o say the| I rierence -- 1sS 20. folst ho disturbing Lo ";r:'fn:-"'t-onfl; "For the years 1927 and 1920, for | ioi miow, 2 reprehensible than an donse. $ eA examgle. the hxsfzhtt;;st ;{earll.\,r figure at}| lunwarrantnd attack made upon the, . "If the mem! or Northeas _ | | tain~d in any of the five Provinces of | | ficor of this House such as was made | douhts regarding the policies pursued katchewan, Alberta and British Col-- \ton. and which, in view of the cireums« ; | ty the Commission and apnrO\'od p,| umbia was only 428 per cent. of |stances under which the attack was| | this Government, and if, moreover | -- theoretical capacity, as the member for | made, receives prominence throughout.| he had made a feal attempt, by ret. || Morthesth Wellington computesit; the |the length and breadth of the land, erence to authentic data, to verity his | lowest was 17.6 per cent. Neverthe-- l "I believe that the people of .the' doubts, then this Government would | less, he presents his statement as an || PTOVINCC of ontario d oo oonity. have been the last to say that he was | alleged support to his unfounded con-- | the fact that it would be a calamity, unjustified in attempting to hav e | tention that the Commission is neg-- | not only for the Province, but for the matters rectified The faa"t of the| lecting to utilize available capacity in || country at large, if statements like matter is however. that th\e m"mbm'f Ontario in order to purchase power. those made by the member should has prot .attcmpted' to find out -mdl , *CB is neither my Gesire nor inten-- || receive credence and be allowed to present the real facts 'but has ;m-! tion to impute personal motives as to || impair confidence in the Hydro under-- ploved statistics in a manuner serious-- | why such misrepresentation as the (| taking. If I am any judge of the Iv to misrepresent the Comxfiission"«\ foregoing should be m:&de. but I sub-- | special concern expressed by Sir Adam work. Consequently, I wish to make | n that the three visits which the | Beck--and, after years of contact with it unmistakably clear that my pefer_ | membef announces he paid to Niagara | him, I believe that I am--I should say ences to his statements in this House | and Queenston would never qualify |that his repeated warning against are not a rejection of ('omt"uw'i:"c him--nor anyone else, for that mat-- | having confidence disturbed between criticism--which has nlot be('nt *"\'"\n ter--to speak with knowledge and the co--operating municipalities them-- ----but. rather, a protest agzainst gl;1;fi- authority upon the complex subject |selves, and between them and the 4 l'opr?s;r'ntnti}):'l harmfui kto'; 2!"("1t on respecting whiqh he so readily offers Comrplssmn. and its relatxopshlp to * | terprise of the people of Ontario. and detailed statistics. § . the Government, was a Warning given ) which can have had no otlfi' c"')'ie'-L "Evidently he had serious misgly-- because Sir Adam well knew th_at if ) than to secure political ari\'%i*t'»:-b ©~ . ings with regard to some of his sta-- | this confidence could be basically P e e l o e t tistics when in the course of his shaken, it would only be a matter of -- Data Declared Misleading. speech he challenges that the files time until ;ho _\york of the co--operat-- 1 "At the cutset, I have no hesita-- might be produced in an 'attempt to | ing mqmmpaht]es w{vould largely, if tion in affirming that the member has disprove' his statements, clearly im-- not entirely, be destroyed. presented daia which--not only with | | Piving that it was nol the files or | Boundary Waters Treaty Cited. revard to some of the important fig. . Other true record of facts and Cir-- "Being somewhat familiar with the \ ures themselves, but also with respect ; CUMEanCE® that he consulted, DUt || pircumstances, there is one matter to ' to the setting that has been given rather some unnamed person With || wpion T might here refer, and use it i them--encourage plausible, but never-- : whom he conversed. | to illustrate the gross inaccuracies of theless, more erroncous impressions : Statement Challenged. the member's representations, and that to, be created. "When the member. for example, is the question of water diversion aff |.. 'For example, the member, to make represented in his speech that the | Niagara under the Boundary Waters _| it appear that the Commission did not Abitibi development involved a power Treaty. It is true that under tr;e | |need to purchase power to meet the s § . . | treaty Canada is allottec 36,000 cub% \ needs of the Niagara system, defi-- S!t© equal in potential strength and | | feet of water per secona, but out 0 Initely stated that, in 1930, exclusive power to the Niagara system, where, | this amount various apportionments ' of Gatineau power, 'we have 920.000 I ask. is supporting authority for such| | are made, leaving about 24,500 cubic | horsepower to meet demands of 867.-- a representation? Is it not the equiy-- -- | feet 0;."'1at§lr pggfi&?ofiggeugg; 63 hors rer.' $ inge ni« [ | alent of saying that ths Abitibi de--| | age W ich the mmiss . ,~§?~,gu_,£ rot;pox;xoix"er 1i?ld.pr§;g§fl$'{mg;: velopment with its 330,000 installed | : the production of its power. Tha,tte}s; 8 and so on, he says: 'All these fivures' horsepewer--largely intermittert -- in to say, nearly one--third of t%le vts:athr! R are faken from the annual bcpo?t o'f character--is of equal power magni-- | | is not available for Hydro'}l?e'tblxlvm ; ' the Commission for 1930, the 1 tn<t' tude to the Niagara system with its| | member wholly ignores this fact, C M fesar y y 0, the latest generating capacity at Niagara of | nullifies one of his principal conten-- $ report available,' but nevertheless the g30 000 horsepower? 5 | | tions. m('mple_r 0fo}x1'i Ng;'th'e;astlr \glellmgton;m "It is not my purpose at this time | | "When the member pointed out| f en o s sc 67,963 horse-- io go into details involving such ques--| | that the Ontario power development '\ power, has neglected to include the tions as those of loads, load com-- and the Toronto power develcpment 1 peak load of 219,000 horsepower from pinations and distributions cthe ecgq. | | were at times operated at less than '| the %atmeafu por\l\'er plantfs.h'l"ne cor-- nomitalA use of Ontario's * share . of capacity, he stategedwhattiwa;l ?;I:J --| rect figure for the sum of the capaci-- i ty @8 C 8 they are not operated continuous '|\ ties, exclusive of Gatineau powe;;. is \\e}tex under_ ns Bounda'xy' Wgt,'crs | full capacity. but he did not offer the' " "!g73.890 horsepower, instead of his TCy allotment and 'Other 8 tatistics. | | yery pertinent and true explanation, ©\g20.000; and the correct figure for the These involve considerations far too namely, it would require about 42,000 'éisum of the peaks of the plants or de. complex for any other than experts | cubic feet per second. The water is M se I Moseses norsepower, asld "Rea M Cl P Ainimmempanties Mll Bobrere w i under the treaty to| Al schown on pages 10 and 11 of, the "When some 700 -- municipalities| | pperate all the plants continuously | qéCo}nmission's annual report. That is who are the owners of their Hydro| || at capacity, and so the Commission , "3' the member bases his whole arcument enterprise and in constant touch with | || wisely operates at greatest capacity '| on false figures, purporting to ?rllow a realities in Hydro matters are nOt || the Queenston--Chippawa plant, which | surpius of capécity at Niagara over complaining of the Commission's ac-- || is the most efpcient: at lesse_r capaB; | beak load of 52,000 horse ower tions on their behalf, why, I ask,} || ity, the Ontario Power plant; and & 'p.?h,, eas the correct,,fi f P i should the member feel called upon ,_---------------------"----"_"__ _ 'go;nr nission's annual grl:zx;srt r%r: t'gg to voice publicly his unfounded sus-- basis of calculation show a shortage | MSOY*: unless, indeed, it be fof DBC-- of capacity, but for the Gatineau con-- litical purposes: tract, amounting to 213,073 horse-- bower below the peak loads on plants. J